airline rules

[xsocialworker]

HOW DO YOU ALL FEEL ABOUT HAVING TO DISCLOSE LEGAL GENDER IN ORDER TO PURCHASE AN AIRLINE TICKET

[Steph]

HOW DO YOU ALL FEEL ABOUT HAVING TO DISCLOSE LEGAL GENDER IN ORDER TO PURCHASE AN AIRLINE TICKET

It doesn't bother me.  I purchase all my airline tickets online and if I recall the form doesn't ask for "Legal" gender it simple asks to check Male or Female.

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[Mister]

I bought tickets last night and didn't disclose my sex.  Even if I had...  whatever.  who cares.

[Natasha]

it doesn't bother me either.

[Miniar]

nope, doesn't bother me either.

[Calistine]

Its life. I could care less that my drivers license and passport say im female. It doesn't control who I am inside.

[Fer]

My legal gender matches what I've got between my legs.  There is a big F on my passport & other identity documents.  There's no need for them to 'ask' me for my legal gender.  The only thing they've asked me is my credit card number & expiration date.

[Steph]

My legal gender matches what I've got between my legs.  There is a big F on my passport & other identity documents.  There's no need for them to 'ask' me for my legal gender.  The only thing they've asked me is my credit card number & expiration date.

Isn't it funny that it's often the Numbers that are more important than the Letters

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[Jamie-o]

I for one am disturbed by the new legislation that is going in place that requires verification of gender to obtain a boarding pass.  As someone who is likely to pass long before I am able to legally change my gender, I am concerned about the possible harassment that could result in being forced to come out to some stranger at the airport.

Besides which, it's none of their F*ing business what I've got in my pants.

[Janet_Girl]

My DL says female and that is all I have ever shown when getting a ticket.  Plus there is my carry letter.


Janet

[Jamie-o]

My DL says female and that is all I have ever shown when getting a ticket.

FYI, the rules have now changed.  I was just reading about this in the paper.  They will now be checking against federal databases, and if your gender doesn't match your tax records they can refuse to let you board.

[Janet_Girl]

Then how will anyone be able to go to Thailand?  If the feds wouldn't let us change our genders in the fed databases, then they will not let us change our gender.

Interesting conundrum.

Janet

[deviousxen]

I put down Ms. on my train ticket a few times way before my name got legally changed (which was recent) and they didnt' seem to care.

[Hannah]

My DL says female

How did you manage that Janet, has Oregon started doing it like Washington?

[Janet_Girl]

Similar, just took a letter from my therapist and the name change.  Did them at the same time.


Janet

[Hannah]

That is so freaking cool! I didn't know Oregon had such a policy in place. I am in LaGrande, just a hair south of the Washington border and started thinking about moving north a bit when they made their change. I was really worried, because I get a substantial amount of money from the Oregon Opportunity Grant program so the new dl was looking at costing me about $400 a month.

[Janet_Girl]

Check with your therapist.  They have to be on the approved list.  And check with the DMV in your area. the state has some new rules about getting a license that might be a hinderence.  I made it just under the wire of the changes.

Janet

[Jeannette]

Is this an American thing?  I travel to Sweden and Turkey at least twice a year & I've never been asked to undress or prove my gender.

[Jamie-o]

Is this an American thing?  I travel to Sweden and Turkey at least twice a year & I've never been asked to undress or prove my gender.

Yes, it's a U.S. thing.  It's supposed to roll out August 15th for domestic flights, and apply to anyone flying into the U.S. by 2012, if I recall correctly.  They will be asking for gender and birth date, and checking against federal records.  (I'm sure they'd check your passport for international flights.)  Supposedly it's to weed out legitimate travelers who have similar names as people on terrorist watch lists.  I guess the whole Cat Stevens fiasco finally caught up with them. 

And Janet - You'd still be able to travel to Thailand.  You'd just have to tell them you're male. 

Edit: O.K.  Here's a link to a news story. http://www.statenews.com/index.php/article/2009/08/airline_ticket_buyers_to_be_required_to_give_birth_date_gender_  On re-reading, it appears they will be checking against the watch list, and they are asking for the gender that appears on "government documents".  So I guess if your state allows you to change the DL before surgery, you may be O.K., at least for domestic flights.  Still doesn't help me, though. 

[Elijah3291]

I for one am disturbed by the new legislation that is going in place that requires verification of gender to obtain a boarding pass.  As someone who is likely to pass long before I am able to legally change my gender, I am concerned about the possible harassment that could result in being forced to come out to some stranger at the airport.

Besides which, it's none of their F*ing business what I've got in my pants.

agreed!