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Androgynes and hormones

Started by El, May 10, 2009, 04:27:42 PM

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El

I want to start taking a testosterone blocker (getting the nerve up to go to the doctors about it) and i was wondering whether any of you lovely people hve any experience with taking hormones?
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RebeccaFog

Hi El,

   I'm pretty certain there are some who've done blocking. They should be around soon to answer you.

anyway, welcome.  I saw your photo, you look cute.  hopefully the blockers will keep you that way.

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Flan

Quote from: El on May 10, 2009, 04:27:42 PM
I want to start taking a testosterone blocker (getting the nerve up to go to the doctors about it) and i was wondering whether any of you lovely people hve any experience with taking hormones?
Right now I'm on the full kit and kaboodle, HRT wise. I would say it's helped alot and not just transistion wise. (I couldn't gain weight to a more healthy amount if my life depended on it)

Anti-androgens are, as you probably know already, intended to prevent testosterone from doing its thing, Going easy of the AA's should help prevent alot (but not all) of the T related issues from happening while eliminating the need for estrogen as an osteoporosis preventative.
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Janet_Girl

I am 13 months HRT and 8 months RLE.  In all this time I have never been happier.  I am progressing nicely, now that the nasty 'T' isn't doing it's damage.  Now if I could just get a little bigger on top and in my behind.  :-\

Janet
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Eva Marie

El

Welcome, and yes some of us have played around with hormones in one way or another  :)

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El

Thanks for the replies, i may ring my GP today
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KYLYKaHYT

Just thought I'd chime in here too. Yes, I've been on t-blockers and estrogen for eleven years now - and it's probably one of the best things I've ever done for myself. :)
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El

thats good to hear :)

still havent worked up the nerve, im such a pussy :(
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Autumn

A GP is probably not going to give you hormone treatment for gender identity issues. In fact, you usually have to have a few months of therapy before a letter is provided, and a GP probably does not understand the complexities of hormone therapy. If you chose to self medicate, you often fall into the realm of ethical compulsion under an endocrinologist, but that's not a decision to make lightly.
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Diane Elizabeth

I am interested in talking to my dr about T blockers.  My dr is with the VA.  So my question is this-  Has anyone taking T blockers going thru the VA for their meds?
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Kinkly

I've just started on Hormones again hope it goes better then last time last time the T blockers caused be major problems related to a drop in my blood pressure this time i'm starting with just eastrogyne (soz bout spelll)  although i've also been given "the pill" which has both t blockers and eastragin in the one tablet
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El

 :D gratz, hope it goes well for you this time :)
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dominik

About two years ago I took on my own a course of Estradiol, about two weeks, and what I found apart from lots of positive effects on my state of mind, was an unexpected series of improvements on my health. It eliminated almost completely a persistent rhinitis, back pain, pain on the shoulder, it enhanced concentration  and endless benefits came along.  This is something I'm investigating now with my GP (I've been today to him, has been a bit difficult to start the conversation, but he's such a nice and professional guy). I'm not ready to make a transition but I'd take about a third/quarter of the usual transition dose of Estrogens just to alleviate my health issues and improve my mood. It helps me a lot, a lot, and this might lead me further down somewhere, but I'm ok with who I am, I'm just trying to be healthy.
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kalina

Quote from: El on May 10, 2009, 04:27:42 PM
I want to start taking a testosterone blocker (getting the nerve up to go to the doctors about it) and i was wondering whether any of you lovely people hve any experience with taking hormones?

I've been on hormones since April 2003 and get yearly checkups and bloodwork done. HOWEVER, I didn't tell my doctor about my hormone therapy until March 2008 last year when I changed my primary care physician.
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dominik

Didn't your doctor notice you were on hormones for five years? I mean, didn't he ever asked you to take off your shirt?
Nice pic, beauty
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kalina

Quote from: DominiQ on July 15, 2009, 02:55:17 PM
Didn't your doctor notice you were on hormones for five years? I mean, didn't he ever asked you to take off your shirt?
Nice pic, beauty

Thanks :)

He did. In the first year of my hormone usage, I tried to hide it by saying "There's something wrong with me. I have lumps under my nipples!" They diagnosed that I had gynecomastia. That basically allowed me to explain away my hormone usage (just goes to show you can trick doctors into anything). When my breasts got reasonably big, I switched doctors. I now have one who is both a doctor and a friend and a friend in the LGBT community. Can't go wrong with that. My hormone usage is more legit now that he entered everything into my records. I got the 20 questions from him like everyone else contemplating HRT.

Post Merge: July 15, 2009, 04:19:05 PM

By the way, I've been through all sorts of hormones via self-medication. If I had to do it all over again, I'd go legit from the start. I've tried Premarin, Estrofem, Estrogel, Climara, and even the stuff the mods here don't want anyone endorsing.

So I don't endorse anything. I just know it works :)
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fingerscrossed

Quote from: Flan on May 10, 2009, 09:13:07 PM
Right now I'm on the full kit and kaboodle, HRT wise. I would say it's helped alot and not just transistion wise. (I couldn't gain weight to a more healthy amount if my life depended on it)

Anti-androgens are, as you probably know already, intended to prevent testosterone from doing its thing, Going easy of the AA's should help prevent alot (but not all) of the T related issues from happening while eliminating the need for estrogen as an osteoporosis preventative.

Hey guys, I'm new to this site and this is my fist time posting.
Flan, I consider myself androgyne and I am wondering how I can just stay on an AA without e, and not get osteoporosis risks.
Is there any way you can message me and help me figure this out ? Thanks.
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Jamie D

Old topic here!  Flan is very much active in the Forums. I will let them know about you post.

You will be able to use the personal messaging utility of the site after you have 15 posts.
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dentifrice

Hello,

I'm also considering myself Androgyne.
I'm 24yrs old guy from France (that explain my poor English).

I think I would have preferred being a girl but I born boy.
I was considering taking hormones and undergoing a full MtF transition but I wasn't sure I'll be satisfied that way. Probably better than being a guy but not enough for handling all the transitioning issues and pressures.

Finally, I'm not considering having a full transition.
I would like to father children. Not having to change my ID. Living has a male at work and not-close family.
But feminizing my body a little? To calm down the disphoria and easily pass has a girl sometime. Make my hair stop to fall, and body hairs stop to grow that quick. Smooth my skin a bit... Be more between boy and girl.

But reading the forum, It's seems quite complicated to "balance" the HRT for a partial-transition.
Having a very low dose of HRT, does the body stabilize "partially-transitioned" or does the transition be a total but more gradual ?
In other words, Is there a solution to feminize myself without having to go the full way in the long term ?

regards,
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Flan

Quote from: fingerscrossed on May 20, 2013, 10:59:09 PM
Quote from: Flan on May 10, 2009, 09:13:07 PM
Right now I'm on the full kit and kaboodle, HRT wise. I would say it's helped alot and not just transistion wise. (I couldn't gain weight to a more healthy amount if my life depended on it)

Anti-androgens are, as you probably know already, intended to prevent testosterone from doing its thing, Going easy of the AA's should help prevent alot (but not all) of the T related issues from happening while eliminating the need for estrogen as an osteoporosis preventative.

Hey guys, I'm new to this site and this is my fist time posting.
Flan, I consider myself androgyne and I am wondering how I can just stay on an AA without e, and not get osteoporosis risks.
Is there any way you can message me and help me figure this out ? Thanks.

To do just anti-androgen is a lot more difficult medically since would have to depend on blood work to find the sweet spot where testosterone doesn't dominate (at least not psychologically) yet it's not low enough for long term health effects which in otherwise health individuals, takes a couple years and is best seen by bone demineralization tests. The usual way to reduce this risk are vitamin d and calcium phosphate supplements. There will be still a limited amount of estrogen effects from low testosterone because of adrenal generation and of course low spermatogenesis (infertility).
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