Trans Binary vs. Non-Binary

[Silver]

Ay, I guess I do need to explain. I am not saying it is our choice to be transsexual. Once a transsexual (as opposed to an androgyne) has established their transsexuality to themselves and decides they want to get surgery, it's likely not "I think it'd be awful cool to have a vagina" it is more out of a need to fit in as a woman rather than a ->-bleeped-<- or "chick with a dick" or some sort of odd genderless person.

Not saying that all of the "gender dissatisfied" in general would hate it either. As far as I know the goal is usually to be as close to the inner idea of self as possible and for a transsexual, that's usually the other side. All others who do not want to change are still "real" and I'm not trying to put any of them down either.

SilverFang

[bigrift]

I've decided deep down that I am probably (I'm never entirely sure) that I am a trans-woman lesbian, and while I do long to be "loved" in the sense of being a lesbian, I find it more important to be able to bring a sense of "womanly" love to a non-lesbian women, so while I truly would identify as "binary" female, I stick to the "non-binary" because in the end I will be happier. I honestly don't give a flying ->-bleeped-<- what genitalia is involved in love...love is love, right? And having a vagoo would mean I would have to put A LOT of effort into being able to be a "passable" woman, and I'm too damn lazy to do makeup and shave frequently enough. Not to mention I'm the type to shave everything, minus my left leg. So a more "non-binary" gender identity makes sense for my personality and ideals. I think my "androgyny" is caused because I was socialized as male, identified as female in the end, so had a good mixture of both male+female characteristics. Binary androgyne perhaps?

[Kinkly]

I don't want to be a freak but I NEED to be me. most people would probably consider a Woman with a Beard a freak as far as I can tell that is where I am transitioning to I don't know if I'll ever get down there surgery I don't like down there but I don't hate it either

[GamerJames]

I'm just curious, I noticed that there are a lot of MTF and FTM in the Transgender communites but I'm just curious, is one of the reasons why people get surgery is to pass through the Gender Binary System or is it more of their personal choice to get the surgery?

I know that this is kind of a sensitive subject and I do appoligize. I'm but curious.

It's been said, but I'll add my viewpoint in anyways.

For me, transitioning is not about "passing through the Gender Binary System", I just *am* a part of the Gender Binary System. I'm not an androgyne, despite having a well-rounded personality that spans from feminine traits to masculine ones. I do not feel that I could hover in the middle somewhere, not that there's anything wrong with that, it's just not who I *am*. My gender is male, my sex is (currently) female, and all I'm trying to do in transitioning is to make those two match.

Some people don't fit on one end of the spectrum or the other, some do. Some people don't want/need/whatever their gender and sex to match, some people do.

_{(Please note that I'm not saying that having feminine and masculine traits does or does not make one androgyne or anything else. I'm also not saying that one has to have both to have a well-rounded personality, you can be totally masculine or totally feminine and still have a well-rounded personality. I also reserve the right to cover my butt about anything else in that post, as NONE of it was meant as a judgment of anyone else, only a reflection of my own experience/identity. Sorry for the brutally long disclaimer, but I'm wary of stepping on toes since this isn't "my" board.)}