Racism, Sexism, Transism, and Privilege

[Shana A]

Racism, Sexism, Transism, and Privilege
by: ZoeB
Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 01:17:42 AM EST

http://pamshouseblend.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=9773

(It's hard to wrap your mind around this referenced comment. What's enraging is that we have to deal with people in our own community whose biases are hanging out there for all to see, and seem impervious to change in any way, since they don't see anything wrong with their worldview. - promoted by Pam Spaulding)

Cross-posted from AEBrain

At Qweerty one of a breed that's all too common. When Feminists talk about the Patriarchy, and the arrogance of male privilege, this is what they mean.:

    At the risk of sounding controversial, I visit Queerty because I am a gay white male. I have no interest in 'women issues'.

    While I'm not opposed to sporadic and infrequent attention to lesbians, I do not want this blog devoting any more time to their cause....Simply because I am gay does not mean I care about lesbians, bisexuals or transgender persons. I don't even know why some people try and group us together as one cause - GLBT - because we are not. I can see some purpose to grouping G + L and even Bs together, but not Ts.

[imaz]

That guy is beyond belief! Still haven't sussed whether he's for real or just trolling, hopefully it's the latter.

[mina.magpie]

I'd bet for real. Unfortunately this is an attitude I've encountered a couple of times. Seems we always find a smaller group to blame our woes on and end up just dividing ourselves and making it easier for the bigots out there to pick us off. Gay people blame Trans-anything, Transsexual blames Transgender, Transgender blames Transsexual.

We don't deserve rights if we're not willing to ensure them for everybody.

Mina.

Post Merge: March 10, 2009, 11:25:07 AM
Hmmm. Speaks volumes when he says "I'm a commercial lawyer and don't believe in pro-bono work"

I take it then, that justice and equality are only for the rich.

I watched a documentary on History channel this evening about Vlad the Impaler. He once invited all the homeless and the sick and the disabled of his city to his castle for a feast. When they were all in the hall, he locked the doors and burned the room, solving the problem of poverty in his city overnight. I wonder how many people on this planet would genuinely be horrified at such an act, and how many would secretly think it a good idea.

Humanity sucks.

Mina.

[Mister]

He's not casting blame on FTMs, MTFs, etc, he's talking about on CDs.  He's talking about the LGBT community being judged by it's most visible (and usually the most flamboyant, least passable) members. 

This is the same thing that every FTM who is pissed off at Thomas Beatie is saying-  Stop associating the majority with the minority.

[imaz]

He's not casting blame on FTMs, MTFs, etc, he's talking about on CDs.  He's talking about the LGBT community being judged by it's most visible (and usually the most flamboyant, least passable) members. 

This is the same thing that every FTM who is pissed off at Thomas Beatie is saying-  Stop associating the majority with the minority.

What? Did you read the link?

He's having a massive go at everyone apart from probably white, straight acting Gay males. And I forgot that's only the ones that have money!

[NicholeW.]

He's not casting blame on FTMs, MTFs, etc, he's talking about on CDs.  He's talking about the LGBT community being judged by it's most visible (and usually the most flamboyant, least passable) members. 

This is the same thing that every FTM who is pissed off at Thomas Beatie is saying-  Stop associating the majority with the minority.

Who he's talking about are "effeminate & queeny males" and "very butch women." If he's talking about CDs I'd be surprised as very often gay males and CDs never even meet each other. He's talking mostly about the G/Ls he doesn't care for. Ts are people he generally never sees.

But what if he is talking about CDs? Does the fact that they usually dress part-time rather than living their lives exclusively in one gender somehow make all of that lush BS more palatable to you?

This guy has problems, if you actually take the time to read his comment, with everyone not like him. I'm surprised you don't see that, Mister.

Nichole

[Mister]

What? Did you read the link?

He's having a massive go at everyone apart from probably white, straight acting Gay males. And I forgot that's only the ones that have money!

Where did he pick on non white people?  On lesbians?  on bisexuals?  on non-CDs?

[NicholeW.]

Where did he pick on non white people?  On lesbians?  on bisexuals?  on non-CDs?

Ya might try the tag lines:

While I'm not opposed to sporadic and infrequent attention to lesbians, I do not want this blog devoting any more time to their cause....Simply because I am gay does not mean I care about lesbians, bisexuals or transgender persons. I don't even know why some people try and group us together as one cause - GLBT - because we are not. I can see some purpose to grouping G + L and even Bs together, but not Ts.

And exactly who does one suppose he's talking about when he uses the drug-use and prostitution tropes? And do you really think he makes any distinction between crossdresser, genderqueers, transsexuals and drag queens? If ya do then I imagine you are way wrong. He finds all of us "crossdressers," Mister. You, me, and the drag queens, crossdressers, WBTs, MBTs, genderqueers and, to be honest, all lesbians and straight people who don't meet his socio-economic criteria for inclusion.

[imaz]

Where did he pick on non white people?  On lesbians?  on bisexuals?  on non-CDs?

Read the link.

[Mister]

Read the link.

clearly I did... and I don't see any ill will toward lesbians, bisexuals, people of color, or non CDs.
Post Merge: March 10, 2009, 06:56:55 PM

While I'm not opposed to sporadic and infrequent attention to lesbians, I do not want this blog devoting any more time to their cause....Simply because I am gay does not mean I care about lesbians, bisexuals or transgender persons. I don't even know why some people try and group us together as one cause - GLBT - because we are not. I can see some purpose to grouping G + L and even Bs together, but not Ts.

How does this equal anti-lesbian?  anti-ts?  anti-POC?

[imaz]

If you don't want to see, you don't want to see.

End of.

[NicholeW.]

Try this and see if you find a connection at all to his stuff.

Simply because I am a woman of transsexing history doesn't mean I find any reason to care about the issues of men with transsexing histories, let alone any other people who might have an interest in posting at this site. I suppose some MTFs may be okay, but their issues should be kept to a minimum here.

Nichole

[Mister]

If you don't want to see, you don't want to see.

End of.

I can see a possible- though in my opinion very contrived- case of most of what you're saying.  Where's anti-person of color?
Post Merge: March 10, 2009, 07:12:17 PM

Try this and see if you find a connection at all to his stuff.

Simply because I am a woman of transsexing history doesn't mean I find any reason to care about the issues of men with transsexing histories, let alone any other people who might have an interest in posting at this site. I suppose some MTFs may be okay, but their issues should be kept to a minimum here.

Nichole

Well, what's the nature of the blog this was orginally posted on?  was it his?  was it a blog for gay men? can't a blog for gay men stay of a gay men only nature?  why does it have to take on issues of every other marginalized population?  if it did, wouldn't that abolish the niche for the gay male blog altogether?

[imaz]

I give up...

WUM