Susan's Place Logo

News:

Visit our Discord server  and Wiki

Main Menu

Am I an androgyne? Not sure...

Started by Fenrir, April 09, 2009, 07:00:32 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Fenrir

Hello, everyone! This is my first post here (hopefully the first of many, you all seem really nice!), and I'd like your opinions on where I fit.
Ok, I've only really been researching in-depth about androgyny for a short while, but I think it might fit me...?
I'm biologically female, but go through phases of feeling either male, female or neither. Although I own female clothing and do wear it from time to time (usually as a response to needing to 'look nice' for a party or similar event, or purely because I was too lazy to put a wash on and have nothing else clean) I never really feel comfortable in it, preferring instead to go for androgynous or boy's clothes, and am considering getting a chest binder for days when I am feeling really 'trans'. I am fine (mostly!) with my female appearance (eg. my face and hair), I just want a flat chest and to be taller and stronger.
I'm not really sexually attracted to anyone, but still have vague hopes of maybe fancying someone someday.  ;D
I think androgyne might be more fitting than transgendered because I don't feel like I hate all my femaleness. Socially, I want to be able to blend in with groups of either girls or guys, but still be able to use my base girl-ness or guy-ness to escape from situations I'm not that comfortable with. (Heck, I do this anyway!)
The thing that casts doubt on my mind is the fact that for several years in school I was subjected to a lot of sexist bullying (and we were forced to wear skirts as well, which I hated) and all the girls in my year were basically useless, so after that I had a big reactionary period where I hated girls (having come to believe that they were stupid and weak, as the bullies said) and was pretty much quite strongly a guy for six months-ish after I left that school. It messed me up kinda, but I've more-or-less recovered now... It's mainly since that started that I've been really questioning my true gender status, because before then I always wanted to say I was 'gender-neutral' (because to my young self it sounded cool and I had fantasies of having neither set of genitalia) but never really thought about it. I was never really into girly stuff (or guy-y stuff, for that matter) and could never stand makeup!  :) :icon_blah:
Well, feel free to ask me any questions... yep! I think that's about all I can think of to say on the matter. Sorry for the long essay-ness of this post! (Secretly, I think this is pretty good going, but I'm sure some of you might be defeated by its awesome length.  ;D)
  •  

Pica Pica

Well hello and welcome.
Looks like you passed the rigorous exam for entrance.
"go through phases of feeling either male, female or neither"
There you go, you get to go into the exclusive androgyne lounge and enjoy all the amenities like hot and cold running water.

Honestly, that's all that's needed. All other differences are just things to natter about. But seeing as you asked for questions  >:-)
Please complete the following statements...if you fancy.


When I'm angry:


When I'm sad:


When I'm lonely:


When I'm happy:


The best year of my life was:


Lying is:


My current annoyance is:


I want to buy:


If you visited the place I'm from:


If I died today:


My first job was:


I collect:
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
  •  

Nero

sounds like. welcome to the forest.
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
  •  

Jaimey

Welcome!  I'm similar to you in regards to gender.  It's always nice to have another unicorn to frolic about with us.  :D

...You look pretty important in that pic, Pica.  What's up with that?  :P
If curiosity really killed the cat, I'd already be dead. :laugh:

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." GWC
  •  

Fenrir

#4
Thanks everyone for the warm welcome! I managed to post this topic twice by accident because my internet went strange on me... I can't figure out how to delete the spare!  >:(
Fine then, Pica, I shall answer your questions!  :D
When I'm angry: I cry. It's a terrible habit because no one takes you seriously if you cry.

When I'm sad: I listen to music through headphones in the dark!

When I'm lonely: I text my insommniac friend who foolishly agreed to always reply when I text him. Mwahaha!  >:-)

When I'm happy: I daydream a lot and am quite industrious with my drawing.

The best year of my life was: When I was 6, because that was cool.  ;D

Lying is: Largely avoidable if you can think fast enough to be technically telling the truth.

My current annoyance is: Computers. Graah! Why do they torment me so!  ???

I want to buy: Lots of books. Too many to list, really...

If you visited the place I'm from: You'd be quite horrified by the amount of roadworks going on; it's becoming quite ridiculous.

If I died today: I'd be slightly puzzled, but relatively OK. Also curious to find out if my theories on life after death are really true...

My first job was: I'm young. I've intended to get a job for a while but... laziness triumphs over all!  :(

I collect: Cheesy lonely-hearts adverts and dreadful Sci-fi novels. I love the mediocre in life!  ;)


edit-personal info
  •  

Jaimey

Quote from: Fenrir on April 09, 2009, 08:01:41 PM
When I'm angry: I cry. It's a terrible habit because no one takes you seriously if you cry.

...deja vu?  I think we've had an entire conversation about this...or something similar...or I've lost my mind and have no idea what I'm talking about...
If curiosity really killed the cat, I'd already be dead. :laugh:

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." GWC
  •  

Pica Pica

Quote from: Fenrir on April 09, 2009, 08:01:41 PM

I collect: Cheesy lonely-hearts adverts


edit-personal info

so do i, i have some real good 'uns.

oh, i'm reading a bit of a story at a small (very small) literary festival. Though i did et to have a chat with Jean Ure and Iain (M) Banks.
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
  •  

Saraloop

Quotebecause to my young self it sounded cool and I had fantasies of having neither set of genitalia

That's like I want.

What would be your ideal body now?
  •  

RebeccaFog

Hi,

Androgyne falls under the trans umbrella the same way as rain seems to do.

You sound suspiciously like one of us which, of course, is good reason to suspect that you are a bad influence on others.   :)


Quote from: Pica Pica on April 09, 2009, 07:19:18 PM
Well hello and welcome.
Looks like you passed the rigorous exam for entrance.
"go through phases of feeling either male, female or neither"
There you go, you get to go into the exclusive androgyne lounge and enjoy all the amenities like hot and cold running water.

don't you mean cold and cold running water?




When I'm angry:

I feel sad

When I'm sad:

I feel angry

When I'm lonely:

I feel sad

When I'm happy:

I brush my teeth

The best year of my life was:

was the one preceding my birth

Lying is:

the best position to sleep in


My current annoyance is:

the color red


I want to buy:

money

If you visited the place I'm from:

we'd steal your car.

If I died today:

I'd probably just wake up tomorrow

I collect:

dust


Post Merge: April 10, 2009, 11:36:58 PM

Quote from: Fenrir on April 09, 2009, 08:01:41 PM
My first job was: I'm young. I've intended to get a job for a while but... laziness triumphs over all!  :(

Lucky!

I almost forgot to say Welcome.  Welcome!


It just occurred to me that if we could find more corn, we'd be multicorns. Why didn't any of you think of this?   :P



Post Merge: April 11, 2009, 12:38:47 AM

Quote from: Pica Pica on April 10, 2009, 04:47:37 AM
so do i, i have some real good 'uns.

oh, i'm reading a bit of a story at a small (very small) literary festival. Though i did et to have a chat with Jean Ure and Iain (M) Banks.

If you become famous, I'm stealing your boots.
  •  

Jaimey

Lying is the best position to sleep in, eh, Rebs?  *eyes Rebis suspiciously*  :P

multicorns...*shakes head*  >:-)  hehe.

You're in rare form today, Rebs!  :-*
If curiosity really killed the cat, I'd already be dead. :laugh:

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." GWC
  •  

Kinkly

Unicorns R smarter
would you like less corns that  are smart
or lots of dumb corns
I don't want to be a man there from Mars
I'd Like to be a woman Venus looks beautiful
I'm enjoying living on Pluto, but it is a bit lonely
  •  

RebeccaFog


Any corns can beat me in a math exam.
  •  

Saraloop

There's lots of corn syrup in everything we eat these days. Hope that's not why unis are extinct.

  •  

Simone Louise

Quote from: Saraloop on April 11, 2009, 11:39:25 AM
There's lots of corn syrup in everything we eat these days. Hope that's not why unis are extinct.

There might not be any corn syrup in your food, if you were celebrating Passover. On the other hand, we've gone through 2 dozen eggs in 3 days.

S
Choose life.
  •  

ZaidaZadkiel

Ooh! questionaires!
tho it was intended for Other person, you can't stop me from posting.

When I'm angry: I get hyperactive and make jokes about everything, eventually getting so hyper that my mind explodes into itself, and I have to lay down for at least 20 hours.

When I'm sad: I rarely feel "not sad", except when I'm high on cough syrup.

When I'm lonely: I look for somebody to talk to on the interbuttz or IRL, depending what seems like less trouble (usually the intardnuts)

When I'm happy: I am hallucinating

The best year of my life was: This one, because I have bad memory and I don't remember exactly how awesome where the other ones.

Lying is: Impossible. If you say something different than what really happened, the person whom you say it to will believe that that is what happened, and then there will be a conflict of "point of views", but that doesn't mean that the lie is invalid.
I don't lie because "transfering accurate information" is important to me.

My current annoyance is: Being unable to finish a job I have, and it is so simple...

I want to buy: A dress, a laptop and a ticket to anywhere.

If you visited the place I'm from: I'd steal a wallet. And show you around, take you to dinner (pay with your money) and do fun stuff.

If I died today: I secretely wish that'd happen, but it has never happened so far.

My first job was: Making a program for some dude who gave me the worst advice ever, sending me into a journey of mediocrity.

I collect: Thoughts and dreams.

Yay :D

re: corns
A unicorn and another unicorn get married and become bicorn, then they have children and they are known as the multicorns. Then Tony the tiger comes an takes them all and that's what you eat in the morning, dead unicorns.
  •  

tekla

When I'm angry:  You don't want to ever see that.  Few people have.  It's not pretty.


When I'm sad: I walk, fifteen miles tends to end it


When I'm lonely: I go the the Russian River Brewery, or to Specs, that's what bars are for.


When I'm happy: I'm a good person to be around.


The best year of my life was:  Last year was pretty good, next year will be better.


Lying is: Not telling the truth, omitting parts of it, humm, I have to think on that.


My current annoyance is: I try not to find things annoying, otherwise the list would be endless.


I want to buy: The new Dylan CD when it comes out in a few weeks


If you visited the place I'm from:  You would not want to leave.  Many people consider it one of the most beautiful places on earth.


If I died today: I'd be dead tomorrow too.  On the plus side, VISA and MasterCard are going to be pretty mad


My first job was: Paper route.  Midwest, in the winter too.


I collect:  Nothing really.  I used to collect all sorts of things, but got rid of it all and never started again.  I guess the closest thing I have to a collection is the sticky passes I put on my file cabnet (its covered in them) and all the laminates I have on a string.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
  •  

Shana A

Quote from: Simone Louise on April 11, 2009, 12:40:02 PM
There might not be any corn syrup in your food, if you were celebrating Passover. On the other hand, we've gone through 2 dozen eggs in 3 days.

S

Mmmmm, matzo brei  ;D

Z
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


  •  

Simone Louise

Quote from: Zythyra on April 11, 2009, 03:16:32 PM
Mmmmm, matzo brei  ;D

Z

Yes, some eggs went into that. And a couple in the chopped chicken liver (people who wouldn't normally go near liver, ask for mine--strange), 5 in the Italian nut cake (Torta del Rei), 1 boiled egg for each of the 10 who surrounded our seder table. It adds up.

Tonight, I have to figure what to cook with the leftover turkey. For the seder, I cooked a 13-pound turkey outside over charcoal and a little hickory. It was good, but we had lots of food. Raw veggies with two dips (one my daughter's guacamole) to eat during the service, Hillel sandwich, the eggs, matzah ball soup, chopped liver, sweet potato puree, asparagus, cranberry sauce, and fresh fruit and my daughter's caramel-chocolate-covered-matzah for dessert. We did a pretty good job of celebrating freedom for all. I've done a ton of dishes since.

My best to all who are celebrating at this season,
S
Choose life.
  •  

Fenrir

Quote from: Saraloop on April 10, 2009, 05:26:52 PM
That's like I want.

What would be your ideal body now?

Probably the same, actually... maybe more masculine? It's probably a reaction to the fact that my appearance has gone really feminine compared to when I was little. I just kind of envisaged as my ideal self this angel-like, androgynous being that people would marvel at.  :laugh: I was an ambitious child...  8)

I like that now everyone else is doing the questionnaire, too! Haha, yep, I can never resist questionnaires either  :P I don't know why, it's just that if someone puts one in front of me, I have this uncontrollable urge to fill it in... you see! THIS is why I lose so much of my time to the internet!  ;D

And for some reason, 'multicorns' just conjures up the image of some scary unicorn with LOTS of horns on its head, like a hairbrush  :o "Unicorn, from the latin 'unos', one, and 'cornu', a horn" (Quote from The Last Unicorn. I love that movie!  8))
  •  

KYLYKaHYT

Quote from: Fenrir on April 11, 2009, 06:24:24 PM
And for some reason, 'multicorns' just conjures up the image of some scary unicorn with LOTS of horns on its head, like a hairbrush  :o

'Multicorns' sounds like someone desperately needs to see a podiatrist.
ƃuoɹʍ llɐ ʇno əɯɐɔ ʇɐɥʇ
  •