Fav Anime of all time

[Christy Lee]

Naruto...

I love everything to do with it...... so  amazing, i still have like 6 seasons left of Shippuden but as i have been watching Naruto as a whole for years i am in no rush to finish it 

-Dont skip fillers

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-Dont skip fillers

But... but... but... they're so bad. (Though I admit, I watch one piece filler just to draw it out as much as possible.)

[Christy Lee]

I didnt really like One Piece

and Its an OCD so i cant skip them LOL but except for when the art is really horrible in Naruto  i dont actually mind watching the fillers, ive seen all of part 1 and up to s15 of Shippuden

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I didnt really like One Piece

and Its an OCD so i cant skip them LOL but except for when the art is really horrible in Naruto  i dont actually mind watching the fillers, ive seen all of part 1 and up to s15 of Shippuden

Just curious, how far did you get into OP? Almost everyone has trouble making it through the first 25 or so episodes, then a certain scene grabs them, the series slows down again, then just takes off running, and by the time people get to episode 250 they wonder how they ever lived without it. It's definitely a really slow build at the start, and not even just by modern standards. And while I thought it was definitely charming and fun initially, it was nothing compared to what it would become. The early episodes to the later episodes is like watching Spongebob morph into Game of Thrones. (Oh, also, it's one series that dub is 100% completely not an option. It just doesn't translate well in terms of dialogue and voices at all. Even people who like the dub for whatever reason watch the original and are shocked at how much of a difference it makes. I mean, I'm anti-dub in general, but this is an extreme case. )

Unfortunately, it's hard to pick up now because it is so monstrously long and the first part of the series doesn't have that instant grab. While Naruto wasn't exactly starting with a bang compared to later stuff, it still managed to at least setup most of the cast by episode 30. One Piece... not so much. Most comparable to HxH in the ramp up from innocent beginnings to pure insanity, but even it has the series going full force a million times faster than OP.

Sorry, ranted there for a moment, I'm a total One Piece fangirl.

[Christy Lee]

Just curious, how far did you get into OP? Almost everyone has trouble making it through the first 25 or so episodes, then a certain scene grabs them, the series slows down again, then just takes off running, and by the time people get to episode 250 they wonder how they ever lived without it. It's definitely a really slow build at the start, and not even just by modern standards. And while I thought it was definitely charming and fun initially, it was nothing compared to what it would become. The early episodes to the later episodes is like watching Spongebob morph into Game of Thrones. (Oh, also, it's one series that dub is 100% completely not an option. It just doesn't translate well in terms of dialogue and voices at all. Even people who like the dub for whatever reason watch the original and are shocked at how much of a difference it makes. I mean, I'm anti-dub in general, but this is an extreme case. )

Unfortunately, it's hard to pick up now because it is so monstrously long and the first part of the series doesn't have that instant grab. While Naruto wasn't exactly starting with a bang compared to later stuff, it still managed to at least setup most of the cast by episode 30. One Piece... not so much. Most comparable to HxH in the ramp up from innocent beginnings to pure insanity, but even it has the series going full force a million times faster than OP.

Sorry, ranted there for a moment, I'm a total One Piece fangirl.

I guess i got up to about episode 20 or soo? and one of the things you said about the dub of One Piece i did find it a little off putting as i am a 100% dubs girl, i find subs too distracting and yeah i know im missing out on some series but its the principal of the thing, every anime ive ever seen has been in dub form, occaisonally while Shippuden was still going strong, i would skip ahead to where the sub version was, it just felt wrong to me LOL having only experienced Naruto in dub form, and we'll dubs in general

Another thing is, I was hooked on Naruto by the first episode, i felt i could somewhat relate to Naruto abit, with his isolation i guess, i remember watching it the first and not only looking at that but like how cool is this, it has Ninjas (i mean c'mon Ninja's > Pirates :p) it has magic and other things and i just loved the villains more on Naruto, thats the thing with One Piece, it felt too case of the week sort of thing for me, i preferred the more serialized nature of Naruto,

IM OK with a slow build up, i did suffer through Luke Cage LOL, but One Piece yeah it failed to grab my attention, i do remember sort of crushing on Roronora Zoro tho a little bit

Spongebob into Game of Thrones LOL

[DawnOday]

Astroboy circa 1968

[Sarah_P]

Astroboy circa 1968

Oooh! Good choice. I love the classics. The original Mazinger Z is still one of my favorites of all time.

[DawnOday]

Oooh! Good choice. I love the classics. The original Mazinger Z is still one of my favorites of all time.

Actually if you think about it Mighty Mouse was also Anime.

[Artesia]

Actually if you think about it Mighty Mouse was also Anime.

I've tried to go back and watch some old animated series........bad plan!

He-man/She-Ra were horrible.  Transformers was okay, but the linguistic choices, ugh.  G.I joe, OMG laughably bad.  I know I liked them in the 80's, but they did not age well.  At least the Flintstones and Jetsons are still funny.

[Sarah_P]

I've tried to go back and watch some old animated series........bad plan!

He-man/She-Ra were horrible.  Transformers was okay, but the linguistic choices, ugh.  G.I joe, OMG laughably bad.  I know I liked them in the 80's, but they did not age well.  At least the Flintstones and Jetsons are still funny.

Sadly, I have to agree. Voltron was HORRIBLE. Actually, Go Lion, the original Japanese version of it (the lion portion, anyway) was pretty bad on it's own. Dairugger XV (the show vehicle Voltron came from) was actually really good, though. Yeah, He-man & She-Ra were really bad. I do still like Transformers, though....
I also recently re-watched Thundarr the Barbarian, and it was actually pretty good! 

[DawnOday]

Worst of all time. Diver Dan

[Artesia]

Sadly, I have to agree. Voltron was HORRIBLE. Actually, Go Lion, the original Japanese version of it (the lion portion, anyway) was pretty bad on it's own. Dairugger XV (the show vehicle Voltron came from) was actually really good, though. Yeah, He-man & She-Ra were really bad. I do still like Transformers, though....
I also recently re-watched Thundarr the Barbarian, and it was actually pretty good! 

Where did you  find Thundarr the Barbarian?  I remember watching it, but haven't found it on any of the channels I get or on Netflix. 

I, also, still like Transformers; just some of the word choices, and acting, was...not so good.  Much like how I mince words.

The new Voltron is pretty good, and a show called Troll Hunter.  Both are on Netflix.  I tried a few other, but those two I like the best, of what's available.

I also rather enjoy Sword Art Online.  I'm hoping there is a season three.

[Sarah_P]

Where did you  find Thundarr the Barbarian?  I remember watching it, but haven't found it on any of the channels I get or on Netflix. 

I, also, still like Transformers; just some of the word choices, and acting, was...not so good.  Much like how I mince words.

The new Voltron is pretty good, and a show called Troll Hunter.  Both are on Netflix.  I tried a few other, but those two I like the best, of what's available.

I also rather enjoy Sword Art Online.  I'm hoping there is a season three.

Got the DVD set on Amazon for like, $7 or something. I need to pick up the Pirates of Dark Water set eventually.
I love the new Voltron, except for the music- not exciting enough for an action show (often while watching it I long for the original Voltron theme). Still haven't watched Troll Hunter, I added it to my list because it's made by Guillermo del Toro. I also loved the Thundercats remake, and am still mad it got cancelled. Such a good story, and we'll never know where it was going to go.

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Got the DVD set on Amazon for like, $7 or something. I need to pick up the Pirates of Dark Water set eventually.
I love the new Voltron, except for the music- not exciting enough for an action show (often while watching it I long for the original Voltron theme). Still haven't watched Troll Hunter, I added it to my list because it's made by Guillermo del Toro. I also loved the Thundercats remake, and am still mad it got cancelled. Such a good story, and we'll never know where it was going to go.

Pirates of Dark Water was awesome. That series was ahead of its time being a western series with heavy anime story arc aspirations, which while pretty stock and trade now was a sure rarity then. (And the other more story centric animated series in the 90s tended to be existing franchises like with the start of the DCAU, so an original IP stood out to me. Sort of an early Avatar.)

You know what I always thought was surprisingly good? The Johnny Quest remake in the 90s. One of the earlier "remakes" I can think of (I guess technically it was a sequel).

[Artesia]

Got the DVD set on Amazon for like, $7 or something. I need to pick up the Pirates of Dark Water set eventually.
I love the new Voltron, except for the music- not exciting enough for an action show (often while watching it I long for the original Voltron theme). Still haven't watched Troll Hunter, I added it to my list because it's made by Guillermo del Toro. I also loved the Thundercats remake, and am still mad it got cancelled. Such a good story, and we'll never know where it was going to go.

I'd forgotten about Pirates of Dark Water.  I remember liking that show as well.  I'm in the same boat with the Thundercats remake, but I think it died because it was such a huge deviation from the original that the fans killed it.  Some times, nostalgia, can kill something that could be great because it wasn't the same.

Not an Anime, but does anyone remember Space Above and Beyond?  Another series that had a great story, that was cancelled to soon.

[Sarah_P]

Pirates of Dark Water was awesome. That series was ahead of its time being a western series with heavy anime story arc aspirations, which while pretty stock and trade now was a sure rarity then. (And the other more story centric animated series in the 90s tended to be existing franchises like with the start of the DCAU, so an original IP stood out to me. Sort of an early Avatar.)

You know what I always thought was surprisingly good? The Johnny Quest remake in the 90s. One of the earlier "remakes" I can think of (I guess technically it was a sequel).

I'd forgotten about that one! Yeah, it was pretty good.

I'd forgotten about Pirates of Dark Water.  I remember liking that show as well.  I'm in the same boat with the Thundercats remake, but I think it died because it was such a huge deviation from the original that the fans killed it.  Some times, nostalgia, can kill something that could be great because it wasn't the same.

Not an Anime, but does anyone remember Space Above and Beyond?  Another series that had a great story, that was cancelled to soon.

Sounds familiar, but I can't recall anything of it. On that subject, another series that was really good yet cancelled was Tron: Uprising. Great writing and great voice work (Elijah Wood as the main character, with Bruce Boxleitner as Tron of course).

Back on the anime track, I just haven't watched much lately. Mainly because I haven't had any interest in most of the new series in the last few years. Thankfully I have a HUGE backlog of classics. Thanks to the DVD release last summer, I'll be watching Super Beast Machine God Dancougar (I love that full name!) again soon (as soon as I finish my run through Babylon 5). I'd seen it in the 90s when it got released on VHS, and I even imported the Japanese DVD sets since I never imagined anyone would pick up the license in the US again.

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Back on the anime track, I just haven't watched much lately. Mainly because I haven't had any interest in most of the new series in the last few years. Thankfully I have a HUGE backlog of classics. Thanks to the DVD release last summer, I'll be watching Super Beast Machine God Dancougar (I love that full name!) again soon (as soon as I finish my run through Babylon 5). I'd seen it in the 90s when it got released on VHS, and I even imported the Japanese DVD sets since I never imagined anyone would pick up the license in the US again.

I used to watch the first few episodes of pretty much every series as they came out each season, now I don't have time to watch much of anything. And I agree, last few years in particular not much has caught my eye. Notable exceptions though for Seven Deadly Sins and Made in Abyss, which I just finished up the anime of (only covers half of current manga) and was absolutely fantastic. (And seriously, seriously screwed up. Like Berserk level screwed up, if not perhaps contextually more so because everything happens to children. Seemed to be last year's critical darling so gave it a shot.)

[Sarah_P]

I used to watch the first few episodes of pretty much every series as they came out each season, now I don't have time to watch much of anything. And I agree, last few years in particular not much has caught my eye. Notable exceptions though for Seven Deadly Sins and Made in Abyss, which I just finished up the anime of (only covers half of current manga) and was absolutely fantastic. (And seriously, seriously screwed up. Like Berserk level screwed up, if not perhaps contextually more so because everything happens to children. Seemed to be last year's critical darling so gave it a shot.)

I remember watching the original Berserk series back in the 90s, and liked it at first, until it got...., well, royally screwed up. Speaking of seriously horrific things happening to children, I've been trying to work up the courage to watch Ideon (1980), aka Legendary Giant God Ideon aka Space Runaway Ideon. Made by "kill 'em all" Tomino (creator of Gundam, before he chilled out in the late 90s).

The last few series I actually really enjoyed were Log Horizon, Space Battleship Yamato 2199, Robotics;Notes, and Star Driver. Even the new Macross (Delta) was disappointing (but Kawamori's gotten weird in recent years). I watched quite a bit of Dragon Ball Super, but lost interest once the Future Trunks arc was done (actually, I lost interest before that - it's gotten too far away from what the DB manga was - an over-the-top parody).

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I remember watching the original Berserk series back in the 90s, and liked it at first, until it got...., well, royally screwed up. Speaking of seriously horrific things happening to children, I've been trying to work up the courage to watch Ideon (1980), aka Legendary Giant God Ideon aka Space Runaway Ideon. Made by "kill 'em all" Tomino (creator of Gundam, before he chilled out in the late 90s).

The last few series I actually really enjoyed were Log Horizon, Space Battleship Yamato 2199, Robotics;Notes, and Star Driver. Even the new Macross (Delta) was disappointing (but Kawamori's gotten weird in recent years). I watched quite a bit of Dragon Ball Super, but lost interest once the Future Trunks arc was done (actually, I lost interest before that - it's gotten too far away from what the DB manga was - an over-the-top parody).

I've never seen Ideon and don't really know much about it. Is it Berserk-esque grotesque or just one of those unbelievably tragic series?

I haven't been able to watch Macross since Macross Zero went off the rails with the fastest fall from grace I have ever witnessed. Absolutely brilliant first episode(which at the time was probably the most beautiful thing ever animated), that immediately devolved into the most generic anime pure nonsense I've ever seen in the second episode. I was obsessed with Robotech as a kid, so it saddened me greatly when I finally got a chance to watch a new Macross series as it was released that it went so wrong. (Sort of like the Star Wars prequels I guess.)

I sometimes wonder though if it's just me being nostalgic. I remember how much I loved series in the late 90s and early 2000s, and it's like... nothing in the past 10 years or so can really compare. All the masterpieces from Bones (what have they even been doing lately? I haven't heard about them in forever) alone... But yet a ton of people seem to watch all the newer stuff and love it just fine. Am I just getting old? 

[Sarah_P]

I've never seen Ideon and don't really know much about it. Is it Berserk-esque grotesque or just one of those unbelievably tragic series?

I haven't been able to watch Macross since Macross Zero went off the rails with the fastest fall from grace I have ever witnessed. Absolutely brilliant first episode(which at the time was probably the most beautiful thing ever animated), that immediately devolved into the most generic anime pure nonsense I've ever seen in the second episode. I was obsessed with Robotech as a kid, so it saddened me greatly when I finally got a chance to watch a new Macross series as it was released that it went so wrong. (Sort of like the Star Wars prequels I guess.)

I sometimes wonder though if it's just me being nostalgic. I remember how much I loved series in the late 90s and early 2000s, and it's like... nothing in the past 10 years or so can really compare. All the masterpieces from Bones (what have they even been doing lately? I haven't heard about them in forever) alone... But yet a ton of people seem to watch all the newer stuff and love it just fine. Am I just getting old? 

Ideon's an incredibly tragic series. And it only gets worse at the end...

I actually liked Macross Frontier. There were a few things in it that I was like '...Huh?', but overall it was pretty good. The ending was beautifully animated, especially in the movie retelling (plus a brief cameo from a pilot from another Macross series).

Well, it's not that we're getting old, but that our tastes are formed by the shows of our time, and anime is one of those mediums that's always changing. Though it does go through some repeating phases, I can track the rise & decline & rise again of the giant robot genre, and I see it all comes around again.
Bones is still around. They made Star Driver, which I liked. They also did Space Dandy, which I enjoyed at first but quickly lost interest in, and My Hero Academia, which I've not watched but heard a lot of people enjoy.