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Started by Annwyn, January 15, 2009, 11:27:13 AM

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Annwyn

I was asking this because this morning my brain got working on something besides the college classes I'm taking.
I seem to have been shot to center stage on places on the transwomen community on myspace.  I don't know how it happened because I'm not even listed as transsexual on my profile, but I'm still getting adds and end up supporting all kinds of women right around my age group who aren't doing so hot in their transition or are doing WONDERFULLY or aren't even transitioning at all.  Somehow they all popped out at me.


So, I'm being exposed to more and more types of transitioning, and it's pretty interesting.  I figured I'd just start a thread with a few types I'd noticed and let anyone else add onto it.

The pronouns reflect the actions/awareness of the individual AT THAT POINT IN TIME.  Don't bash me on it.



The, "do it or die" type.

This is the type that has either known his/her entire life and pushed it down, or ignored the signs and finally got gutsy enough to make the connection.  In both scenarios, the strength of the drive to express oneself and not live a lie anymore becomes so overwhelmingly strong that immediate and deliberating action is required.

The resulting start of this usually isn't too hot.  No preperation, no knowledge, and doubtful to have any support either, he/she jumps right into transition full time and gun-ho!  That dude who looks like he'd be better in a rugby match that teeny beety boppy dress he's wearing that shows the fact all too well?  Yeah.  Or that little bitty girl with noodle arms in sports shorts and a muscle shirt?  Yup, even the most uneducated in society get it.

Give a few years of emotional hell from poor adjustment as he/she starts this radical journey, to the time when that insane drive to reach a goal pays off.

Then you have someone so passable that she/he will be at a party for transsexuals and get called a biowoman/male by someone crediting herself as a know-it-all for transsexuals!  A strong man or a woman, hardened by the trial of transition and the pain it brought along, ready to apply that strength in every possible way to a new life.
Often proud to be a man or woman with, "Harry Benjamin Syndrome," and fights for transsexual rights pretty hard.


You can't tell the difference

Claire(Gracie Faise) is a great example of this one.  Someone who's known the situation for his/her entire life and met the challenge with vigor.

"NO mommy I am NOT wearing that eewy pink dress, give me some jeans!"  "Hey pops this is Sandra, I'm staying over at her place and we're gonna do our nails."

For these individuals, transition is merely the seizing of an opportune moment.   It's a coming of age thing.
By the time they finally get on corrective hormone therapy and officially start they're transition under the care of a therapist, you wouldn't know.
They've already done as much as they can up to this point, and a few subtle changes in face or body aren't going to live up to a lifetime of skills learned as being practically fulltime gives.  The process goes smoothly as can be because the only thing different about their lives is they're taking a couple pills now.

Often these men/women don't even recognize that they ever used to be any sex other than their respective gender.  Why would they?  It's not like there's anyone to call them on it either because they started putting in the hard work right from the beginning.



Kinda.  Sorta.  Maybe.

I've only encountered one FtM like this so I will basically disregard him.  He IS on these forum though:D  The rest are women.

This is the guy who dips his foot in slowly and takes it out swiftly.  He's too scared to jump in, so he borders on the edge.  You never know who you'll meet on the edge of transition.  Crossdressers, ->-bleeped-<- admirers, none of them are a bad thing but for someone who's unsure if he's got the guts or not to transition, well it's DISTRACTING.
He then begins these activities, cross dressing now and then to starting a full fledge myspace page.  The page usually has the attitude of, "Hi my name is -insert long name here- (Alexandria, Cleopatra, Ferguliscious, etc).  I'm a cross dresser."

Eventually after years of doing this either he or someone else talks some sense into her.  A therapist, hormones for a few months, and then decisive and intelligent action.  She's IT.  After a few years of dealing with men's wants and desires, she knows how to look at a man and she knows how to move her body.  She knows the right sounds to make.  At the same time she's got years of being a successful businessmen or some other specialty to make her a dizzying mix of professionalism and sensuality.
Not afraid to admit she used to be a dude.  If she's gonna be with someone they had batter accept her and her past entirely, and she ends up the trophy wife of some really hot man or woman with a long line of GG women glaring at her the entire way out of jealousy.

OR, he gets so lost up in this halfway point that well, he/she becomes the next top-awarded ->-bleeped-<- porn star, take Wendy Williams for example.  Cocaine and boob implants and a nice bloated belly revealing last night's late trip out to Mcdonalds to CURE THE MUNCHIES.  Yuppers.


This, then that, then whatever.

This is the man that's got military service under his belt or the woman who's been next to America's Top Model.  It's because whatever these people do, they do it well.  Awareness of the gender identity might have been apparent for a short time or a long time.  Either way until he/she is fully convinced that transition is the right thing and then if it's the right time to transition, he/she is going to continue being darn'd good model of the sex his/her genitals represent.  This man/woman thinks in depth about if transition is nessecary for happiness, if gender is really such an important thing, and in general that if he/she keeps working hard then there's some happiness to be found outside of transition.  I mean, why leave all that hard work behind?
When he/she eventually does come to that conclusion, the identity which he/she has been building on for his/her entire life is in peril.  Clinging to that, sometimes there's a relapse and progress is lost.  Then again, if transsexual could pull of not transitioning, it's these types.
After long deliberation and lots of hair pulling and frustration, it finally happens.  Hormones.  Just because this has happened doesn't mean he/she can't wig out and go back to stage one again, and it often happens.
For those who stay though, they keep on in their lives as if nothing is different.  People start to notice though. 
"Hey bob, your skin is looking absolutely vibrant today!  What's the secret?"  "Woah Jodi, you're so full of energy and you're getting your job done so much better than anyone else, wow."
Eventually it goes from subtle to obvious.
"Bob, your hair is getting long and you're changing your voice and you've lost a lot of weight, spill"  "You used to be SUCH a star and now you're acting like a lesbian who's bossy and aggressive and like you'd rather be hanging out with my husband than me, your own best friend.  honey, what is going on?"
Eventually it goes from obvious to flaming obvious.
"Is that NAIL POLISH?"  "Um Jodi, why do you have a shadow on your face and why are you wearing slacks?"

Soon after the pressure to transition isn't coming from inside but from outside/  She/he has waited as long as possible and simply can't hold off any longer, I mean boobs or a beard or whatever, everyone knows even if they're no informed and new acquaintances are shocked when they find out that no, that wasn't a woman they were speaking to, that's just Bob the weird guy or Jodi or whatever the case may be.  There isn't a choice anymore, it's got to happen.

So, after putting it off for as long as possible, Bob or Jodi either announce something like this, "Hey guize!  It's not Jodi anymore.  It's Joe.  Hence the Facial hair."
OR
New city, new life, cut contacts and just do it.

I honestly thing Kate is a great example of this, and that this is the one that represents me the most as well.  Though, she ended up doing the just 'tell all' thing where as I just ran away and started a new life.

Do YOU have any types to share?

And, which type are you most like?
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mina.magpie

I'd add my group:

The "Analyse-it-to-death,-research-the-crap-out-of-it-then-bugger-ahead-blindly-anyway" type

This type takes a while to make any kind of decision, even the really important ones. They often suffer from analysis-paralysis, where their choice circuits literally short-circuit because they've researched too many different alternatives and can't decide which is best. They feel safe having lots of information at their disposal, but tend to freak out at the first sign of pressure, throw all the information they've accumulated away and start over. They like to do things by the book and according to the rules, but if things don't go their way, at some point they just say "aw f**k it", squeeze their eyes tightly shut and forge ahead with self-med or fulltime or getting the guts to go to a therapist or whatever. Takes these people a while to realise that the universe thinks all your plans and schedules and stuff are a big fat joke.

Mina.

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Jeatyn

I think I'd have to go with "can't tell the difference" for my type

It's just my body that needs work, my brain has always been in boy mode
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Julie Marie

Mine was more like: I-trust-you-and-know-you'll-do-the-right-thing-for-me-because-you-love-me.

Loosely translated that means you're afraid you'll lose everything so you go to someone you trust to help you.

The problem with that is no one has your best interest in mind more than you. In fact everyone has their own best interest in mind so this brand of transitioning can blow up in your face.

And that's what happened. The trusted person was my then wife. She told my kids her version, when she was mad at me. The version did not paint me in a good light.

Then she told members of my family and they told two friends and on and on. Before I knew it the word was out and it was her version that was out there. All the while I was still thinking my "secret" was safe with her.

But in the end I did transition but not until after I found myself alone and figured, "What the heck. Everyone's gone so I have nothing to lose now."

My advice: try another brand. This one sucks!
When you judge others, you do not define them, you define yourself.
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Dennis

I dunno, a little of 'this then that' and a little of 'you can't tell'.

Led life fine as an out lesbian, then when I realized that didn't address all issues, I researched, prepared, and did the social transition after 8 months on T and chest surgery. It was fairly non-eventful (despite a fair bit of agonizing on my part during the preparing stages).

Dennis
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Alyssa M.

Quote from: mina.m->-bleeped-<-ie link=topic=53575.msg332777#msg332777 date=1232043946
I'd add my group:

The "Analyse-it-to-death,-research-the-crap-out-of-it-then-bugger-ahead-blindly-anyway" type

This type takes a while to make any kind of decision, even the really important ones. They often suffer from analysis-paralysis, where their choice circuits literally short-circuit because they've researched too many different alternatives and can't decide which is best. They feel safe having lots of information at their disposal, but tend to freak out at the first sign of pressure, throw all the information they've accumulated away and start over. They like to do things by the book and according to the rules, but if things don't go their way, at some point they just say "aw f**k it", squeeze their eyes tightly shut and forge ahead with self-med or fulltime or getting the guts to go to a therapist or whatever. Takes these people a while to realise that the universe thinks all your plans and schedules and stuff are a big fat joke.

Mina.

Perhaps we can start a club -- the Illegitimate Daughters of Hamlet. :-\

Oh, well, it's nice to know I'm not alone.

~Alyssa
All changes, even the most longed for, have their melancholy; for what we leave behind us is a part of ourselves; we must die to one life before we can enter another.

   - Anatole France
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Janet_Girl

Quote from: Alyssa M. on January 15, 2009, 04:35:03 PM
Quote from: mina.m->-bleeped-<-ie link=topic=53575.msg332777#msg332777 date=1232043946
I'd add my group:

The "Analyse-it-to-death,-research-the-crap-out-of-it-then-bugger-ahead-blindly-anyway" type

This type takes a while to make any kind of decision, even the really important ones. They often suffer from analysis-paralysis, where their choice circuits literally short-circuit because they've researched too many different alternatives and can't decide which is best. They feel safe having lots of information at their disposal, but tend to freak out at the first sign of pressure, throw all the information they've accumulated away and start over. They like to do things by the book and according to the rules, but if things don't go their way, at some point they just say "aw f**k it", squeeze their eyes tightly shut and forge ahead with self-med or fulltime or getting the guts to go to a therapist or whatever. Takes these people a while to realise that the universe thinks all your plans and schedules and stuff are a big fat joke.

Mina.

Perhaps we can start a club -- the Illegitimate Daughters of Hamlet. :-\

Oh, well, it's nice to know I'm not alone.

~Alyssa

That would make three of us, and I think Chrissty will be the forth.  Hey we could play Bridge.  I spent the better part of the last 20 Plus years, researching.  And then' Damn the torpedos, Full speed ahead".

Janet

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gothique11

*shrugs* I don't know what type/brand I'd fall under, if any. I just did things my own way and I rarely, rarely have seen anyone do it like me. Everything just came naturally.

I guess I had a lot of guts, 'cause I started going out before HRT and was full-time by the time I started HRT (and, yeah, I was sneaky and lied to a doctor that I needed my hrt refills, and previous to that I got a hold of some via other methods, or birth control).

I was very punk with a F-U attitude to the world and I didn't care what others thought. I went into the malls, shopped right away for womens clothing at busy malls, used the womens washroom, etc. I got a job, I did all of that.

I've always done my own thing. I've always played with limits and some how got the joy out of making people wondering WTF was wrong with me.

During my transition I'd have to say I went through several phases, to go along with my punk-like attitude. I often colored my hair. I'd sometimes wear dresses, or other times go out all dyke. I had long hair -- then I shaved the back of it (to make a chelsa cut -- and, at the time, I never heard of a mtf cutting her long hair... most people flipped!)  I also went out and did a drag king show just to prove I can do anything a natal woman can do.

Since my surgery, I've settled a bit. Maybe it's because of that, and maybe 'cause I've just turned 30 and thinking about other things.

The weird thing, as much as I had other transwomen get mad at me doing things my way, being all crazy like, I also some how inspired others.

All of a sudden, other mtf started doing drag king shows -- sporting short hair cuts -- and having a lot of confidence that wasn't there.

I would say I did it all with a lot of confidence. But at the same time, I was scared out of my wits. I'm not always confident. I'm not perfect. But in pushing my limits I pushed my confidence. I'm still amazed that I some how made it through everything. That I broke a lot of new ground, and inspired others (or others hated me).

I'm not where near perfect, and I don't really recommend my punk-f-u-style of transitioning, it's not for everyone and with putting yourself out there, you are very vulnerable. Extremely vulnerable, actually. But, for me, putting myself out there, being the crazy one, was probably the best way I could have done it for myself. It's a way that I don't think most people should do, although.

I'm glad that I've settled a bit, although. I say that with purple hair at the moment. LOL But, I have changed and grown a lot since I started.

--natalie

PS  Don't shave your head like me. LOL I swear I was the only woman to march into Montreal for SRS with a shaved head. I am now growing my hair out, although I got it trimmed a month ago to make it more even. It's still short, but growing fast. LOL My camera was stolen, other wise I'd take a picture. :P




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Annwyn

Quote from: Julie Marie on January 15, 2009, 01:18:56 PM
Mine was more like: I-trust-you-and-know-you'll-do-the-right-thing-for-me-because-you-love-me.

Loosely translated that means you're afraid you'll lose everything so you go to someone you trust to help you.

The problem with that is no one has your best interest in mind more than you. In fact everyone has their own best interest in mind so this brand of transitioning can blow up in your face.

And that's what happened. The trusted person was my then wife. She told my kids her version, when she was mad at me. The version did not paint me in a good light.

Then she told members of my family and they told two friends and on and on. Before I knew it the word was out and it was her version that was out there. All the while I was still thinking my "secret" was safe with her.

But in the end I did transition but not until after I found myself alone and figured, "What the heck. Everyone's gone so I have nothing to lose now."

My advice: try another brand. This one sucks!


This has nothing to do with a brand of transition.

THIS THREAD IS NO AN AUTOBIOGRAPHY FOR PEOPLE.

Please write everything from a third person, analytical perspective when describing a common trend of transitioning you've seen regularly.

This thread was created as a reference source, not a, "boohoo" vent or, "i'm so special and unique" thread.
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Alyssa M.

Toni,

Some advice:

- Every thread on every forum on the Internet suffers from thread drift (except those with no replies).
- Every post on every thread is about how unique and special the poster is.
- About half of all posts are about how horrible the poster has it in life.
- People often respond to thread titles, not OP's -- especially when the OP is that long.

Be happy that people are replying to your thread. It means that somebody got something out of it.

Cheers,

~Alyssa

--

Natalie, thanks -- it's great to come across people who break the mold. The more diversity you see around you, the easier it is to choose your own path.
All changes, even the most longed for, have their melancholy; for what we leave behind us is a part of ourselves; we must die to one life before we can enter another.

   - Anatole France
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sneakersjay

How about the know-it-alls, the ones who have analyzed it to death, and helpe everyone but themselves?  And then whine about how they couldn't possibly transition, it's too hard, they'll lose everything, yada yad yada and basically sit, paralyzed, on the fence and do nothing but bemoan their fate?  (this is NOT the people who have a legitimate (financial, medical, etc) reason for having to postpone -- these people COULD overcome their obstacles if they chose to, but seem more content in the Poor Me role.


And as a do-or-die type, I just did it, no wallowing for years.  It's done; limbo land is pretty much over after 9 months (6 months on T).


Jay


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krisalyx

yep the analize-it-to death do-a-ton -of -research- & -bugger-it-all-and -just do-it-anyway method (raises hand) that's what i did for good or ill,
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mina.magpie

Quote from: krisalyx on January 16, 2009, 06:58:54 AM
yep the analize-it-to death do-a-ton -of -research- & -bugger-it-all-and -just do-it-anyway method (raises hand) that's what i did for good or ill,

LOL. There seem to be quite a few of us floating around her.

Mina.
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Annwyn

I was the know-it-all for a long time.  I was all over these forums claiming to be a MtF but bulging with muscles and a proud Marine to boot.

Now it's the other way around:-p

I'm all soft and fem and a woman but I'm still on the forum.bodybuilding.com giving expert advice to people on there on how to get HUGE and RIPPED and GINORMOUS when I'm most definitely not touching a barbell again in my life:D
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fae_reborn

Quote from: mina.m->-bleeped-<-ie link=topic=53575.msg333176#msg333176 date=1232121354
Quote from: krisalyx on January 16, 2009, 06:58:54 AM
yep the analize-it-to death do-a-ton -of -research- & -bugger-it-all-and -just do-it-anyway method (raises hand) that's what i did for good or ill,

LOL. There seem to be quite a few of us floating around her.

Mina.

Add another to the party, that's as close to how mine went too.  Researched for two years and then "OK, let's go!"  ;D
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Mr. Fox

I'd say it's looking like I'm going to have the punk-f-u style of transition.  I'm not waiting until HRT (I'd be waiting for a year and a half at least), and I'm not bothering to trade one set of stereotypes for another (yeah women's clothes!).  Really, there can't be much of another brand of transition for me, or else I'd be waiting on my parents' approval or turning 18, which are both quite far off, the former perhaps will never happen.
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