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Do you support gay marriage?

Started by juliekins, September 13, 2009, 10:42:53 AM

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Do you support gay marriage? Or is something close to it good enough?

Yes, I fully support gay marriage. No other substitute gives people equal rights.
Yes, I support gay marriage but civil unions should be an acceptable alternative.
No, I think that a civil union or domestic partnership law is more appropriate.
I think that the state should not allow for marriage, but rather civil unions only for gays and straights alike.
I don't think gays and lesbians should have the right to marry.
I don't think that gays should have the right to either marry or even have a civil union arrangement.

juliekins

Where does everyone come down on this hot social issue of our day? Do you support the rights of gays and lesbians to marry and have full equal rights under the law? Currently, even if gays do get "married" in a state, the federal gov't and the IRS does not recognize the marriage. (This is because of DOMA, the defense of marriage act) Also, when married gays and lesbians move out of state or travel, they become strangers and "unmarried". Is this fair?
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tekla

I don't think anyone should get married.  I do however support the right of any two people to form a legal contract and have all the benefits and responsibilities of a 'domestic partnership' including insurance, power of attorney and property rights - including the marriage right of getting your spouses/partners property upon their death pretty much tax free.
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myles

Domestic partnerships and anything else that is not a "marriage" does not give couples the same rights. Everyone deserves equal right with the government/IRS/ and such. Gay and Lesbian couples deserve a "marriage" that affords them the same rights as "straight" couples and is accepted in all 50 states.
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tekla

Hey, I don't even think that the relationship has be predicated on someone sticking their hoo-haw into someone elses ying-yang.  Any two people.  That's all the contract should ask for, and any two people signing it should get all the rights - a two-tier system is wrong and un-American.  But so is putting the church into the State's business.
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Julie Marie

Well, if you're hell bent on getting married, spend a day in divorce court.  When you watch the "couples" go at it, remember they once believed they were marrying the love of their life. 

As far as voting, I chose #1 since it affords any couple who want to enter into a legal union the same rights, privileges, etc as now enjoyed by those who are legally married in the eyes of the federal government.

If I had my druthers I'd define marriage something that happens in a church but has no legal bearing on the union between people.  If you want a legal union, go down to the courthouse and make it happen.  Any two or more people qualify if they spent a day in divorce court first.

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myles

The divorce court idea is hysterical. I wonder how many people would go through with thier marriage after a day of that.
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tekla

I wonder how many people would go through with thier marriage after a day of that.

All of them.  Everyone thinks they are special and it ain't gonna happen to them.
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Janet_Girl

I fully support Gay marriage.  Civil union is only second best, therefore making people second class citizens.

I have been through divorse court three times and I would still get married.  Divorce is just part of marriage.  Tekla must support the newest Californian initiative, 'Banning Divorce'.  ;D ;)   Typical Xtian Reich forcing their views on the world.

Divorce isn't perfect, but nether is marriage.  Marriage is a contract, Divorce is the dissolution of that contract.


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tekla

Umm, its a joke, but a pretty funny one.  Till death do you part, and you're not dead yet.
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Miniar

Then only way we can have fully equal rights is to have one law in regards to all unions.
While marriages are allowed for hetero couples, gay couples should have the same right. That is not to say that we should force all churches to comply, just that the same union should be available to all.



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lizbeth

I'm fine with civil unions but ONLY if we have civil unions and marriage is banned in the eyes of the government. marriage is a quant ceremony that is past it's time. I also think that any 2 OR MORE consenting adults should be able to enter into domestic partnerships. they can sign business contracts and they can be roomates, so why not? just becuase they dont have a sexual relationship doesn't mean that they don't rely on each other the same way a married or unioned couple would. if south park taught us anything it's that BFFs have a right to sustain life support! but seriously, why can't hippies enter a commune together and get the same tax credits and benifits as a straight couple or even a same sex couple?
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Hannah

Quote from: Janet Lynn on September 13, 2009, 11:13:47 AM
I have been through divorse court three times and I would still get married. 
That's called Serial Monogamy. Seriously, it's on the books  ;) I think I was in like psych201 or something when I heard the term and laughed so hard I made a scene.

Year after year for a very long time I would snuggle into my boyfriend every night and bond with him, be it talking about his day, fooling around or just listening to music until we fell asleep. My grandparents didn't even share a room for most of their marriage and my mom and dad divorced when I was 7. There's your family values.
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sd

Get rid of marriage in the eyes of the government.
The religious right claim it is a religious institution, let them have it.

Get rid of that and make all partnerships domestic with the exact same values for all involved.


If the big complaint is about wording, change the wording and be done with it. All this bickering is costing LOTS and LOTS of money over something completely asinine.
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tekla

Actually, divorce is very good for the economy.
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Nathan.

I fully support Gay marriage as straight people have it but if I had my way I'd ban marriage and everyone would have to have Civil unions.
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Nicky

We have civil unions in my country. They have the same legel rights as a marriage, but they called it something different to passify the detractors.

Personally I think the state marriage should just be a legel contract - religions and other orgs should have their own 'ceremonies' but the legel side should remain the same regardless of sex/gender etc..call it a marriage if you like, but that should be irrelevant to the underlying contract.
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Steph

I think Gays and Lesbians should be afforded every opportunity to be as miserable as heterosexuals. :)

Here in Ontario, where Gay marriage is recognized, the Gay couple who made headlines by being the first to Marry in Ontario, recently made headlines by being the first Gay couple to divorce.  :)

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jennifer jane

Do I support gay marriage?Of course! But Please! please! Consider the children if you have them. A gay housewife isn't such a bad thing as long as children are honoured.

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Tammy Hope

Quote from: tekla on September 13, 2009, 10:48:37 AM
I don't think anyone should get married.  I do however support the right of any two people to form a legal contract and have all the benefits and responsibilities of a 'domestic partnership' including insurance, power of attorney and property rights - including the marriage right of getting your spouses/partners property upon their death pretty much tax free.

this is exactly the arrangement I have been suggesting on my regular board for several years now.

Something like this could be broad enough to include spinster sisters or business partners or the dude living in his mom's basement partnering with his mom.

In this way there's no legal favoritism towards married couples in any sense.

The only thing I'd quibble with in your post is this - I'd alter the first sentence to read:

"I don't think anyone should get legally married."

I fully support anyone's right to a private ceremony of their choice.
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tekla

All I care about is the law.  That's all this is (and pretty much ever was) it's about property, not states of grace.
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