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Man kills girlfriend of 2 years after learning she used to be a man

Started by Natasha, June 23, 2009, 05:19:22 PM

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Natasha

Man kills girlfriend of 2 years after learning she used to be a man

http://www.mosnews.com/weird/2009/06/23/transsexual/
6/23/09

A Russian man has killed the girlfriend that he lived with for two years after finding out that she once was a man.
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tekla

Patton was right, we should have nuked the USSR when we could have.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Dana Lane

Quote from: tekla on June 23, 2009, 05:20:16 PM
Patton was right, we should have nuked the USSR when we could have.

ugh...i hope you are just kidding.

This is such a sad story. Heartbreaking.
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tekla

Patton wasn't kidding.  Patton was NEVER kidding.  And, in the end, he was right.  Think of the money we would have saved.

And some things just need to be killed with fire.  Lots of fire.

However I do give them points for the "Best Russian Ladies" section right next to the story.  Had that guy only read that ad.

I mean we are Americans, we will attack and kill you on Christmas if that works.

FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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V M

Quote from: tekla on June 23, 2009, 06:38:20 PM

And some things just need to be killed with fire.  Lots of fire.

I mean we are Americans, we will attack and kill you on Christmas if that works.
Hmmmm, Someone is in a bit of a mood  :P I suppose if I said I had Russian ancestry, you'd want to kill me too  :P :P
The main things to remember in life are Love, Kindness, Understanding and Respect - Always make forward progress

Superficial fanny kissing friends are a dime a dozen, a TRUE FRIEND however is PRICELESS


- V M
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Virginia87106

Tekla-  You are such a kick!!!

I am so sick of hearing these stories, about how the man's reputation and heterosextivity were ruined by this knowledge.

I have a girlfriend, a post-op, and she is on all these dating sites and gets dates with all these men, and her policy is to tell them she is TS after a few dates, and 100% of them so far leave when they get the news. 

The foolishness of the male tribe is astounding  (transmen excluded, of course).
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NicholeW.

And don't overlook the "Miss Russia 2009 Nude Photos Published" or the "Russian To Receive $30K For Finding Baby Mammoth Body" articles either.
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tekla

I used to use the Christmas example, i.e.  "would you attack people and kill them on Christmas morning if you knew you could win?"  And the students were in absolute horror.  I mean, an outright slaughter on the day of the birth of the baby jesus.  But of course, that is the most famous moment of the Revolutionary War, Washington crossing the Delaware and all.  Oh, yeah, in all that patriotic fervor, and all, we often forget that what old George had in mind was the hired mercenaries (Hessians, the Blackwater of its day) being German, and thinking they were safe - what kind of idiot would cross an ice filled river in wooden boats, AT NIGHT? - got drunk off their ass on Xmas eve, making them easy prey on that glorious morning.  It was a turkey shoot as they say.

Of course, despite that, or maybe because of it, most of the Hessians stayed in the US after the war rather than going back to Germany, giving us such stupid city names as King of Prussia Pennsylvania.

And I don't think that Patton would have attacked the USSR, what he had in mind was doing a leapfrog on the Red Army - at that point far, far to the East of the Russian border, dependent on huge supply lines - and declaring victory.  It might have worked.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Witch of Hope

I'm tired of hearing such awful stories about violence against us. Here in Germany they was such a case several years ago. A man killed her girlfriend (she want to left him) and cut hr in several pices and put her death body into a trunk. As he was asked by the police, he said that he had kill her because she was once a man. What should this be? GAY PANIC? After 12 years they know each other and he visit her after her Sex change surgery? Germans are sometimes stupid, but not so stupid as you thought, murderer!
Right now I work on a PowerPoint presentation for a meeting in October for TG people in Berlin. It goes about TRANSPHOBIA.
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tekla

Yes, but all sorts of women, not just trans women, meet horrible ends, and by the way, a few guys too.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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V M

You're fairly well educated Tekla. So I am sure you know that most of Europe, including Russia is inter-related. It was the melting pot long before the U.S. came about. Why was the city of St.Petersburg created?
The main things to remember in life are Love, Kindness, Understanding and Respect - Always make forward progress

Superficial fanny kissing friends are a dime a dozen, a TRUE FRIEND however is PRICELESS


- V M
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NicholeW.

Quote from: Virginia Marie on June 23, 2009, 08:13:49 PM
You're fairly well educated Tekla. So I am sure you know that most of Europe, including Russia is inter-related. It was the melting pot long before the U.S. came about. Why was the city of St.Petersburg created?

Because Peter the Great needed a Baltic port for trade purposes and also wanted to learn to drain a swamp.
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Lisbeth

Quote from: Virginia Marie on June 23, 2009, 07:02:55 PM
Hmmmm, Someone is in a bit of a mood  :P I suppose if I said I had Russian ancestry, you'd want to kill me too  :P :P

I don't generally consider advocating genocide to be "a bit of a mood."
"Anyone who attempts to play the 'real transsexual' card should be summarily dismissed, as they are merely engaging in name calling rather than serious debate."
--Julia Serano

http://juliaserano.blogspot.com/2011/09/transsexual-versus-transgender.html
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NicholeW.

Quote from: Lisbeth on June 23, 2009, 11:35:49 PM
I don't generally consider advocating genocide to be "a bit of a mood."

You trying to put the kee-bosh on all the fun, Lisbeth? :)
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Lisbeth

"Anyone who attempts to play the 'real transsexual' card should be summarily dismissed, as they are merely engaging in name calling rather than serious debate."
--Julia Serano

http://juliaserano.blogspot.com/2011/09/transsexual-versus-transgender.html
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Alyx.

Quote from: Virginia87106 on June 23, 2009, 07:03:07 PMI have a girlfriend, a post-op, and she is on all these dating sites and gets dates with all these men, and her policy is to tell them she is TS after a few dates, and 100% of them so far leave when they get the news.
...*sigh*
If you do not agree to my demands... TOO LATE
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GinaDouglas

Quote from: tekla on June 23, 2009, 05:20:16 PM
Patton was right, we should have nuked the USSR when we could have.

We didn't have nukes yet, and Patton probably didn't know they were in the pipeline.  But he probably was right.
It's easier to change your sex and gender in Iran, than it is in the United States.  Way easier.

Please read my novel, Dragonfly and the Pack of Three, available on Amazon - and encourage your local library to buy it too! We need realistic portrayals of trans people in literature, for all our sakes
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Britney_413

Clearly this is a sick murder but then advocating nuking millions of innocent people is even far more ridiculous, childish, and lunatic. Plenty of these stories also happen in the U.S. My recommendation for post-op TSs who want to enter heterosexual relationships is to be up front in the beginning. Additionally, and this goes for anyone, consider the quality of the person you are dating and re-consider if they are demonstrating violent tendencies.
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Mister

QuoteMy recommendation for post-op TSs who want to enter heterosexual relationships is to be up front in the beginning.

Why should someone post op have to? 
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Amy85

My attempt at an objective argument is:
Post-op girls should be up front in the beginning because that information is obviously very important to a lot of men out there. If they are bothered so deeply by a post-op's past then some could argue that it is unethical to withhold something that is very likely to so greatly bother them.
Of course the counter-argument of "it's none of their damn business!" is also very valid  ;)

What I believe personally is that it is just plain safer to disclose that information sooner rather than later since I would think that a negative reaction would be far stronger, and more likely to be violent, if the relationship has progressed for quite a while. The man would then feel deceived on top of all the other things running through his head, and that is just adding gasoline to the fire.
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