Marking your gender on a goverment form?

[Chris968]

Hello everyone!

I am a 23 year old ftm.  I have been on T for over a year and I'm hoping to get top surgery soon but I don't have the money yet.

I went to college for music education but put off getting my certification for as long as I could but I just found out if I don't get it soon I will have to go back to college for more courses.  I picked up the form the other day and it specifically says "Check the appropriate box: Male or female".

My friend told me the actual certification doesn't have a gender marker on it.  I would just leave it blank or mark male on it but it is a government thing so they will know.  I just can't bring myself to mark 'female', plus on most forms I leave the gender blank, but this says I have to.

What are your thoughts?  Has anyone dealt with this before?

Thanks in advance,
Chris

[Genevieve Swann]

I'd just mark the one I felt best with. If anyone questioned it in the future,ooops. I was in a hurry. Sorry, get over it. I did.

[lisagurl]

Lawyer: After you have confirmed your legal sex use that in all documents.
Police: It is crime to use other sex than birthsex in official documents.

It is a crime when the police do not know the law.

[xsocialworker]

 YOU PUT YOUR LEGAL GENDER ON DOCUMENTS. THERE IS NO LAW REQUIRING YOUR BIRTH GENDER IF YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATE WAS CHANGED. HOWEVER< SOCIAL SECURITY CAN FIND OUT BY COMBING BACK FILES< BUT IF YOU CHANGED IT WITH THEM LEGALLY AFTER MEETING THE CURRENT REQUIREMENT OF PROOF OF SRS< YOU ARE WHAT YOU ARE NOW>

If you are dumb enough to get busted as a transwoman or man, the police will use whatever your ID says you are. I worked with enough cops to know.

Putting "transgender" on medical forms is actually for your own good. Until this was done, there was no way to know the HIV/AIDS infection rate. TG women were just being logged in as M or F at testing sites. There is no legal requirement to self -identify unless you want to.

[Janet_Girl]

My medical records, work records and drivers license all say "female".  SSA still says "Male", as do my b/c.  But for everything else I still marked "female".  That is how I identify myself.  And my carry letter states the same thing.

Janet

[Chris968]

My medical records, work records and drivers license all say "female".  SSA still says "Male", as do my b/c.  But for everything else I still marked "female".  That is how I identify myself.  And my carry letter states the same thing.

Janet

Do you think if I mark male and submit a copy of my carry letter that would be accepted?  I emailed my therapist and she said I would probably have to mark female since I still legally am.  I am going to call the LGBT legal hotline for Philadelphia tomorrow to make sure.

[Mister]

Put whatever the SSA has in their files.  If you haven't changed your gender with them, you gotta put female.  It totally sucks, but that's the law.

[Janet_Girl]

So true.  If questioned I tell but I am trying to defraud anyone.  But do seek legal advise.

Janet

[Mister]

Putting "transgender" on medical forms is actually for your own good. Until this was done, there was no way to know the HIV/AIDS infection rate. TG women were just being logged in as M or F at testing sites. There is no legal requirement to self -identify unless you want to.

This is the best thing you can do for not having any medical care covered under your health insurance.

DO NOT identify yourself as TG for medical care or you will not be covered for procedures, could potentially have the insurance co. demand reimbursement for procedures already paid and have your policy cancelled.

[Ms Bev]

Mark it male

[DarkLady]

I am legally female and I have had my SRS so I do not see any reasons to mark male or transgender in any form.

[Alyssa M.]

Mark it male

Mark it 8, Dude.

Okay, seriously -- if you're not sure, why not just call whatever agency you got the form from or email from a semi-anonymous account if you're worried about anonymity? My suspicion is that you'll have to mark it 'F' if that's what it says on your Social Secutiry card (or analogous national registry of workers applies if you're not in the U.S.).

edit -- either way, it reminds me of Smokey.

[Cindy]

From and Australian point of view a very interesting question.

When a person applies for a job we (officially and legally) cannot discriminate on sex, religon, age, race, whether children are in the picture, pregancy etc. We cannot question any of these in an interview. Hence whatever sex you mark on our forms are irrelevant.

In fact one of our latest recruits was fine, got the job replacing a person on maternity leave, to inform us after 2 weeks she was pregnant and was going to go on maternity leave when the babe was born, she didn't have a bump!

I routinely mark both male and female. I have never had a form sent back to me, including my passport. Which has a blank space for my gender. I've been too and from the USA four or five times on it and never been questioned.

My 5cents
Cindy

[Ms Bev]

Mark it male

Sorry.....that was a mistake.  I corrected it..........

[Arch]

I am legally female and I have had my SRS so I do not see any reasons to mark male or transgender in any form.

Um, what does this have to do with the question?