Rape used as lesbian 'cure'

[Jay]

the sad thing is the rapists probably actually believe that, (just like some places they think raping a virgin will cure them from aids.)
god the arrogance. thinking that they're lesbian just because they haven't experienced a man. 

I agree Nero, talking of arrogance my friend who used to live in South Africa for many years said that she once tuned into a "black" station and it was broad casted over and over again that "Aids is a lie that the white man have made up to stop us from breeding." And I bet many people do believe it.

[Pica Pica]

people believe that in this century?

[krptcmschfmkr128]

Pica, this century is even more egotistical and closed minded then past centuries. It's horrible.

And as far as rape 'curing' lesbianism (is that a word?). If anything, rape would make the woman hate/dislike men all the more.

[Hypatia]

And as far as rape 'curing' lesbianism (is that a word?). If anything, rape would make the woman hate/dislike men all the more.

It most certainly did in my case.

[Pica Pica]

Pica, this century is even more egotistical and closed minded then past centuries. It's horrible.

I'd agree with the close minded bit, but i did think it was slightly less crazy than other centuries.

[krptcmschfmkr128]

I'd agree with the close minded bit, but i did think it was slightly less crazy than other centuries.

Sadly, a majority of the male population thinks they're "god's gift" to women and can't fathom a woman not wanting them, especially for another woman. And there's plenty of areas that are still quite barbaric and crazy. I've heard in Africa it's commonplace for women to be raped "just because".  So, while we live in more "civilized" (if you want to call them that) areas of the world, there are still others that are horrendous and treat women/homosexuals like crap.

[Starr]

It most certainly did in my case.

A therapist told me that a lot of incest victims become lesbians for that very reason.

[Alyssa M.]

 

I know just the thing that will cure these "men" of their heterosexuality.

[Hypatia]

A therapist told me that a lot of incest victims become lesbians for that very reason.

Makes perfect sense to me.

[Janet Merai]

Words cannot even begin to describe how horrific and disgusting that is... rape to a heterosexual woman is common yet still disgusting, but hate crimes just make it worse.

I just do not understand why a lot of girls take self defense classes or something, seriously.

[Cindy]

I agree with self defense classes and it has to be street wise classes. But. A bigger person will usually overcome a smaller person. Unless you are willing to go into survival self defence. You need to be fit, alert and willing to take out eyes, tongues and testicles. If there
are more than one and they are heavier than you you need a weapon or be seriously skilled. And totally brutal. Most males on the street in Australia that try it on with girl friends are drunk. Crush their balls full time. If on a place and they come full frontal, take their eyes out, either a single finger or if you practice both.
If a heavier person gets you on the ground you are basically finished. Unless getting to the eyes is an option. And do not hesitate.

No man, or women has the right to rape. You are justified in taking extreme measures..


If on the ground offer something, ->-bleeped-<- rather than vaginal or anal rape. It gives you control again and kill or maime the thing ASAP. Get over I'm hurting a human being. You are not, you need to survive.

LoL
Cindy James

[Hypatia]

Step 1. Jab your fingers into their eyes first. Hard. Their hands will fly up to their face instead of automatically protecting their balls.

Step 2. Hold them by a shoulder and hit the balls with your knee. Hard.

Step 3. As they crumple forward, aim a hard blow to the base of the skull. They should go down if you hit hard enough in the right place.

Step 4. Run like a m*****f*****.

This is the sequence I learned in women's self-defense class. Taught by a lesbian feminist. A literal ball-buster!

[NicholeW.]

South African men seem to have developed a really scary culture of violent dominance over the last 20 years or so, and gang violence is pretty-much endemic here. Not to say that everybody is in a gang, but that same kind of dog-eat-dog mentality is widespread, where you constantly have to prove yourself through violence. It's male dominance taken to an extreme, and obviously the thought of a woman not "wanting" a guy "as a man" is a huge threat to his ego, which is what that entire dominance is based on. Likewise, "men dressed like women" undermine that idea of dominance, and they have to be destroyed.

Really?Just in the past 20 years? So all the violence and ideas like that didn't come from the Dutch, Cecil Rhodes and Omm Paul, etc? To be passed along through Botha and the struggles over apartheid?

I find it rather a common sentiment in lots of places. There is no beat-down quite so terrible as to have your own body violated by someone else's genitalia. None. And yes, I know that from experience. Killing is much kinder.

I see the same sorts of beliefs here as well. Not as openly displayed, but certainly not a small minority opinion. "Hey, honey, I can cure you of your lesbianism. You just need a good screw from someone like me." Yeah, right.

Cultures that thrive on violence, even as they make some attempts to ease the violence, seem to find the answers for everything in violence. This isn't just about ZA. The Afghan Parliament just rammed through an anti-rape bill as well. It basically says it's impossible to rape any woman, anywhere in Afghanistan.

And USA rape laws have only been made tougher in the past 25-30 years. We revel in violence and how easy it is to force one's will onto another through such means. 

Nichole

[mina.magpie]

Really?Just in the past 20 years? So all the violence and ideas like that didn't come from the Dutch, Cecil Rhodes and Omm Paul, etc? To be passed along through Botha and the struggles over apartheid?

Not what I said Nicole, or at least not how I intended it to be understood. Sorry for not making myself clear. Violence and brutality is endemic to every country colonised by a European power, as it is in many other places in the world. What I was trying to convey though is that, in much the same way as a civil war will leave a country with a generation of profoundly screwed-up individuals, the violence that went on here in the 70's and 80's and into the 90's has left us with a generation of people with pretty-much no socialisation and zero empathy. They know only brutality and violence and power. That's as true of white boys who got drafted to go fight on the border as it is of black boys who were fighting against police actions in the townships.

Mina.

[NicholeW.]

Just making sure that's what you meant.

And actually, I didn't mean to be a nuisance. What I read actually made me wonder if you were laying the violence off to the account of the non-apartheid government's rise, about 20 years ago, and had sorta left out the horrendously violent ancien regime. 

[mina.magpie]

And actually, I didn't mean to be a nuisance. What I read actually made me wonder if you were laying the violence off to the account of the non-apartheid government's rise, about 20 years ago, and had sorta left out the horrendously violent ancien regime.

No worries. I shoulda been clearer. I just meant that the sins of our fathers will be haunting us for a very long time.

[NicholeW.]

Yeah, that tends to always be true and always has been true. I suspect the violence thing started while our ancestors were still Australopithecines if not earlier.

N~

[mina.magpie]

Yeah, that tends to always be true and always has been true. I suspect the violence thing started while our ancestors were still Australopithecines if not earlier.

From what I've read we were doing pretty okay during the paleolithic - much more egalitarian, less violent, etc. It's when we settled down and started farming that it all went to hell, I suppose since that's where ownership started.

Mina.

[NicholeW.]

From what I've read we were doing pretty okay during the paleolithic - much more egalitarian, less violent, etc. It's when we settled down and started farming that it all went to hell, I suppose since that's where ownership started.

Mina.

You have to dmit if you nearest neighbor is 5 miles away in another town it's a bit easier to encoach violently than if she's 100 miles away living along a small riverband with her tribe.

In that regard you're prolly right. Framing made it possible to feed much larger assemblies of people. The more population the more war, and rape for that matter, became feasible. And the more necessity there would be to delineate property: land, goods, crops, etc.

Hmm, who shall we make the priest? And whom shall we elect king?

Nichole

[Janet Merai]

The only time I will ever accept any form of rape is when it is a fantasy and the person wants it to seem like rape when it is not.

I myself have a rape fantasy where I am dominated, but I later learned its just me being highly submissive and wish to be dominated fully, but I do not approve of rape unless its fantasy or faked and does not try to depict a real event.

Rape is just wrong in my eyes.