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Started by milliontoone, March 31, 2009, 05:19:19 AM

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Definitely the best police post by a moderator I've seen in a while...
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Mister

Quote from: Vesper on April 10, 2009, 02:19:36 AM
Definitely the best police post by a moderator I've seen in a while...

for sure.  kudos, tam.
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perfectisolation

I'm just curious...
Does anyone on here think about abstaining from sex until they're on hormones or had a certain amount of surgery?

I don't think I could ever be that intimate with my body until I feel more like my body is male and not all feminine and estrogeny - as in, being on T for a few months, having chest surgery and full hysto. Also the way the uterus and ovaries behave during arousal.. The thought is sickening to me, it makes me fight it.  :eusa_wall: I guess I think about it too much. But it's so nasty.  :(
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JonasCarminis

i think it just depends on the person.  i dont think anyone would criticize you for your abstention.  it sounds reasonable to me
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IanToxic

eww that makes me glad that i know about as much about "female" anatomy as the average dude *shudders* ugh anyways when it comes to abstaining from sex that doesn't seem bad lol i do that when it comes to other dudes i can handle sex and wanking every now and then but its not very often lol but i'm hoping it'll get better once everything doesn't um suck lol
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Mister

Quote from: northy on April 10, 2009, 11:33:19 AM
I'm just curious...
Does anyone on here think about abstaining from sex until they're on hormones or had a certain amount of surgery?

I don't think I could ever be that intimate with my body until I feel more like my body is male and not all feminine and estrogeny - as in, being on T for a few months, having chest surgery and full hysto. Also the way the uterus and ovaries behave during arousal.. The thought is sickening to me, it makes me fight it.  :eusa_wall: I guess I think about it too much. But it's so nasty.  :(

I'm not sure how many people on this forum chose to abstain, but I know a few dudes IRL who did.  Funny thing, though- none of them stuck to it once they met someone who was totally accepting of their male identities.  Sometimes other people can help you gain confidence in your body...  just sayin'.
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Nero

Quote from: northy on April 10, 2009, 11:33:19 AM
I'm just curious...
Does anyone on here think about abstaining from sex until they're on hormones or had a certain amount of surgery?

I don't think I could ever be that intimate with my body until I feel more like my body is male and not all feminine and estrogeny - as in, being on T for a few months, having chest surgery and full hysto. Also the way the uterus and ovaries behave during arousal.. The thought is sickening to me, it makes me fight it.  :eusa_wall: I guess I think about it too much. But it's so nasty.  :(

Nothing wrong with abstinence. BTW, I actually love what the uterus gets up to during arousal. To each his own.  :laugh:
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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sd

Quote from: northy on April 10, 2009, 11:33:19 AM
I'm just curious...
Does anyone on here think about abstaining from sex until they're on hormones or had a certain amount of surgery?
I'm going the other way, but there are a few of us who have/do abstain. There are even a few who are married who have very little sex.
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Arch

I used to have anal sex by myself but not with my partner. I gave up anal for several years when I went back into the closet. Threw away my dildo and everything. I fantasized about it, but I didn't actually do it.

After I came back out of the closet last year, the urge became unbearable. I bought some new toys and started up again. But I couldn't do it with my partner. We only have front-door sex.

After I started T, my desire for anal shot through the roof. I basically wanted more of any kind of sex, but especially that kind. I'm still dealing with my libido. I'm also still dealing with shame and guilt. For years, I saw my anal desires as a dirty little secret and evidence of my perversion.

BUT...I love it more than ever now, much more than the other kind of penetration. I'm not sure if the T has had anything to do with that, but I'm more accepting and less judgmental about my sexual orientation and my preferences. I'm sure that has something to do with the heightened pleasure.

It's weird. Now I have more hang-ups about "straight" sex than I do about "gay" sex. My thinking has shifted. I think of my front hole as a girl hole. I haven't quite come to terms with it yet. And now I keep telling myself that if I have sex there, it makes me a girl. And I argue with myself.

Such twisted thinking.

Sometimes I want to give up "straight" sex. But I still like that kind of sex. I like how it feels with the organs that I have, too. For this reason, I might never have a hysto.

Anyway, that's been my experience.
"The hammer is my penis." --Captain Hammer

"When all you have is a hammer . . ." --Anonymous carpenter
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Mr. Fox

Mister's back!  Okay, that's all.
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Mister

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kestin

I have been a romance fan since I was around 10 years old and started reading V.C. Andrews novels. At around age 13, I discovered fandoms on the internet through the various anime shows I liked at the time. When I started to become a huge CSI fan around the same age, I wondered if that show too, had a fandom like the anime stuff and that was when I found 'Under the Bridge' that later was known as 'Your Tax Dollars At Work'. Its one of the largest CSI message boards on the net and I'm member 192 out of more than 20'000 I think now. Neway, there was one particular epic smut fanfiction called Movie on a Night Out aka MoaNo :D it was through this that I came across anal sex between a heterosexual couple (and where the female initiated it) and I was all like "whoa, this is way better." lol

So basically, once I knew that women could and did enjoy anal, I basically knew that was what I preferred too. Vaginal penetration had never really interested me, and in sex scenes I usually lost interest after they stopped writing about the foreplay lol. So yes, even before I realised my ->-bleeped-<--ness and such, I knew I really only ever wanted to have sex anally... however at the time, I thought I'd eventually grow up and like it the 'normal' way.

Hmm, still a resounding No.
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Andrew

Not too into anal myself. I kinda feel lucky to have a vagina. I'll try anything once, but anal doesn't really get me off. Vaginal sex is just...nice. Sex is simpler, too. Gay bio-guys have to navigate the whole oral-anal-etc. thing, but for me sex with guys is relatively uncomplicated. Through my *cough* extensive research, I've discovered that I'm comfortable with being a guy with a vagina. My gay partners haven't really had a problem with it...
Lock up yer daughters.
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icontact

Quote from: Arch on April 10, 2009, 03:33:22 PM
It's weird. Now I have more hang-ups about "straight" sex than I do about "gay" sex. My thinking has shifted. I think of my front hole as a girl hole. I haven't quite come to terms with it yet. And now I keep telling myself that if I have sex there, it makes me a girl. And I argue with myself.

Would you still consider it a girlhole if you did it doggy-style? That way the positioning would make you a male, but get you the female pleasure. That's the way I look at it at least. I don't know if I'd ever get comfortable with missionary.
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Luc

Arch, I know exactly what you're saying about the libido, shame, etc. bit... I deal with the exact same thing constantly. My sex drive has increased quite a bit on T, of course, and I'm now interested in ANYTHING sex-wise... plenty of things to explore, I suppose. For some reason, though, I've always felt like anal sex was wrong. I've done it, I masturbate that way occasionally, but I always feel disgusting afterward. If you find a way to get past that, man, please let me know.

SD
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Arch

Quote from: Asher on April 15, 2009, 10:14:59 PM
Would you still consider it a girlhole if you did it doggy-style? That way the positioning would make you a male, but get you the female pleasure. That's the way I look at it at least. I don't know if I'd ever get comfortable with missionary.

I hadn't thought of this, Asher, but I have to admit that it doesn't seem to matter what position I use. And, you know, you can have anal sex face-to-face anyway. I fantasize that I'm doing that with someone special who shall be nameless.

I think I just need to get farther along in my transition and get more comfortable with myself, my gender identity, and my anatomy. And I need to talk about my hang-ups with my therapist. Obviously, all of this will take some time. I don't think there is a quick fix.

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Quote from: Sebastien on April 16, 2009, 12:24:36 AM
Arch, I know exactly what you're saying about the libido, shame, etc. bit... I deal with the exact same thing constantly. My sex drive has increased quite a bit on T, of course, and I'm now interested in ANYTHING sex-wise... plenty of things to explore, I suppose. For some reason, though, I've always felt like anal sex was wrong. I've done it, I masturbate that way occasionally, but I always feel disgusting afterward. If you find a way to get past that, man, please let me know.

Sebastien, one thing my therapist told me might help. I haven't had much chance to test it out yet, though. He said that the more time I spend around other people like me--by which he meant gay men, but particularly gay men who, unlike me, are comfortable with their sexuality--the more I will feel that my own proclivities are okay.

The other thing that is helpful to me is that my therapist is gay. I've never actually asked him whether he likes anal sex (I'm not sure I could), but I do know that he is comfortable with his sexual orientation. I guess that won't help you unless you're in therapy AND your therapist is a happy anal perv (haha), but I thought I would throw that out there.

I guess a lot of people aren't too comfortable talking about sex with their therapists. I'm usually okay talking about the sex that I have with my partner, but I start having trouble when I try to talk about my hang-ups. I completely trust my therapist, but I'm still uncomfortable talking about some topics because I tend to pass judgment on myself. He never does that--one reason I'm able to talk to him about very personal things is that he is so open and nonjudgmental.

Oh, and another thing. He said that while I'm having the sex, I shouldn't focus on my emotions or my reactions; I should focus on the pleasurable sensations. When my mind wanders into judgmental territory, I yank it back and focus on the physical. I've been doing this for several months, and it seems to be working.

I'm getting better about anal, although I still have a ways to go. But the front hole...I was okay with it last year. Only when I started transition did it become a problem.

I can't even say the proper anatomical word. Sigh.
"The hammer is my penis." --Captain Hammer

"When all you have is a hammer . . ." --Anonymous carpenter
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Kayden

Quote from: Kayden on March 31, 2009, 05:29:39 AM
Lol.

Anyway.  Uh, I'll let you know in a couple of weeks or so?  --cough--

So a month on T now and I thought I go back to the original point of this post.

Pretty much everything seems to feel better on T.   Anything to do with foreplay and/or sex.  Even farting is more satisfying (as amusing or gross as you may find that).  Uh, and to be clear, farting has nothing to do with sex, just thought I'd note that difference.

Anywho.  Yep.  That's the short of it.
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kestin

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Jaimey

If curiosity really killed the cat, I'd already be dead. :laugh:

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." GWC
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Jamie-o

Oh goody!  Kayden's revived the anal sex thread!   ;D  I missed it the first time around. :( 
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