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Started by Jill, April 02, 2009, 09:11:22 PM

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cindybc

You are quite welcome hun. There are some really genuine caring people on this board whom I believe you will find useful in helping you find your way on your journey to becoming your true self. I'll be around here abouts. My partner and I were again out and about exploring other places to rent out in the country around Vancouver area. I think I like the Ladner area. Anyway we have began an earnest quest for a new apartment.

My story is long and has a long meandering path to finding whom resides within. You are welcome to check out my blog if you wish.

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php?board=286.0

Cindy

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Sophie90

1: Why not?
Several reasons.
Mainly, I'm not sure what my identity is yet.
I kinda doubt that it is male, really, more likely andogyne.
I am afraid of losing friends and friends/family thinking I'm weird.
If I were male I would also be gay, so it would be pretty tough to find a partner, as it's not exactly a piece of cake now.

2: How do I cope with it?
Quite easily, actually.
I'm largely indifferent towards it.
Being born female is just a thing that happened.
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xsocialworker

I wonder how many people would choose not to have GRS if there were no legal or identity issues with remaining non-op.

1) DMV
2) Social Security
3) Airport Security
4) Medical Records

I may not belong on this board, but my first thought when I woke up from GRS in 2006 was now I'm legal and the Real ID or some weird interpretation of identity by the Bushies can't touch me now unless I want to get married to a man in Texas which I don't.
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Mister

I didn't choose to go the surgical route because it would allow me to change documents- I went the surgical route because it allowed me to change the parts of my body I'd rather have ripped off with my bare hands than live with any longer.

/subtlety
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Nero

Quote from: Mister on May 12, 2009, 11:54:29 PM
I didn't choose to go the surgical route because it would allow me to change documents- I went the surgical route because it allowed me to change the parts of my body I'd rather have ripped off with my bare hands than live with any longer.

/subtlety

this. definitely.
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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Vexing

Hrmm.
I've been given the green light to have the love spuds cut out, which is happening in approximately sometime in the next six months - as few as three if I'm lucky.
After that, I'm going to have to have a period of reflection and decide whether or not I really need me an axe wound, or whether I'm comfortable keeping the trouser trout.
Considering that my partner is okay whichever way I go and that I don't need a vaginoplasty to get my documents changed to 'F', I'm uncertain as to whether or not I want to blow $30k on a fancy new mimsy, when I don't actually need one.
So at this stage, I'll say I'm non-op.
How do I cope? Dunno. I just do.
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Mister

Quote from: Nero on May 13, 2009, 12:11:28 AM
this. definitely.

i advocate sticking with the professionals.  they leave fewer scars ;)
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cindybc

Hi Vexing, if you are going as far as it is feasible for you to be as close and as comfortable with who you desire to be; as congruent as you can possibly be; and you desire to complete the journey if you acquire the funds, you are still in my opinion preop even if you never get the complete surgery.

Cindy
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Vexing

Quote from: cindybc on May 13, 2009, 02:16:39 AM
you are still in my opinion preop even if you never get the complete surgery.
Good for you.
In my opinion, I'm not; since I don't know whether I'll want further surgery after an orchidectomy.
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xsocialworker

After my GRS , I had the good fortune to become afflicted with extensive arthritis. This led to hip replacement plus the continuing need for aquatic exercises. Being Post-op, I can:

1) Join a swimming club where my ID passed the test to join.
2) No paranoia in the locker room
3) No cognitive dissonance at a medical exam not involving extensive medical history.
4) Getting an artificial joint guarantees a body pat down everytime I fly. This includes breasts and between the legs.

I had GRS because I got sick and tired of fighting against gender tyranny. The correct plan is for younger people to integrate themselves into society as non=op if that is their choice. The goal should be to create a cultural change where there is no stigma about being any combination of genders


Post Merge: May 13, 2009, 07:57:41 AM

This may not sit well with those who believe "in being whole", but I saw GRS as only a political decision just to make dealing with "The Man" less complicated .With different laws and rules , I woulda been fine staying non-op.

Post Merge: May 13, 2009, 09:04:55 AM

Just to add, I had an orchie in 2004. It may have solved hormone issues, but not legal issues. In 2005, non-ops who lost their homes after Katrina could not find shelter in the great state of Texgas. I did want not ever to be in that situation as I live in a Gulf state. Sorry to bring a heavy political note to this, but that is my view
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fae_reborn

Quote from: Vexing on May 13, 2009, 03:12:20 AM
Good for you.
In my opinion, I'm not; since I don't know whether I'll want further surgery after an orchidectomy.

Being nearly eight months post-orchi, I have decided for the time being that I do not want any further surgeries.  Being accepted socially as female is more important for me, and after having the "love spuds" removed (as you put them, I like that BTW) I'm more comfortable in my body.

My legal records have all been changed to female and in the eyes of the law and those around me, I'm female.  Basically, I'm integrating into the "woodwork" as it were, and going stealth even though I'm not meaning to.
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Mister

so...  the general consensus is that an orchi still classifies someone as non-op? 
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fae_reborn

Quote from: Mister on May 13, 2009, 12:38:21 PM
so...  the general consensus is that an orchi still classifies someone as non-op?

I believe it depends on the individual being asked.  You can call me non-op, pre-op, post-op, whatever...I'm a Woman first.
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Mister

Quote from: Fae on May 13, 2009, 01:02:03 PM
I believe it depends on the individual being asked.  You can call me non-op, pre-op, post-op, whatever...I'm a Woman first.

Gotcha.  Seems logical to me that orchi = op, BA = op, w/e.  :)
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Steph

Quote from: Fae on May 13, 2009, 12:36:09 PM
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My legal records have all been changed to female and in the eyes of the law and those around me, I'm female.

Till you're naked.

QuoteBasically, I'm integrating into the "woodwork" as it were, and going stealth even though I'm not meaning to.

Good luck with the stealth bit... Damn near an impossibility.

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Vexing

Quote from: Mister on May 13, 2009, 01:04:33 PM
Gotcha.  Seems logical to me that orchi = op, BA = op, w/e.  :)

Within the MTF community, SRS is seen as THE op.
This is mirrored by general society; you ask Joe Schmoe on the street and he'll tell you that full sex change surgery is 'The Op'.

Orchi = Op? So does appendix removal I guess.

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NicholeW.

Quote from: Vexing on May 13, 2009, 03:41:03 PM

Orchi = Op? So does appendix removal I guess.

A bit pointed, but definitely true w/ both Joe Schmo and most former transsexuals.
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Mister

Joe Schmoe will reiterate a lot of other ignorant things about TS people, too. 
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Vexing

Quote from: Mister on May 13, 2009, 04:02:43 PM
Joe Schmoe will reiterate a lot of other ignorant things about TS people, too. 
That doesn't preclude him from occasionally being right ;)
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cindybc

Ask Schrödinger's cat.

Cindy 
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