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Every third day the murder of a trans person is reported

Started by Shana A, July 21, 2009, 09:46:34 AM

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Shana A

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Every third day the murder of a trans person is reported

http://questioningtransphobia.wordpress.com/2009/07/21/every-third-day-the-murder-of-a-trans-person-is-reported/

    Trans Murder Monitoring Project reveals more than 200 reported murders of trans persons in the last 1 1/2 years

    In April 2009 the international NGO Transgender Europe (TGEU) in cooperation with the multilingual Online-Magazine "Liminalis — A Journal for Sex/Gender Emancipation and Resistance" started a new project, the /Trans Murder Monitoring Project/, which focuses on systematically reporting murdered trans people on a worldwide scale.

    The very preliminary results of the first step of this project have revealed a total of 204 cases of reported murders of trans people world wide in the last 1 1/2 years. 121 cases of murdered trans people have been reported in 2008. From January to June 2009 already 83 cases of murdered trans people have been reported.
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Lisbeth

It's been pretty clear for awhile that transphobia is on the rise.
"Anyone who attempts to play the 'real transsexual' card should be summarily dismissed, as they are merely engaging in name calling rather than serious debate."
--Julia Serano

http://juliaserano.blogspot.com/2011/09/transsexual-versus-transgender.html
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Julie Marie

And there are still people who don't think there are hate crimes.

Julie
When you judge others, you do not define them, you define yourself.
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tekla

It's been pretty clear for awhile that transphobia is on the rise.

You may think so, but that does not account for the rise in numbers, where other factors may well be playing into it far more.

First, as the number of transpersons rises, so to will any aggregate statistics involving them.

Second, and more importantly, a rise in reporting of crimes may in fact - and often is - be the result of greater public awareness, and might even be the result of the crime occurring less.

Third, it might not be a trans issue at all.  The number one spot for these murders seems to be Rio, where the murder rate for the general population is pretty much off the hook.

From the U.S. State Department,
Crime throughout Brazil has reached very high levels.  The Brazilian police and the Brazilian press report that the rate of crime continues to rise, especially in the major urban centers – though it is also spreading in rural areas.  Brazil's murder rate is more than four times higher than that of the U.S.  Rates for other crimes are similarly high.  The majority of crimes are not solved.  There were rapes reported by American citizens in 2008.

There are about 21 murders a day in Rio, perhaps the most dangerous city in the world, so that's about 8,000 a year.  55 trans persons, in a very ->-bleeped-<- city, many involved in crime, is less than 1% of the murders.    So that's a low rate in fact.
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NicholeW.

Quote from: Julie Marie on July 21, 2009, 11:22:49 AM
And there are still people who don't think there are hate crimes.

Julie


Yes there are those people, but the ones I read don't usually say there are no hate crimes, just that the judicial system already provides murder-punishments and there is no need for overkill.

I appreciate what Queen Emily and Monica do at questioningtransphobia and what TGEU is doing with this map and the enhanced statistics.

But, I have to admit that I too sometimes wonder what good an enhanced punishment for murdering someone else who is a minority really does to deter that crime.

There is much to be done about prosecution and jury decision-making as well. Although the point of the latter always escapes me: am I to instruct the jury that they cannot find, for instance, that Teish was actually a first-degree or second-degree murder rather than a manslaughter? Not sure how to do that effectively and allow a jury to deliberate.

I have known people who were murdered and people who committed murder and although there were death-penalities in place in the states where they committed their acts not one of them was so sentenced and I doubt seriously that those who did the murders thought long and hard about the death-penalty being levied on them before they used their knife or gun to commit the crimes.

   
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Julie Marie

Quote from: tekla on July 21, 2009, 11:26:16 AM
There are about 21 murders a day in Rio, perhaps the most dangerous city in the world, so that's about 8,000 a year.  55 trans persons, in a very ->-bleeped-<- city, many involved in crime, is less than 1% of the murders.    So that's a low rate in fact.

But what percent of the population of Rio is trans? Estimates say MTF trans people are 1 in 11,000, FTM 1 in 30,000. That would mean there would be about 900 MTFs in Rio which means if 55 are murdered that would represent a 6% murder rate. And if it is a "very ->-bleeped-<- city" and that means double what is normal that still leaves a 3% murder rate. And that's just for MTFs.

Every statistic I've ever seen showing the murder rate of trans people is substantially higher than the local average when you take into consideration the percentage of the population trans people represent.

Julie
When you judge others, you do not define them, you define yourself.
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DarkLady

Quote from: Nichole on July 21, 2009, 11:30:33 AM
Yes there are those people, but the ones I read don't usually say there are no hate crimes, just that the judicial system already provides murder-punishments and there is no need for overkill.
I appreciate what Queen Emily and Monica do at questioningtransphobia and what TGEU is doing with this map and the enhanced statistics.

But, I have to admit that I too sometimes wonder what good an enhanced punishment for murdering someone else who is a minority really does to deter that crime.

There is much to be done about prosecution and jury decision-making as well. Although the point of the latter always escapes me: am I to instruct the jury that they cannot find, for instance, that Teish was actually a first-degree or second-degree murder rather than a manslaughter? Not sure how to do that effectively and allow a jury to deliberate.

I have known people who were murdered and people who committed murder and although there were death-penalities in place in the states where they committed their acts not one of them was so sentenced and I doubt seriously that those who did the murders thought long and hard about the death-penalty being levied on them before they used their knife or gun to commit the crimes.



But that is not going to solve the fact that some crimes may have better chanche to get treated fairly in cases hate crime laws exists. Hate crime laws are also a  signal from society that all people should be protected under the law. Kansas senator put amendment that passed to the new hate crime law to ''protect first amendment rights'' probably including the right to speak that ''sinners'' should get what they deserve etc.
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NicholeW.

Quote from: DarkLady on July 21, 2009, 01:43:33 PM
But that is not going to solve the fact that some crimes may have better chanche to get treated fairly in cases hate crime laws exists. Hate crime laws are also a  signal from society that all people should be protected under the law. Kansas senator put amendment that passed to the new hate crime law to ''protect first amendment rights'' probably including the right to speak that ''sinners'' should get what they deserve etc.

So let me get this right, please. You found that the first-degree manslaughter w/ hate crime was the "treated fairly" verdict in the Leteisha Green trial?

Given the facts. You believe that the best and most proper verdict was first-degree manslaughter w/ an hate crime attached?

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DarkLady

I am not familiar enough with Lateishha Green case but those who killed Gwen Araujo did not get what they deserved.
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Mister

anyone have a clue as to why there's only been 1 or two FTM murders that anyone knows of v. so many MTF?
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lisagurl

Quoteanyone have a clue as to why there's only been 1 or two FTM murders that anyone knows of v. so many MTF?

Perhaps sex work has something to do with it. Not many FTM are prostitutes or get murdered.
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Mister

Quote from: lisagurl on July 21, 2009, 07:06:58 PM
Perhaps sex work has something to do with it. Not many FTM are prostitutes or get murdered.

So maybe MTFs ought to take a clue and get out of the business.
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Lisa Harney

Quote from: Mister on July 21, 2009, 07:10:17 PM
So maybe MTFs ought to take a clue and get out of the business.

Blaming the victim is oh so edgy, don't you think?

Also, while you're being edgy you should check out employment rates and survival sex work.
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Mister

I live in San Francisco.  I'm aware of unemployment AND of survival sex work.

So why don't you explain how in a city with so many laws barring transgender discrimination there are a TON of MTF sex workers?
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Lisa Harney

Quote from: Mister on July 30, 2009, 06:54:19 PM
I live in San Francisco.  I'm aware of unemployment AND of survival sex work.

So why don't you explain how in a city with so many laws barring transgender discrimination there are a TON of MTF sex workers?

I have no clue what an "MTF" is, but I'll assume you mean "trans women."

As for why, I guess that these statistics may contribute:

QuoteThis work all began two years ago when the Transgender Law Center and Pride at Work met with the SF Bay Guardian about transgender unemployment. The Bay Guardian and the Transgender Law Center decided to do a survey of employment in the transgender community. The results were somewhat shocking: 75 percent of transgender people in the Bay Area don't have full-time employment. Equally shocking: 58 percent make less than $15,333 a year. Unemployment, underemployment, and poverty plague the trans community.

I know, it's shocking, right? That anti-discrimination laws don't actually prevent discrimination?

And it doesn't matter - not all trans women who are murdered are sex workers, although many are profiled as such because of racism and trans misogyny.
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Autumn

Every third day the murder of a trans person is reported, but how many people total die in those 3 days?

How many of the MTF were just targeted because they were women or appeared to be a female target?
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Lisa Harney

Quote from: Autumn on July 30, 2009, 07:00:53 PM
Every third day the murder of a trans person is reported, but how many people total die in those 3 days?

How many of the MTF were just targeted because they were women or appeared to be a female target?

The obvious conclusion to draw here is that trans women are at risk for being trans and for being women, which increases the chances of experiencing violence, and doesn't mitigate it.
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Lisa Harney

Quote from: Nichole on July 30, 2009, 07:09:53 PM
QFT, Lisa.

Is that accurate? Or are you just bein' par-ti-cu-lar again? :)

I'm just being par - ti -cu -lar.  >:-)
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Lisa Harney

Quote from: Nichole on July 30, 2009, 07:17:28 PM
O good, because I was thinkin' ... :laugh:

Slow day at QT today and ya decided to bump the post or what? ;) Nice to have you drop in.

Not so much a slow day as I was checking trackbacks. I've had many many slow days lately, but I've actually been more online today than usual.
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lisagurl

Quotewhich increases the chances of experiencing violence, and doesn't mitigate it.

And our soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan that die everyday, where and who they are do not mitigate the loss.
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