Female type visit... :(

[Jamie-o]

Speaking of the vaccine, anyone know why you can't get it if you're over 26?

[metal angel]

Get it at all, or get it for free?

For free, it depends on the country, but unlikely, they are targeting the younger people.

But i know in Australia at least it now seems to have been approved for older women, i saw an advert in the doctors office on Friday. They have to pay, but i think they weren't able to get it at all before because i think it had only been tested on younger women.

So if it's now been tested on women over 26 and found safe an effective, i imagine most countries will make it available to this age-group, and some might even fund it (i.e. you get it free).

They need to give it to both sexes though to get the best results, they need to vaccinate the potential carriers as well...

I seem to have a vaccine obsession... bugger... i just got rejected for a PhD project on vaccines, dang, that wasn't pissing me off till i remembered how cool vaccines are.

 

[GDTripp]

I just went to the gyno 2-3 months ago, and boy was it awful! The lady was gentle, warmed up the specs beforehand, and told me what she was doing or going to do, but it was still way uncomfortable to the point of painful. After she was done she gave me privacy to cry in private and call my boyfriend cos I felt so violated... But it's good for my health, so I have to grin (yeah right!) and bear it.

She was even nice enough to get ahold of a free IUD for me, and even better, prescribed me some powerful effective pain pills to drug me up during the IUD insertion. Now THAT was painful. Thank Goddess the pills took away my memory of the day. I couldn't remember my boyfriend holding my hand, or getting me out to the truck in a wheelchair, or taking me out to some expensive chinese food. What a sweet guy he is.

BTW, the gyno told me that men make better gynos cos they're afraid of being sued if they're not gentle enough, lol. If I can find a GLBTQ-friendly male gyno for my next visit, I'll test her claim.

  GDTripp

[Alex_C]

OK here's my experience:

I had one years ago, they asked if I was a virgin, and I said, "with guys? yeah" and they put some thing in there and there was a very slight nip and that was it. Also had an Army doctor, an old guy, poke around up in there and feel my overies, it was just not a problem at all other than thinking, "Geesh, I just had an old guy poking around in me" probably the same level of embarassment as a bio-male going to that same old guy for a prostate exam and jizzing.

Getting this stuff done as a bearded, buff male is gonna be interesting.

[kestin]

In New Zealand anyone can get the vaccine, however its only free for those 18 and under. Otherwise, for the full (three?) shots, its costs around $300 I believe... so I'm aiming to get it, once I have medical insurance and will be covered by it XD

[Teknoir]

This topic = cold chill down spine.

I've never been to a gyno for an internal exam, and I'm sure as hell not starting any time soon. As far as I'm concerned, they can have a good look when they remove it.

I know for a fact I don't have HPV (At the risk of TMI, let's just say I have a rather short history  ). I've had the jabs. I had an ultrasound of the area about 5 years ago (to try to figure out why everyone else's "monthly visitor" is only a quarterly visitor for me). I'm under 30. Let's just say it's really very unlikely that I have cancer.

I plan to get rid of it all in the next 5 or 10 years anyway, I see no point in putting myself through hell. F*** that noise.

[Alex_C]

IF your body fat is very low your "monthly visitor" will hardly come around. I used to think this was cool in my teens and 20s but it turns out it's not too good for you otherwise.

[metal angel]

would reduce your risk of ovarian cancer if it's just due to being underweight, the less you ovulate the less demage you get, pill and pregnancy work too

but can be cause by an underlying problem like pollycystic ovaries, which can cause other trouble

also i think if you are under-weight enough to stop bleeding for a long time it can risk long rfertility, but if you're getting it all removed soon that wouldn't be a concern for you

[Vancha]

Yes, but being significantly underweight harms your body in other ways.  It's just not worth it, especially if the parts will be removed in other ways.  It may decrease ovarian cancer by some amount, but having them removed does so significantly more.

[JonasCarminis]

its not necessarily underweight that stops it, its a low fat percentage.

[Silver]

If you don't ovulate, you produce less estrogen so your bones thin. Estrogen and testosterone mantain bones so you need something.

SilverFang

[Vancha]

Whether it's being underweight or having an excessively low body fat level, it's not healthy.  Like SilverFang mentioned, it can thin your bones, causing osteoporosis later in life.  It's probably wiser to cope until testosterone comes along or take birth control pills for a short length of time.  Low body fat percentage is often more permanent than the pill.

[metal angel]

well it depends on what is stopping it like i said, if it's underweight purely probably worse than over-exercise which can also cause periods to stop

[Silver]

Over-excercising lowers your body fat to levels unnacceptable for reproduction. Once it passes the 12% barrier (I think it's 12%) your body stops ovulating.

Excercise is better though since the stress forces your bones to thicken, so it minimizes loss.

SilverFang

[metal angel]

Actually... haver any of the F2Ms here tried just ovber-exercising as a free and easy HRT? It tends to re-wire your hormonal system in a way that generallly masculinises, lack of periods being one of the biggest factors. You'd need to push yourself way beyond a mere mortal though.

I considerred trying to butch up my figure wioth weight training, but lost interrest when i realised by insanely sporty sister still looks very girly... hrmmm... guess it depends on the approach of i do big weights and few reps on carefully chosen bits maybe i could do a bit of reshaping without pushing my whole body too far?

sorry... i'm tangenting.... just a thought

[Vancha]

Actually... haver any of the F2Ms here tried just ovber-exercising as a free and easy HRT? It tends to re-wire your hormonal system in a way that generallly masculinises, lack of periods being one of the biggest factors. You'd need to push yourself way beyond a mere mortal though.

I considerred trying to butch up my figure wioth weight training, but lost interrest when i realised by insanely sporty sister still looks very girly... hrmmm... guess it depends on the approach of i do big weights and few reps on carefully chosen bits maybe i could do a bit of reshaping without pushing my whole body too far?

sorry... i'm tangenting.... just a thought

Yeah, that and under-eating.  Less body fat, more muscle, and everything looks more masculine, even the face.  I have thought about it and even gone through with it in the past, but I often have my slips.  It's not always easy to push yourself beyond what most people would do, or after doing so, avoid eating much.  It does seem to masculinize to an extent, though.  Exercising and eating well while on T would have its benefits, too.  Maybe great.

[JonasCarminis]

eryk used to have his red death stop when he exercised hard.  maybe he'll chime in at some point.