Androgynes in War

[KYLYKaHYT]

OMG! As if it wasn't bad enough already we're up against the Dykes too! (the one on the right is well hot, love the boxer's!)

I remember when I was a kid, during the summertime all the boys would wear their boxers way down low so that they hung down beyond the bottom of their shorts or cutoffs. Being assumed to be a boy myself, I guess I was expected to dress likewise, but instead I tended to prefer my cutoffs extra-short, with the sides of the legs slit, and without the atrocious fashion statement of having a pair of ugly skivvies sticking out the bottom of them. I think these days, at least in the U.S., people refer to such shorts as "Daisy Dukes".

Of course, my own fashion statement got me teased to no end for being a sissy, ->-bleeped-<-, whatever... but to this day, I still can't fathom anything even remotely sexy about boxer shorts - no matter who's wearing them.     

Sorry for going off-topic. I guess those boxers just kinda triggered me. 

[imaz]

Come on! If that girl ain't sexy God knows what is!

[Nicky]

I think that's kind of an odd comment.  It seems to be making a lot of assumptions about "androgynes" having some kind of overarching, uniting character beyond their androgyny.  Why the kitchens, why entertainment?  Because we're all too feminine to get our hands dirty?  Because we're little kids who want to play dress up?  I don't get it.

All cultures make war, and lots of cultures have more than 2 genders.  Ergo lots of cultures must have fighty-fighty androgynes.  If you look at some cultures, people with androgynous traits are regarded as more dangerous in battle because they are seen as transgressing conventional social mores, or as imbued with some kind of magical power or significance. 

Personally I don't see myself in the conventional military because I'm too mentally erratic to fit in well.  I do badly with institutional irrationality.  However I can definately see myself in battle, were I physically capable.  I know what it is to fight for my own life and I could certainly do it again; fighting for the people I care about would be fairly natural for me.

I did say "but I don't really know". It was just a guess based on they type of people I see here. I don't think many of us would do well in 'conventional' military - as in europen, american, english two gendered society armies.. When I talk to other androgynes I hear that many have struggles with conformity. Armies seem to be all about conforming or they break you, so I imagine that androgynes would more likely appear in roles that allow a little bit more freedom. My examples were probably a little misleading. I'm not saying we are not capable of fighting, many of us have already expressed that they are fully capable of violence if the need arises.

A wasn't even thinking of soldiers from other cultures. Thanks for that, food for thought..

[V M]

Come on! If that girl ain't sexy God knows what is!

Them girls is cute. My evil twin wishes he could be so cute. Unfortunately he/she was running about rather scary places carrying an Automatic, a shotgun, a 9mm and a pair of .45's and a few other fine toys  It's all good, rather not think about it 

[tekla]

Unfortunately he/she was running about rather scary places carrying an Automatic, a shotgun, a 9mm and a pair of .45's and a few other fine toys

I believe those fine young women are members of the IDF, and have all those toys and more.

[V M]

Girls will be girls 

[imaz]

Unfortunately he/she was running about rather scary places carrying an Automatic, a shotgun, a 9mm and a pair of .45's and a few other fine toys

I believe those fine young women are members of the IDF, and have all those toys and more.

Unfortunately you are 100% correct, still would though. Shame on me!

[V M]

There are some amazing men and women out there. The smiles of those extracted from bad places gives me no regrets. Seeing them greet their friends and family brings me to tears.

[Cindy]

I remember a quote from somewhere:

Violence is the last resort of the incompetent

[KYLYKaHYT]

Come on! If that girl ain't sexy God knows what is!

I never said the girl wasn't sexy, I just said her skivvies weren't. 

[imaz]

I never said the girl wasn't sexy, I just said her skivvies weren't. 

That's the best bit! She knows what she wants...

[Constance]

I remember a quote from somewhere:

Violence is the last resort of the incompetent

I think that's from Isaac Asimov's Foundation books, possibly from the first one. I never read them, but my older brother has.