Quote from: Marco on August 30, 2006, 12:55:04 PM
Quote from: Nero on August 30, 2006, 11:42:10 AM
Quote from: Marco on August 29, 2006, 10:01:25 PM
Annwyn,
The question you pose, I would say no. Now from a FtM perspective, it is about both. For me anyway. It is first about my body matching my mind, and it is also about sex. But not because of bottom surgery, it is just because I am a guy. Being on testosreone makes one want or need sex more, but my sex drive was high even before testosterone. SRS are for those who want everything to be inline. Body and soul.
And now from another FtM's perspective. To me, this is definitely not about sex. In fact, sex is one of the things that gave me pause about my decision to transition. If this were about sex, I would not do it.
I have so much sexual freedom now. Transitioning will change things. Gone will be the spontaneity of sex. Gone will be those steamy encounters with beautiful strangers in which the moment just flows.
Suddenly, I will be an individual without the expected package. I will have to have the "talk" with every new sex partner. Sex will never be the same again.
And to answer your question, Annwyn: No, SRS is not right for everyone. It is not right for me.
I wouldn't have it in a million years. I wouldn't have it for a million dollars. I wouldn't have it even if FtM SRS were perfect. In fact, if a fairy godmother or something showed up, offering to give me a fully functional natural male organ, I would pass. I simply like what I have.
Nero
Nero,
I guess I just don't get you. I have always had great sex with women, this is as a man. I can't get graphic here.
Hi Marco,
As far as the "sex" issue, one difference is that you have transitioned and I have not, so I am not sure as to what sex will be like once I'm on hormones and look (and sound) like any other man, yet I'll have a female sex organ.
While I won't approach sex any differently, I'm not looking forward to having the "talk" with every new woman I meet.
So that's what I mean about the sex. The spontaneity of it will be gone.
QuoteIf you identify as male in your mind, then why would you not want to have your body match if it could be granted to you to be fully functioning just as your body is now, but only as a man?
The short answer to that question is simple - I would miss my female sex organ.
One thing I've been asked alot is whether I'm genderqueer, because of liking my genitalia.
My genitalia is nothing but flesh, period. I don't identify even a miniscule bit as a female.
How come I don't want a penis? I wish I knew the answer to that one. If I had been born an anatomically correct male, I would like what I had, not to mention life would've been so much easier for me than to be born in the body I was. However, I was not born that way. I was not born with XY chromosomes, and no modifications to my body will ever make me a genetic man. If the fairy godmother were to show up now, she could not rewrite history and erase the fact that I was born female. She could not erase the fact that I know what it's like to have a female sex organ, get pleasure from it, and I am sure I would miss it, for better or worse, it is my sex organ.
For whatever reason, the incongruency between that part and my mind just does not bother me.
I guess I simply don't miss or long for a part that I never had.
QuoteThat says to me you don't want to be one then. I'm not trying to offend you, just trying to understand you.
No, I don't take offense. You're nice about it, I was called a freak on other forums.
You're right. I don't want to be something I'm not - a genetic man. I want to be me, I'm a man through and through.
I just want to be me and obviously
I don't have a penis. I just want to be me, I wish to preserve as much of myself as I can - the breasts can go, the voice can change, but I would be devastated if I lost any other physical attributes of myself. Not very translike of me, I know. Now this is not to say that my dysphoria is not severe, because it is. It was severe enough that I spent nearly a decade in that chemical induced misty-grey dream world.
I wish I knew how to better explain this, but how would one even begin to explain his lack of penis envy?
I do appreciate your making an effort to understand me, that is much more than I am usually granted.
Nero