=[ Is she right?

[Jack12]

I told my mom that I've been looking stuff up on surgery and stuff and she just told me that I'll never be anything close to a man...Is that true? Will I never be that close? Or is she just tryna get me to change my mind? I was starting to feel so confident and better about this...then she just tore it down...

[Dennis]

With testosterone, you would be indistinguishable from a bio male while you are dressed. Our bottom surgery isn't good enough to pass a close inspection, but I hear from guys who've had it it's good enough for a straight locker room.

I passed 100% as male within 6 months of taking testosterone, and most of us do. So no, your mum is wrong.

Dennis

[LynnER]

Thanks for that Dennis,  I had jack in the chat and I didnt have enough knowledge on F2Ms to help him out enough in my mind 

Hey jack, remember you are more than welcome to come back anytime okay  *Hugs*

[Buffy]

I told my mom that I've been looking stuff up on surgery and stuff and she just told me that I'll never be anything close to a man...Is that true? Will I never be that close? Or is she just tryna get me to change my mind? I was starting to feel so confident and better about this...then she just tore it down...

Hi Jack...

We are what we want to be honey.... Our perception of ourselves is the important thing.

Sex and Gender are different and I was always "Female"in my mind with a biological Male body.

Like you, I guess my parents loved me and couldn't understand this need, desire (and destiny) that I had to be Female, It was confusing to them, although I was never discouraged.

There are many happy FTM's who live a normal life out in society. If that is your true path, then you will find happiness to.

I can't have periods, or give birth.... but does that make me any less a woman?

Rebecca

[tinkerbell]

I told my mom that I've been looking stuff up on surgery and stuff and she just told me that I'll never be anything close to a man...Is that true? Will I never be that close? Or is she just tryna get me to change my mind? I was starting to feel so confident and better about this...then she just tore it down...

I'm sorry to disagree with your mom, but she is WRONG.  Most of the FTM people I know pass as guys 100% of the time.  Testosterone is a very potent hormone and does miracles for the FTM person.  I'm sure that your family will not even recognize you after one year on testosterone.


tinkerbell

[Melissa]

Hi Jack...

Never say that on a plane.

Melissa

[Mario]

Jack,

      I pass 100% of the time. As Dennis and Tinkerbell has already said, testosterone will change you to the point of no doubt you are a guy in time. And a short period of time. Your mom is wrong, and she wants you to change your mind and that is why she said what she said. Follow your heart Jack.

                                                       Marco

[Kismet]

Follow the ambitions of the ram, not the whimsy dreams of the ewe.
Why be a sheep anyways...? They get shaved every summer.

Follow who you are, and if they cannot accept you for who you have chosen to be, they haven't the right to claim to love you.


(For reference - the first sentence there wasn't a bash at females, it was saying 'be a leader, not a follower' in um, sheepish, terms. Ohgawds forgive the pun.)

[nonie]

Hi Jack...

Never say that on a plane.

Melissa

Hahaha...  My pepsi just almost came out of my nose.

Jack, have you looked at the surgery photos on transster.com?  There are a lot of guys in there who, even with their shirts off, you can't tell were ever a girl at all.  And I'm not on T yet either, but I have seen photos and voice clips of people who are, and the transformations are amazing.

And Draeden...  Sheepish...  God, I love the horrible puns

[Melissa]

Hahaha...  My pepsi just almost came out of my nose.

Glad I could help.

Melissa

[Jack12]

Well like my mom keeps tellin me she talked to my cousin who has friends who have had the surgerys and they say you can't get a penis or anything that they just mess up your vagina and you still look like a girl but I have looked at the pics on trasster.com and after I did I felt so weightless and free like I was gonna have my chance to be me and I just hate the idea that I got rid of all my stress and felt so much better even though I have to wait and she just keeps saying things that tear all my happiness towards it away.

[nonie]

It's true that they can't give you a proper penis (which really sucks!) but medicine moves pretty fast.  There just have not been very many ftm surgeries done yet, comparatively, so it's reasonable to expect it to get better.  And who knows, before we get too old maybe they'll figure out how to do transplants or something

[HelenW]

Jack,

Your mom is correct in saying that you'll never be 100% male, the same way that I'll never be 100% female.  But should that fact keep us from trying to be the best men and women we can hope to be?  I don't think so.

Testosterone and surgery will make you look more male than you probably can imagine, more than estrogen will ever make me look female.  But our bodies? They're only the wrapper - the monopoly game piece - that we use to get around in life.  Our true expression of our innate gender is in how we act, how we react and how we deal with life and the people in it.

I may never be as close to feamle as I would want and I know I'll never be as male as society wants either so I'll just go with what is right for me.

helen

[Andrew]

Jack, everyone who's opposed to your transition will say this. They don't say it because it's true, because it's not--if you look at post-transition guys, you'll never tell the difference. They say it to tear you down and make you feel bad about yourself. My dad said it--I'd be a "pathetic male," I'd be a "freak," I'd be part of the gay/lesbian/trans "cult," I'd be living under the Burnside bridge and never have any friends and be emotionally crippled, etc.

DON'T LISTEN TO THEM.

The ONLY reason anyone says those things: to hurt your feelings. They want revenge for making them reconsider their feelings and beliefs about you. You'll make a fine guy--don't worry too much.

[Kismet]

My dad said it--I'd be a "pathetic male," I'd be a "freak," I'd be part of the gay/lesbian/trans "cult," I'd be living under the Burnside bridge and never have any friends and be emotionally crippled, etc.

Burnside bridge!
Wow, my mum told me to go and live there once on one of her apocalyptic rants about how I'm not worth anything or some such rubbish. Whereabouts do you float around this material plane?

[Andrew]

Near Portland, OR, but I'm going to college in western MA now.