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Started by Deanna_Renee, August 19, 2009, 12:05:41 AM

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How would you define your intelligence?

MtF - highly intelligent (Mensa range)
29 (33%)
MtF - above average
22 (25%)
MtF - average
5 (5.7%)
MtF - below average
0 (0%)
FtM - highly intelligent (Mensa range)
9 (10.2%)
FtM - above average
4 (4.5%)
FtM - average
5 (5.7%)
FtM - below average
1 (1.1%)
Androgyne - highly intelligent (Mensa range)
4 (4.5%)
Androgyne - above average
4 (4.5%)
Androgyne - average
0 (0%)
Androgyne - below average
1 (1.1%)
none of the above
4 (4.5%)

Total Members Voted: 50

tekla

Think of the money you'll save by not giving it to people who hate you.
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bernii

Hi Deanna,

As you can see, many of us are way beyond the curve of intelligence. I have seen this type of poll before and the results are the same. Being transgendered and being highly intelligent seem to go hand in hand.

Love

Brenda
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tekla

Being transgendered _____________ and being highly intelligent seem to go hand in hand.

FIFY

The only people you can trust on intelligence estimates are the ones who say they are dumb.  They might surprise you, but they sure won't disappoint you.
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Cindy

Ha :laugh:
Love this thread. Thanks Deanna.

Not a single person lower than genius, sorry there were a few, simpletons, :-* just hadn't caught up on their quantum mechanics.

Now a theory. We may be able to test it. Volunteers may be needed.

If we take a some closed boxes. equipped to support life, but the life form is unable to communicate in or out.

A number of FtM and MtF are placed in individual boxes. People (a mix of the general public) have to decide the gender of the person in the box at random. Do they exist, are they alive, and what level of intelligence are they? And of course what gender they are.

According to Schrodinger's (?) model doesn't matter you are wrong. According to American Idol you are wrong. According to USA politics you are wrong (I'll explain if need be but your are mourning a pp) . According to this thread you a right. It's got an IQ of greater !$) (keep that in) so it's definitly either male or female. And highly intelligent.

I think I need a holiday

CJ

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LordKAT

Quote from: CindyJames on August 31, 2009, 05:40:36 AM

A number of FtM and MtF are placed in individual boxes. People (a mix of the general public) have to decide the gender of the person in the box at random. Do they exist, are they alive, and what level of intelligence are they? And of course what gender they are.

According to Schrodinger's (?) model doesn't matter you are wrong. According to American Idol you are wrong. According to USA politics you are wrong (I'll explain if need be but your are mourning a pp) . According to this thread you a right. It's got an IQ of greater !$) (keep that in) so it's definitly either male or female. And highly intelligent.

or neither or a bit of both or something along those lines.

I think I need a holiday

Me too.

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Miniar

"The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool."
~ William Shakespeare, "As You Like It", Act 5 scene 1



"Everyone who has ever built anywhere a new heaven first found the power thereto in his own hell" - Nietzsche
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Just Kate

Quote from: bernii on August 30, 2009, 06:31:03 PM
Hi Deanna,

As you can see, many of us are way beyond the curve of intelligence. I have seen this type of poll before and the results are the same. Being transgendered and being highly intelligent seem to go hand in hand.

Love

Brenda

This kind of poll results the same way pretty much everywhere across demographics.  Most people believe themselves above average in intelligence.  This is healthy psychologically though, as optimism about oneself tends to result in health benefits that those who are more realistic (or negative) about their limitations do not share.
Ill no longer be defined by my condition. From now on, I'm just, Kate.

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tekla

Here, this is funny. IQ by nation, and by state, with a report on who voted for Bush or Kerry.
http://perdurabo10.tripod.com/id1048.html
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Genevieve Swann

I am guessing above average because of the tests I have taken in my lifetime. Intelligence is the ability to think and has nothing to do with knowledge. Many poorly educated people are very intelligent. The ability to think in the abstract is what seperates humans from other lower forms of life. For example
E=mc2 is a very abstract theory but it works.

Natasha

Quote from: Jerica on August 30, 2009, 06:15:13 PM
I'm not sure what "mensa" means.

it's an organization for people with high IQ's.
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tekla

In theory MENSA is open to people who's IQ - as measured in standardized tests - is in the top 2% of the nation (which is really limited in fact to the top 2% of people taking such tests).

The name is Latin - which if you were Mensa material, you'd know I guess (or if you're old school Catholic) and it means 'table' in the sense of a round table forum.
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Steph

Oh dear.  I just reviewed the Poll and it seems I'm in the bottom percentile of the MtF.  Damn what to do, what to do?
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So I thunk it thru and since I'm happy as a clam I think I'm edumacated enuff.  :D

-={LR}=-
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Dana Lane

Quote from: Ladyrider on August 31, 2009, 11:51:00 AM
Oh dear.  I just reviewed the Poll and it seems I'm in the bottom percentile of the MtF.  Damn what to do, what to do?
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So I thunk it thru and since I'm happy as a clam I think I'm edumacated enuff.  :D

-={LR}=-

You should have picked mensa like I did.  :)
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Alyssa M.

Quote from: tekla on August 31, 2009, 09:36:47 AM
Here, this is funny. IQ by nation, and by state, with a report on who voted for Bush or Kerry.
http://perdurabo10.tripod.com/id1048.html

Holy crap, yes, funny, but the tortured reasoning based on flimsy data and no demostrated understanding of the distinction between distributions and their averages made my head hurt when I read that. The conclusion that dumb people tended to vote for Bush rather than Kerry (which I tend to believe to be true) is simply not supported (nor contradicted) by the data presented.
All changes, even the most longed for, have their melancholy; for what we leave behind us is a part of ourselves; we must die to one life before we can enter another.

   - Anatole France
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tekla

I said it was funny, not true - but not as funny as everyone thinking they are above average, that's really funny.
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Steph

Quote from: Matilda on August 31, 2009, 01:10:31 PM
ROFL ;D 

Hey, now I would like to ask how many of those PhD holders, high IQ and Mensa material "tee-gee people" are ACTUALLY EMPLOYED & earning a 6 figure income (or at least something close to a 6 figure income]?  >:-)




LOL...  There's a lot to be said for Common Sense, something which many seem to lack these days.

I've adhered to:

"It is better to remain quiet and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." :)

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tekla

Hey, now I would like to ask how many of those PhD holders

Anyone that smart knows there is more to life than money, if you don't believe me, then let me rent you for a few hours.  Yeah, thought so.  So money ain't everything, its not even the most important deal.  Living your life the way you see fit, the way that gives it meaning, the way that means something to you - that's the deal.  Otherwise, why not stand out at corner of Post and Polk and gets 'ya some green.  I hear they don't care much at that particular intersection of life.

Someone much wiser than myself once said, "there is both time and money, choose what you will save."  I always thought you can have one, or the other - but not both.

I could make more, lots more.  Hell, doing the dentist convention at Moscone pays twice what I make at the Fillmore.  However, I'm far less interested in making dentists look like rock stars than I am about making rock stars look like rock stars.  Silly I suppose, but it's my art, and I have the right to decide when and where I use it.  That I would guess is pretty close to what being smart is really about, knowing what you want to do, and finding a way to do it - regardless of the money involved.

And far too many things, mostly involving time, don't require money.  A day out at Ocean Beach, a lazy afternoon on Hippie Hill, smoking a bit, having a beer, listening to the drum circle, and watching the fog roll over Sutro Tower.  Is that really worth a few bucks?

I just figure that the best moments in my life have been 'unbuyable' - not any any price, not by anyone else. 

What exactly is that worth then?
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NicholeW.

Quote from: tekla on August 31, 2009, 07:53:55 PM
Hey, now I would like to ask how many of those PhD holders

Anyone that smart knows there is more to life than money, if you don't believe me, then let me rent you for a few hours.  Yeah, thought so.  So money ain't everything, its not even the most important deal.  Living your life the way you see fit, the way that gives it meaning, the way that means something to you - that's the deal.  Otherwise, why not stand out at corner of Post and Polk and gets 'ya some green.  I hear they don't care much at that particular intersection of life.

Someone much wiser than myself once said, "there is both time and money, choose what you will save."  I always thought you can have one, or the other - but not both.

I could make more, lots more.  Hell, doing the dentist convention at Moscone pays twice what I make at the Fillmore.  However, I'm far less interested in making dentists look like rock stars than I am about making rock stars look like rock stars.  Silly I suppose, but it's my art, and I have the right to decide when and where I use it.  That I would guess is pretty close to what being smart is really about, knowing what you want to do, and finding a way to do it - regardless of the money involved.

And far too many things, mostly involving time, don't require money.  A day out at Ocean Beach, a lazy afternoon on Hippie Hill, smoking a bit, having a beer, listening to the drum circle, and watching the fog roll over Sutro Tower.  Is that really worth a few bucks?

I just figure that the best moments in my life have been 'unbuyable' - not any any price, not by anyone else. 

What exactly is that worth then?

Simply lovely.

A much better test of intelligence and living than a mensa, or any other sort of, iq quiz or means-test.

Thanks, Kat.

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tekla

Sad to say Matilda, but life is about more than accessorizing.  Which I'm sure is what you're bank account, your shoes, your IQ, your friends and family, and your BF are in the end.  Just simple accoutrement to your fab life.  Tragic that others live in the world with you, we'd all do better on our own.  Don't you think?
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Steph

Quote from: tekla on August 31, 2009, 07:53:55 PM
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Anyone that smart knows there is more to life than money,


Hmm... But surely to achieve a PhD (For example) one must expend copious amounts of money and once this lofty title was gained, no doubt through much hard work and sacrifice, one would need to seek gainful employment to help relieve the burden; hence the need to charge for their services, if their PhD enabled them (I'm thinking of the medical fields here.)

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