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Who Did Your Relate To When You Were Young?

Started by K8, August 29, 2009, 01:21:55 PM

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Agent_J

A handful of teachers and my mother, really.  I got along quite well with my mother but she was too busy working two jobs (one either teaching college or as a college administrator, the other contracts to write the texts used by a correspondence school) to earn the money on which we lived.

As for the rest of my family; the simplest way I could put it was that they intended to demonstrate just how unfair and cruel they could be toward me.  They often went out of their way in their effort, costing themselves just to ensure I couldn't have something.
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Ryuu

I think I'm more attached to my mother. (Still young so I'm using present relations hehe) I kind of tried to relate to my dad, and in some aspects I do. I go backpacking with him, stuff like that. But he's just not someone I feel like I really can relate to in a lot of ways. (Actually, I've been looking at a lot of "passing/presenting" tips online, and it seems to me, that at least in manners of speaking, some mannerisms, my dad is actually a lot more feminine. Which might also explain why my mom, who is gay, married him)
My mom has always just been easier to talk to, especially once being bisexual/transgender/ came up. :)
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Alex_C

My Dad - he wasn't perfect but the image I had of him was of something like a superhero. Even when I got older, I still thought he was cool. Adults on TV like Jaques Cousteau, advanturers and pilots and scientists and stuff. Greek heroes in books and scientists, explorers, etc. Hell I even thought Clutch Cargo was cool, him and SPAAAAACE AAANGEL lol. Adult guys in general, guys who held bonfires on the beach and knew how to use tools and would have parties where they cracked bullwhip and did all the FUN stuff that kids couldn't do.
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GinaDouglas

I didn't relate to the men in my family at all.  I loved my father and grandfathers, but viewed them as loveable aliens.  The women in my family were dowdy, utilitarian women, and I didn't identify with them either.

My mother's younger brother was a slob and a jerk who I didn't like, but he was handsome.  His girlfriend/fiancee/wife was who I was very taken with as a young child, who I really wanted to be like.

She looked somewhat like Marlo Thomas, except prettier, and I didn't see her much after they were married - but That Girl was on every day, and I really identified with her.  I also really liked Petticoat Junction and Bewitched.  Also Barbara Feldon as Agent 99 and Dianna Rigg as Emma Peel.  And Supergirl in the comics.  Plus several of the guest heroines on Star Trek and Anne Bolynne.
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K8

Quote from: GinaDouglas on September 02, 2009, 03:24:47 PM
That Girl was on every day, and I really identified with her.  I also really liked Petticoat Junction and Bewitched.  Also Barbara Feldon as Agent 99 and Dianna Rigg as Emma Peel.  And Supergirl in the comics.  Plus several of the guest heroines on Star Trek and Anne Bolynne.

That's really funny that you mention that.  I always studied the women on TV and figured the men were just placeholders - required for the story but otherwise pretty uninteresting.  I loved how Marlo Thomas looked and sounded, but her character was kind of vapid. ::)

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Alex_C

Man I was always about the dudes on TV, I even liked Darren most on Bewitched. Poor guy!
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Silver

Well I was always a "daddy's girl" but that's not out of any hidden ->-bleeped-<-. My father's just, as far as I know, a really nice guy. Real tolerant, trusting, hardworking, a real role model. I spent the most time with my mother though since she didn't work.

Once puberty hit, my mother began to get more strict and she's a little harder to bear much less aspire towards. She doesn't have a job, she's constantly angry, she causes a lot of social problems, she's close minded and she doesn't seem to want to solve her problems. So ultimately I aspire to become neither of them.

Famous women in this day are usually noted for not much more than their hotness as far as I see, and I'll look up to those intelligent college-graduate men which are just so easy to respect. I'm not being sexist, lots of men are dolts. In fact a vast majority seem to have little to no purpose in life (except perhaps procreation). College graduate women don't seem to different from their less educated counterparts and maybe it says something about their intrinsic maturity. I don't know.

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JessicaLynn

For me I grew up in a matriarchal family.  I always looked to the women in my family, Mother, Grandmother, Sister, Female cousins.  My father was around but in the background.  I always related to the women around me.  As I got older and realized who I was I tried to relate to men around me but really had a hard time of it.  I found a few things I liked about being a guy but for the most part I always felt that I shoud be elsewhere, with the girls. 
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Alex_C

SilverFang you are right, where are today's Amelia Airharts, our Madame Curies, our hero female transport and even fighter pilots, someone's finally developed a sort of jetplane-pack that looks like an utter gas to fly with, where's the gutsy 98-lb gal making speed and distance records with it?

Even the "femme fatales" of the past were formidable. Not little twinks like Paris Hilton etc. Madonna's a bit imposing but nothing like the leading ladies of the past in movies etc who could turn the biggest toughest man's knees to jelly.

But then likewise I have to ask, where are our male heroes too? Space travel is history now and the big secret is, we will not go back to the moon. It was 10 years from when JFK said we ought to go, and we went. We had Great Scientists and explorers and heroes, and kids like me grew up watching Jacques Cousteau and wanting to be a deep-sea explorer like him.

We have of course small-time, everyday heroes. People who stop to help those in need, face down bullies, do the right thing. And we'll always have. But the "big" heroes of the past formed and molded a lot of us as kids, and made us perhaps a bit more likely to pitch in for the other guy, the weak, the wronged, etc than otherwise.

These days it's fashionable to point out how this or that heroic person has toenail fungus, burps after lunch, smells when they miss a shower, and once cussed at their 3rd grade teacher. Since irony is dead, when can be let cynicism die back a bit too?
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K8

In the beginning, women competed with men in rodeo.  And I do mean compete.  Some of the old photographs are of incredible women.  Then in the 20s or 30s a wave a political correctness or something hit and women were relegated to carrying flags and looking feminine.  It took decades before they could just do barrel racing.  Yech.

Women continue to break barriers, though.  There are some incredible women in India and Africa and the Muslim countries demanding status for women above that of goats.  And that takes lots of courage.

Unfortunately, the US media is racing toward the lowest common denominator and concentrates on ...  Oh, hell, don't get me started. :P

- Kate
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Silver

Quote from: Alex_C on September 08, 2009, 03:07:53 PM
SilverFang you are right, where are today's Amelia Airharts, our Madame Curies, our hero female transport and even fighter pilots, someone's finally developed a sort of jetplane-pack that looks like an utter gas to fly with, where's the gutsy 98-lb gal making speed and distance records with it?

Even the "femme fatales" of the past were formidable. Not little twinks like Paris Hilton etc. Madonna's a bit imposing but nothing like the leading ladies of the past in movies etc who could turn the biggest toughest man's knees to jelly.

But then likewise I have to ask, where are our male heroes too? Space travel is history now and the big secret is, we will not go back to the moon. It was 10 years from when JFK said we ought to go, and we went. We had Great Scientists and explorers and heroes, and kids like me grew up watching Jacques Cousteau and wanting to be a deep-sea explorer like him.

We have of course small-time, everyday heroes. People who stop to help those in need, face down bullies, do the right thing. And we'll always have. But the "big" heroes of the past formed and molded a lot of us as kids, and made us perhaps a bit more likely to pitch in for the other guy, the weak, the wronged, etc than otherwise.

These days it's fashionable to point out how this or that heroic person has toenail fungus, burps after lunch, smells when they miss a shower, and once cussed at their 3rd grade teacher. Since irony is dead, when can be let cynicism die back a bit too?

Well, I was expecting to be challenged on my post. This is a nice surprise. My generation doesn't have much in the way of real heroes. . . just celebrities and athletes which are hardly the best ideal to follow. So there are some teachers I look up to and some people just have some really great advice. These people do not make it into the spotlights, and I'm rather lucky to know some of them as they are probably in short supply these days. Or perhaps we just never notice them. We're going to have a lot of lonely, misdirected adults who are really still kids running the world when I get older. Or at least that's what I'm seeing.

SilverFang
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Alex_C

That's a whole other issue .... let me just say that by age 10 it was OK to take the bus into town, 40 miles away, it was OK to walk and hike all over the place, we had chores, a person was considered a wimp if (male or female) they couldn't climb a pretty decently high tree, throw a mean rock, etc. If you had a problem you could deal with yourself, you did. We played in groups, neighborhood kids, and we learned to get along or if not, to deal with it.

Very different from today's sedentary, highly adult-dependent kids. We are really seeing "adults" who are really still kids now.
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Northern Jane

My mom was a tyrant and mean but my Dad was loving and gentle - he was my protector and I idolized him (so did my sister). My two Grandmothers were the ones I really related to and I loved talking to them or just listening. They were wise women indeed.

My greatest woman hero was Mae West - I thought she was great (much to my mother's horror! LOL!) She was saucy and brash, feisty, and certainly never took second place to any man. I admired the courage of women who pioneered "non-traditional work" and pushed boundaries, women like Amelia Earhart and Amy Johnson.
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King Malachite

I related to my father because he's a cruel and cold-hearted man and my family members said I was cruel and cold-hearted.
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Felix

I only related to animals and to fictional or long-dead humans.
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Biscuit_Stix

Quote from: Felix on March 19, 2012, 12:06:18 AM
I only related to animals and to fictional or long-dead humans.

This for me too. I never had much of a thing for humans... I don't really 'get' them most of the time. I buried my head in books, where there were usually clear cut explanations for why people did crazy stuff, haha! "Oh you're going to shoot that guy in the head and steal his car, why exactly?" "Isn't it obvious, because the author thinks I need character development, so in this time of personal crisis, I'm liable to do really anything." "Ah, well okay then, carry on." That is SO much simpler than, "Oh honey, it's nothing *tear tear tear* don't mind me *sob*" "Well, okay, if its really noth-" "You're such an insensitive ass!!" "AHHH! Where did that... wait, what?! But you said...!!!"

Yes, I'll go back to my books and my pets now...
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Spaceball 1.                                     and every scar tells a story.
*gasp* They've gone to plaid!        A story that says,
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Eva Marie

I related much more to the things in my head than to real world people. Didn't relate to my parents and had few friends; my internal world was a much better place.
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Raya

Quote from: riven1 on March 20, 2012, 11:44:18 PM
I related much more to the things in my head than to real world people. Didn't relate to my parents and had few friends; my internal world was a much better place.
This x1000.

The adults in my life taught me a lot. They were superb examples of how not to be. The other children were mostly a bunch of cliquish bores. They mostly taught me how to fight, and the value of having friends in high places...

Quote from: Malachite on March 18, 2012, 10:50:28 PM
I related to my father because he's a cruel and cold-hearted man and my family members said I was cruel and cold-hearted.
Oh, you poor thing! I know what you mean. My sperm donor was a rapist, a batterer, and a junkie. One of my fonder memories of puberty was learning that the reason my mom never gave me the "birds and the bees" talk was because she was always afraid I'd "inherit" all that...

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Felix

everybody's house is haunted
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