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Why are women's bodies more celebrated than men's?

Started by Nero, January 24, 2009, 03:54:29 PM

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Rachael

Quote from: tekla on January 26, 2009, 09:11:44 AM
Ted Nugent?  The Nuge man, he's all about the hunting stuff.  Performs in camo and all that. 

But sure, I love that tough girl deal, and Joan Jett and others pull it off well, and Amy Lee is fantastic, but I like Shelia E. too, all that beauty and she plays like a goddess.
Amy lee doesnt do the tough girl act, her music is honest and vulnerable... especially considering her history... Evanesence's latest album has so much feeling and emotion in... its true music as it was meant to be. From the soul
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Ell

i agree (with Starbuck?)

women do look at guys, and are judging them and rating them, qualifiying and disqualifying them, *all* the time.

guys get objectified or worse (ignored) by women wherever they go.
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deviousxen

Quote from: Starbuck on January 26, 2009, 11:30:06 AM
Quote from: tekla on January 26, 2009, 09:11:44 AM
Ted Nugent?  The Nuge man, he's all about the hunting stuff.  Performs in camo and all that. 

But sure, I love that tough girl deal, and Joan Jett and others pull it off well, and Amy Lee is fantastic, but I like Shelia E. too, all that beauty and she plays like a goddess.
Amy lee doesnt do the tough girl act, her music is honest and vulnerable... especially considering her history... Evanesence's latest album has so much feeling and emotion in... its true music as it was meant to be. From the soul

Her stuffs ok. I kind of prefer Amanda Palmer though. She's hilarious and beautiful. I love how she combines pretty vocals of clarity with a jaded tired vocals... They are tragic and beautiful...
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Julie Marie

Quote from: CindyJames on January 25, 2009, 02:16:21 AM
I think T makes people more aggressive and desire to be dominant.

Cindy J

You need only to look at that show on TV called Human Wrecking Balls where two burly men destroy things without tools.  It's pretty funny watching these guys!  And they are so proud of themselves when they have destroyed something with only their hands, feet and bodies.  :P

Julie
When you judge others, you do not define them, you define yourself.
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Nicole

Quote from: Starbuck on January 26, 2009, 07:53:48 AM
I have to disagree.... The male body has its own beauty... just as a classical romance would compare to a impressionist scene... Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and so far, men are the holders ;)

I was always told that beauty was in the eye of the beer holder ;)
Yes! I'm single
And you'll have to be pretty f'ing amazing to change that
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Rachael

Quote from: Kara-Xen on January 26, 2009, 12:52:57 PM
Quote from: Starbuck on January 26, 2009, 11:30:06 AM
Quote from: tekla on January 26, 2009, 09:11:44 AM
Ted Nugent?  The Nuge man, he's all about the hunting stuff.  Performs in camo and all that. 

But sure, I love that tough girl deal, and Joan Jett and others pull it off well, and Amy Lee is fantastic, but I like Shelia E. too, all that beauty and she plays like a goddess.
Amy lee doesnt do the tough girl act, her music is honest and vulnerable... especially considering her history... Evanesence's latest album has so much feeling and emotion in... its true music as it was meant to be. From the soul

Her stuffs ok. I kind of prefer Amanda Palmer though. She's hilarious and beautiful. I love how she combines pretty vocals of clarity with a jaded tired vocals... They are tragic and beautiful...
not heard of her... i might have? but im not pos... Either way, my point wasnt voice, it was the meaning, Amungst her fans, its common knowlage that during the period of the 'fallen' album, she was  and before then, sexually abused by her boyfriend, the then guitarist, and physical abuse by her manager, the woman suffered imense torture, but remained strong, and the open door is literally that... shes exposing her soul in song, and its so beautiful... i have nothing but respect for her... one of my personal heroines.
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deviousxen

Quote from: Starbuck on January 26, 2009, 09:38:30 PM
Quote from: Kara-Xen on January 26, 2009, 12:52:57 PM
Quote from: Starbuck on January 26, 2009, 11:30:06 AM
Quote from: tekla on January 26, 2009, 09:11:44 AM
Ted Nugent?  The Nuge man, he's all about the hunting stuff.  Performs in camo and all that. 

But sure, I love that tough girl deal, and Joan Jett and others pull it off well, and Amy Lee is fantastic, but I like Shelia E. too, all that beauty and she plays like a goddess.
Amy lee doesnt do the tough girl act, her music is honest and vulnerable... especially considering her history... Evanesence's latest album has so much feeling and emotion in... its true music as it was meant to be. From the soul

Her stuffs ok. I kind of prefer Amanda Palmer though. She's hilarious and beautiful. I love how she combines pretty vocals of clarity with a jaded tired vocals... They are tragic and beautiful...
not heard of her... i might have? but im not pos... Either way, my point wasnt voice, it was the meaning, Amungst her fans, its common knowlage that during the period of the 'fallen' album, she was  and before then, sexually abused by her boyfriend, the then guitarist, and physical abuse by her manager, the woman suffered imense torture, but remained strong, and the open door is literally that... shes exposing her soul in song, and its so beautiful... i have nothing but respect for her... one of my personal heroines.

So her abusive boyfriend helped her make music about her struggles because of him?!
I used to listen to Evanescence, lol.
Thats messed. And I didn't just mean voice either. :) I also love lyrics. Amanda Palmer was in the Dresden Dolls. That is where you may have heard. Good songs by her and them include Gravity, Half-Jack, Runs in the Family, Guitar Hero. Hilarious and touching songs, or just plain addictive and depressing like Half-Jack
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Rachael

No, fallen was very comercial in the gothrock scene... it was pushed out, not really anything to do with thier relationship, or the abuse she suffered at the hands of the bands manager. The later album, when both were gone from the picture is more, expresssive, without saying the words... she doesnt have to.
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deviousxen

Wow. I guess it makes sense that Fallen was more marketed than personal.
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BrendaBunnie

Quote from: Starbuck on January 26, 2009, 09:04:43 AM
tbh, nothing gives me that drooling daydreaming feeling like a really cute guy with muscle bulging in his teeshirt... that big square jaw, the stubble... its not the Mercedes Benz... but god armoured vehicles turn me on.... XD

Totally true!!  Hard to contain myself when I'm at a concert. =D If you want to meet some hot guys go to concerts!!!  Trust me, they travel in flocks there! 
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BunnyBee

Quote from: Arch on January 24, 2009, 04:15:04 PM
A lot of it is a power thing. It's mostly hetero men in power, so they get to objectify women. Everything is tied into the straight male sex drive. So a lot of this "celebration" is merely sexism, objectification.

^ this.

Quote from: Starbuck on January 26, 2009, 07:53:48 AM
The male body has its own beauty... just as a classical romance would compare to a impressionist scene... Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and so far, men are the holders ;)

^ and this.

^-^
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Shana A

Because women take better care of theirs and wear nicer clothes ;)

Z
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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