Susan's Place Logo

News:

Please be sure to review The Site terms of service, and rules to live by

Main Menu

Homosexuals are as dangerous as Nazis?

Started by Kara, July 31, 2009, 05:40:59 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Kara

I really like change.org sometimes, it exposes me to all sorts of idiotic nonsense. Here's one example:

http://gayrights.change.org/blog/view/family_group_compares_homosexuality_to_nazism

Basically, a right-wing "family group" said the church of America has to fight homosexualism as though they were fighting German Nazis.

The statement may be somewhat ironic. I was able to find this:

http://mythandhope.blogspot.com/2008/04/hitlers-values-and-christian-right.html

If you don't feel like reading the whole thing, check this out:

Quote"Pastors who had placed the swastika on the altar, next to the cross, claimed the swastika was a key element in the religious life of the congregants. Church officials who placed the swastika on the masthead of their church newspapers meant thereby to proclaim their support for the regime."

  •  

Sandy

The blog entry was repulsive that's for sure.

But the comments on the entry are precious.  Most of them called her out as extreme by any Christians point of view.  And there was a wonderful exchange where the commenters got into it with a fundie about whether or not they should kill the guy eating lobster on Sunday acording to Levitican law.

-Sandy
Out of the darkness, into the light.
Following my bliss.
I am complete...
  •  

Kara

Quote from: Sandy on July 31, 2009, 06:31:12 PM
The blog entry was repulsive that's for sure.

But the comments on the entry are precious.  Most of them called her out as extreme by any Christians point of view.  And there was a wonderful exchange where the commenters got into it with a fundie about whether or not they should kill the guy eating lobster on Sunday acording to Levitican law.

-Sandy

I must have missed something...I didn't see anything talking about lobsters. :-p
  •  

Sandy

Quote from: Kara on July 31, 2009, 06:39:35 PM
I must have missed something...I didn't see anything talking about lobsters. :-p

I paraphrased.  There is the law in Leviticus prohibiting the eating of shellfish as well as the prohibition of working on the sabbath.

It's after the post about how much the poster should charge for selling his daughter into slavery and whether or not Canadians could be kept as slaves.

-Sandy
Out of the darkness, into the light.
Following my bliss.
I am complete...
  •  

Janet_Girl

Nationalism, fear of another misunderstand group, blaming that group for the problems of the nation, calling for the round up of that group so they can be control and eliminated?  Sound familiar.

Homosexuals are not trying to take over thru fear and intimidation.  Maybe they should re look at rhe causes for the the rise of the National Socialist German Workers' Party.  Maybe they should just call it the National American Judeo-Christian Party.

I am not anti-Christian, but much of what is preached is not only anti-equal rights, but very Homophobic.  This is what their Christian love is all about?   I seriously doubt that Christ would approve.  But then I am not Christ, but he did teach love.

Love is patient; love is kind
and envies no one.
Love is never boastful, nor conceited, nor rude;
never selfish, not quick to take offense.
There is nothing love cannot face;
there is no limit to its faith,
its hope, and endurance.
In a word, there are three things
that last forever: faith, hope, and love;
but the greatest of them all is love.

-- 1 Corinthians 13

IMHO,
Janet
  •  

LordKAT

My bible says charity and not love but I agree Janet.
  •  

Janet_Girl

Interesting LordKAT?  And what version is your bible?  New International, King James, Revised Standard, English Standard?    Ever noticed that there are many different versions.  And what happened to the curse of the bible.  That you should not change the word of God.
  •  

Lisbeth

I see Godwin's Law is alive and well.

Quote from: Sandy on July 31, 2009, 09:16:13 PM
I paraphrased.  There is the law in Leviticus prohibiting the eating of shellfish as well as the prohibition of working on the sabbath.

It's after the post about how much the poster should charge for selling his daughter into slavery and whether or not Canadians could be kept as slaves.

-Sandy

A letter that's been floating around the internet for years. It was originally written by J. Kent Ashcraft and purportedly written to Dr. Laura.

QuoteDear Dr. Laura,

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them.

a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an Abomination (Lev 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

g) Lev 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev 19:27. How should they die?

i) I know from Lev 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev 24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

Your devoted disciple and adoring fan.
"Anyone who attempts to play the 'real transsexual' card should be summarily dismissed, as they are merely engaging in name calling rather than serious debate."
--Julia Serano

http://juliaserano.blogspot.com/2011/09/transsexual-versus-transgender.html
  •  

LordKAT

Janet, It is a King James version, an old one. My mother gave it to me for confirmation all those years ago when my father sent me to school to learn to walk like a girl and not embarrass him in front of the bishop.  I didn't know I walked like anything but a person til then.
  •  

Lisbeth

Quote from: Janet Lynn on July 31, 2009, 11:23:59 PM
Interesting LordKAT?  And what version is your bible?  New International, King James, Revised Standard, English Standard?    Ever noticed that there are many different versions.  And what happened to the curse of the bible.  That you should not change the word of God.
In 1611 "charity" meant "love that expects no return." In this verse it is used to translate the Greek word "agape."
"Anyone who attempts to play the 'real transsexual' card should be summarily dismissed, as they are merely engaging in name calling rather than serious debate."
--Julia Serano

http://juliaserano.blogspot.com/2011/09/transsexual-versus-transgender.html
  •  

Kumodamoogle

From what I understand the principle element of Christ teachings was two things, "Love your neighbor as yourself", and "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you". Im pretty sure it goes on to say, "do these things and you will keep all of my fathers teachings", but Im not going to look it up, so I can give ya a passage, because I dont believe in nit-picking spirituality. You do that, and you end up with a religion, and ALL religions suck.

Anyway, churches condoning Homosexuality as fine are just doing unto others as they would have things be done to them. They wouldnt want to have people tell them they couldnt love who ever they wanted, so theyre like, "Well Christ taught this was right so...." Those people are TRUE christians. The ->-bleeped-<-ers who spread hate about Jews and loved Nazis ect ect, they werent christian because they werent "loving their neighbors", and they wouldnt have enjoyed gas showers. Jee, its not rocket science to figure out that the guys preaching hate are more akin to the Nazi lovers than the people of true faith accepting people who love Christ, but happen to love the same sex as well.
  •  

RebeccaFog

Quote from: Kumodamoogle on September 26, 2009, 10:13:16 PM
From what I understand the principle element of Christ teachings was two things, "Love your neighbor as yourself", and "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you". Im pretty sure it goes on to say, "do these things and you will keep all of my fathers teachings", but Im not going to look it up, so I can give ya a passage, because I dont believe in nit-picking spirituality. You do that, and you end up with a religion, and ALL religions suck.

Anyway, churches condoning Homosexuality as fine are just doing unto others as they would have things be done to them. They wouldnt want to have people tell them they couldnt love who ever they wanted, so theyre like, "Well Christ taught this was right so...." Those people are TRUE christians. The ->-bleeped-<-ers who spread hate about Jews and loved Nazis ect ect, they werent christian because they werent "loving their neighbors", and they wouldnt have enjoyed gas showers. Jee, its not rocket science to figure out that the guys preaching hate are more akin to the Nazi lovers than the people of true faith accepting people who love Christ, but happen to love the same sex as well.

I'll give you $15.00 Canadian if you can get your point across to one of those people preaching hate.
  •