Please don't tell anyone how I live.

[tekla]

I don't consider the word homophobic at all.  I hear way too many gay men use it everyday conversation.  Half, in fact, more like 90% of what makes a word 'bad' or not is in the context in which its used.  Clearly, if no hate is intended, then none was given. 

And geographic privilege?  WTF is that?  That people in England can call Ciggerettes ->-bleeped-<-, and you just can't do that in the USA?  That's a 'privilege'?  Wow, I always thought as privilege as something much more powerful and cooler.

And sure people try to get on my case, I just don't let them.

[Jeatyn]

Great, so I'm now gong to say "i hate ->-bleeped-<-gots" in every post, and that's entirely fine?

Sure if you're talking about the food, I fail to see why you'd have such a strong hatred for them that you needed to reiterate it in every post though

[Mister]

If you were speaking in a culinary context, how else could you say it?

"I hate those little round balls of pork and seasoning that can't be named in case they cause offence because some biggoted, homophobic people in one part of the world approproated the word through lacking the intelligence to come up with something more creative." ?

The food has been around a few hundred years longer than the homophobic associations.

I think most people here are smart enough to guage the context of a conversation and know the difference... if not then a little calm, rational explanation usually clears things up. No need to be deliberately provocative.

Sorry, didn't realize asking for some equal standards = being deliberately provocative.

-Mister, who hates ->-bleeped-<-gots.
Post Merge: February 27, 2009, 12:17:15 PM

Sure if you're talking about the food, I fail to see why you'd have such a strong hatred for them that you needed to reiterate it in every post though

I'm vegan, a member of PETA and a jew.  How could I hate them more?

[Sephirah]

Sorry, didn't realize asking for some equal standards = being deliberately provocative.

It is when the entire basis is a grudge you hold, and not based on rational thought and reasoning; evidenced by the fact that you're the only person, even the only American person, who took issue with it as a deliberate attempt to prove a point... namely that you feel hard done by and want an outlet for that resentment.

[Mister]

It is when the entire basis is a grudge you hold, and not based on rational thought and reasoning; evidenced by the fact that you're the only person, even the only American person, who took issue with it as a deliberate attempt to prove a point... namely that you feel hard done by and want an outlet for that resentment.

I'm Canadian.

[Sephirah]

I'm Canadian.

Lol.

Okay, my apologies for that assumption. But the rest of my statement still stands.

[Dennis]

It's perfectly obvious by context that the word means cigarettes. We are not going to apply a North American standard of language on people from other countries. And if you North Americans suddenly feel a burning need to call cigarettes ->-bleeped-<-s and discuss pork balls in gravy, feel free, but make it clear from context.

And Leiandra's right.

Dennis

[tekla]

Mmmmmmmmmm, pork balls in gravy, heart attack time for sure.  We can say 'balls' right?  At least in the contest of like games or food, or fancy dances too I guess. 

[Jay]

Mmmmmmmmmm, pork balls in gravy, heart attack time for sure.  We can say 'balls' right?  At least in the contest of like games or food, or fancy dances too I guess. 

Yes Tekla of course we can as long as its within that context. *s->-bleeped-<-s*

Jay

[Alyssa M.]

Smoking is totally gh--

crap.

[NicholeW.]

I've seen lots of time and bandwidth wasted to make non-existent points that never even approach what the real subtext of the argument is. This last few bits is one of them.

Ya know though, sometimes the answer isn't becoming more abrasive and petty until no one can resist the fact that one is both abrasive and petty.

A better way might be to show that there are other aspects to one's self than just the petty and abrasive. Perhaps, if the chosen way doesn't work as well as one would like then they might actually be able to choose another way that would work everso much better.

Someone who is averse to the feeling of sandpaper on their skin might do well to remove the sandpaper from their skin. Just a thought.

Nichole

[Sophie90]

Context context context!


If you're talking about ->-bleeped-<-s, as in cigarettes, it's reasonable to call them ->-bleeped-<-s. (That's what they're CALLED.)

If you're talking about ->-bleeped-<-s as in homosexuals, it's unreasonable to call them ->-bleeped-<-s. (Derogatory.)



I really fail to see what the issue is?

[Mister]

I've seen lots of time and bandwidth wasted to make non-existent points that never even approach what the real subtext of the argument is. This last few bits is one of them.

welcome to the internet.

[NicholeW.]

welcome to the internet.

Why thank you, Mister. I think that may be the most congenial post I've yet seen of your 909!

Nichole

[Lutin]

Context context context!

A lot of language, English, Spanish, French and otherwise, rely on context to define meanings (though English is especially good for that. That's the whole "he wound up the wound in a bandage" thing where the context provides the meaning).

And '->-bleeped-<-got' has soooooooooooooooooo many meanings. One of our orchestra conductors at school used to go around the sections making sure everyone was tuned, and we had the horny boys (French horns, who were all guys), the bones (trombones), saxomophones, and ->-bleeped-<-gots, who were the bassoons (also spelt ->-bleeped-<-ott). Obviously he was playing on the other, derogatory meaning of ->-bleeped-<-got, but his use of it was nevertheless legitimate. And highly amusing.

*Anyway*, the real issue *I* find is hairbrushes. No matter how (un)sophisticated one's bedroom organisation, they always manage to go missing between brushes. Brush your hair one morning, the next morning, only 24 hours later, you have to tear your room apart to find the demmed thing again. Every morning. Clothes stay where they are, coffee mugs don't don't grow legs and walk off (though, admittedly, some of them come pretty close... ), but *hairbrushes*...!

[Mister]

Why thank you, Mister. I think that may be the most congenial post I've yet seen of your 909!

Nichole

Then clearly you have read the vast minority.

[michael]

welll i waaaas gonna chat about house habits if it's still ok...the forum i'm on most of the time, i'm very outnumbered by brits and so i didn't even notice what was going on! lol! in fact i think someone there has "tea solves everything" as thier sig, but that's probably common there, huh blueflare?

i do most of the things you do and i'm not a student anymore. i do live alone though.  i had a partner for a few years and kept having to fold dishtowels in special ways and learn where different kitchen gadgets go and never just said "oh hey honey, i think i'm just gonna have PB&J for dinner, more time to paint and draw and you-know-what..."

she was sweet and great, i'm not complaining...but if i ever partner up again they'll just have to get used to me eating dry cereal and dressing in whatever clothes are on the back of the chair.

[iminadaze]

*Anyway*, the real issue *I* find is hairbrushes. No matter how (un)sophisticated one's bedroom organisation, they always manage to go missing between brushes. Brush your hair one morning, the next morning, only 24 hours later, you have to tear your room apart to find the demmed thing again. Every morning. Clothes stay where they are, coffee mugs don't don't grow legs and walk off (though, admittedly, some of them come pretty close... ), but *hairbrushes*...!

Lol... ...So true, I don't even make it til the next morning, in fact I got to go look for my brush now
cuz you got me thinking about it 


I live in the US but I watch alot of UK shows so I am used to thier words.

I have never had ->-bleeped-<-gots before, but I think they sound yummy! 

[Lutin]

I live in the US but I watch alot of UK shows so I am used to thier words.

I live in Oz and have grown up on Aussie/British TV. I had a Canadian friend in high school and she was horrified the first time she heard us throwing around "bugger" -

"Gah, up all night, I'm buggered!"
"I've got five hours of homework tonight." -"Oh, bugger that!"
"The poor bugger left his bassoon at the bus stop." (That did actually happen).
"Bugger, missed the last bus. Better not miss the next one, that'd be a real bugger."
"Yay! Got bugger all homework tonight!" -"Oh, bugger off, mate, I've got heaps!"

Seriously, it took us *ages* to figure out why she always went funny when we said it, and her ages to figure out what we were actually saying, and that we weren't being crude. Nothing like social and cultural differences within the same language to bugger up a situation.


(And I'm not just trying to get the word 'bugger' in there as many times as I can for crude comic value, I am actually making a point, and we do actually talk like that . Particularly when we can't find our hairbrushes in the morning - "Oh, bugger bugger bugger bugger buggeration AH! That's where it was!" A chant I've come to know, love, and mutter on pretty much a daily basis... ).

"tea solves everything"

Tea solves everything, and that which it doesn't solve, chocolate (and/or coffee) and hugs do.



Will

[Alyssa M.]

I live in Oz

We might be neighbors! When I moved here, everything seemed to be so much more colorful than where I grew up. Also, one time I saw a rainbow, and it was in the West, not the East. Rainbows are supposed to be in the East, but not here. So clearly I must be somewhere over the rainbow.

~Alyssa