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What's the BIGGEST INSULT you endured in PUBLIC?

Started by Shelina, October 01, 2009, 10:21:40 AM

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tekla

Hang around here long enough and you'll met them.  They don't think they are Trans, but they show up to make sure the rest of us don't think so either.
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Shelina

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Last Friday night it's another type of common insult I endure.

You know what hurts me the most? When a bunch of handsome guys are coming from far and initially you hear 'WOW! Look at that beautiful bombshell chick' then when they get closer and realize what you are they say 'EWWW, YUCKS! It's just a disgusting ->-bleeped-<-got'. From far I'm a beautiful girl and from close I'm disgusting, don't you see these stinking extremist straights just have a prejudice against us in their stinking idiot minds. IF EVER I SUCCEED TRANSITIONING, I'M GONNA SLAM DOWN ALL EXTREMIST STRAIGHT MEN 1 BY 1 AND ALL THOSE WHO MADE ME SUFFER. I'LL PROVOKE THEM, MAKE THEM FALL IN LOVE WITH ME THEN I'LL DOWNTREAD THEM ALL LIKE A SIMPLE INSECT! DAMN ->-bleeped-<-!!!
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tekla

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Renate

Revenge is a dish best left in the refrigerator. >:-)
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Hannah

Quote from: Shelina on October 03, 2009, 12:54:34 AM
From far I'm a beautiful girl and from close I'm disgusting

on the bright side, that's progress, right? It's better than being disgusting from any angle isn't it?
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Shelina

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Quote from: Becca on October 03, 2009, 10:30:31 AM
on the bright side, that's progress, right? It's better than being disgusting from any angle isn't it?

Becca, I know very well I don't look disgusting from close and look beautiful as many genuine people told me, but the problem is that I FACIALLY DON'T PASS. You know there are trannsexuals who are very beautiful BUT THEY DON'T PASS but there are other transsexuals who pass 100% but are ordinary looking. You see what I mean. WHAT MAKES ME LOOK DISGUSTING TO THESE STINKING EXTREMIST STRAIGHT GUYS IS JUST THE FACT OF NOT BEING A GENETIC FEMALE WHEN THEY KNOW VERY WELL DEEP IN THEIR STINKING MIND INSIDE I AM GOOD-LOOKING.

IT'S REALLY TERRIBLE HOW THESE EXTREMIST STRAIGHTS PREFER GOING WITH AN UGLY/ORDINARY LOOKING GENETIC FEMALE THAN WITH A BOMBSHELL-LOOKING ->-bleeped-<-.
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Hannah

I know what you mean dear, it's bittersweet. This anger isn't healthy though, and if you keep putting this out your'e going to attract more of it to yourself. I know it hurts, really deeply, but this reaction is only going to make it worse.
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heatherrose



Quote from: Shelina on October 03, 2009, 10:41:09 AMIT'S REALLY TERRIBLE HOW THESE EXTREMIST STRAIGHTS PREFER GOING WITH AN UGLY/ORDINARY LOOKING GENETIC FEMALE THAN WITH A BOMBSHELL-LOOKING ->-bleeped-<-.

It's because dear old Dad didn't marry a transsexual.


"I have always wanted to have a neighbor just like you,
I've always wanted to live in a neighborhood with you.

So let's make the most of this beautiful day,
Since we're together, we might as well say,
Would you be mine?
Could you be mine?
Won't you be my neighbor?" - Fred Rogers
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tekla

IT'S REALLY TERRIBLE HOW THESE EXTREMIST STRAIGHTS PREFER GOING WITH AN UGLY/ORDINARY LOOKING GENETIC FEMALE THAN WITH A BOMBSHELL-LOOKING ->-bleeped-<-.

Guys liking girls who have girl parts is hardly extreme - in fact, its pretty much ordinary.
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milktea

wow very shocking to read this thread...

i suppose anything worse than an insult is physical threat, which i'll advice doing what all girls do -- don't go to shady/unsafe places or walk down dark alleys alone, carry a pepper spray if your town has got poor security and a pack of condoms in case there's no way out...other than that don't take verbal insults to heart and you may even fire back at them if you think it's safe to do so :)

my worst experience has been several years ago when i had to visit the men's toilet in an office building...i was dressed in male office wear and kept my head down, but the noosy cleaner couldn't quit stareing at me and even asked me in the face whether i am a girl, and when i denied he got closer to me and started making rude remarks about me...and i almost ran out of there. thank god there weren't too many people there at that time but it sure was embarassing as hell...

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barbie

Quote from: milktea on December 27, 2009, 10:41:16 AM
wow very shocking to read this thread...

i suppose anything worse than an insult is physical threat, which i'll advice doing what all girls do -- don't go to shady/unsafe places or walk down dark alleys alone, carry a pepper spray if your town has got poor security and a pack of condoms in case there's no way out...other than that don't take verbal insults to heart and you may even fire back at them if you think it's safe to do so :)

I am just wondering how such insulting comments can be made in public even in a civilized society. In my country, I have never faced such problem.

Some people here sometimes read me, asking like "are you a woman or a man?". Usually I do not reply. Sometimes they ask the same question to my friends beside me. Even they read me, they do not dare to speak to me. Only kids in my apartment ask and ask again.

Yes. The two most insulting cases for me happened coincidentally in the U.S., but the two are opposite in terms of passing.

1. I was in a line at a pharmacy store. The female cashier loudly called me 'Sir' while I wore high heel boots. There were so many people behind me. I did not respond anyway. Just endured it. Fortunately, people did not react unusually. (I wore the same boots today with my family and relatives  ;D)

2. I was virtually raped by a drunken man in public parking lot of a shopping mall. I detailed it once here in other board. Anyway, I was so lucky that he just ran away after clearly realizing I am a man (he tried to detach my genitals as if they were a kind of accessories). Two weeks later, I heard that the police was investigating a rape case there, and I knew that the suspect was the same man, but I could not contact the police, fearing I had to reveal my identity.

Both cases can happen in my country, but fortunately the chance is extremly low. For case 1, we prefer calling a person by gender-neutral pronouns. For 2, even in mid-night I can walk in hot pants and heels without any harassement. I just enjoy attention of both men and women ;D

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Hannah

I wouldn't get too worked up over it, Milktea, this is not the usual experience. 

The original poster ended up using all our warnings and cautions as a reverse direction manual; last we heard from her she had quit her job to go be a hooker and it was going great until the other hookers got jealous or somethingorother. She was on a pretty self destructive path and dare I say brought a lot of these things on herself.

I'd love to hear how you're doing now Shelina, if you're out there lurking somewhere.
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Britney_413

I guess I'm a bit late getting to this thread but here it goes. I'm not full time yet so I don't run into a ton of insults but I have transitioned in some ways that when I am presenting as male, I still come off as androgynous. This is mainly due to the long feminine-styled hair and my hot pink nail polish. Before I begin my brief story, I will say that it is indeed NOT racist to mention someone's race in a story unless it is actually used in a slanderous manner. Anybody who has taken the trouble to pick up a BOOK for once in their life understands that clear descriptions are required to assist the reader in developing a quality mental picture of the story at hand. The less description leaves more to the imagination but every author has to include at least some detail to make it a worthwhile read. Some descriptions can be so detailed as to include even the smell in the room. I don't think that is necessary in an internet post but mentioning the person's race so that readers can visualize the scene is indeed relevant. Anyone who can't handle it I personally think should stop being so sensitive.

So here is my story: I'm entering a Fry's grocery store in a rough neighborhood in Phoenix, AZ (U.S.). I am presenting somewhat androgynous but clearly male (my birth gender). I am merely wearing a collar shirt and jeans that I had on at work that day but I also had a holstered and visible pistol on my belt which is legal and generally accepted in Arizona. Oh, by the way I'm white. My hair is long and feminine and I have pink glittery nail polish on my hands.

So I'm in line at the checkout when a Mexican man with his Mexican girlfriend get in line behind me. The man was poorly dressed wearing a tank-top shirt and had gang-style tattoos all over his arms, neck, and legs. The man immediately says real loud, "WTF" and of course I didn't turn around. He stood so close to me as if he was trying to get a closer look at the gun. I used standard retention techniques and changed my angle putting it clearly out of his reach. It must have been at this point he noticed the nail polish. The whole time in line he goes on and on saying "He's crazy...look at that...look at his hands...WTF" and loud enough that it was obvious. He came across as a macho-man prison type who didn't like the fact that I was armed but mostly disturbed by the feminine appearance. I then later heard the words "->-bleeped-<-got" mumbled around. While the guy never directly insulted me, it was disturbing because he kept staring in a threatening manner almost like he wanted to start something. Some of these characters aren't always deterred by a gun either especially if they are on drugs.

What this told me is that if I had had the gun concealed he would have still flipped out over the nail polish but would have probably directly confronted me or actually made threats but the gun kept him enough at bay to keep it between him and his girlfriend. If I had the gun only but no nail polish, he probably would have been the "tough guy" and asked me what caliber, etc. because he would have seen me more as a man.

People can debate all they want how I (or anyone) should dress, etc. in a public place including what they carry, if they carry, and how they carry depending on their state's laws. I simply value my freedom too much to tolerate people who do not belong in my business. People may not like who I am and they may not like the fact that I can defend myself. That is their problem. I do not apologize for either but I will avoid confrontations as much as possible (i.e. I could have asked him what his problem was but didn't) but at the same time will confront people when required.

What I find most sad about all of the experiences here including the OP's (Shelina), is that these are classic cases of people's failure to mind their own business. Anybody who is up in someone's business where they don't belong is someone who is worthy of contempt. Normal people live busy meaningful lives and simply don't have time for other people who aren't in their lives. Normal people couldn't care less about some stranger on a bus, in a store, or walking down a street unless they are blocking your way. People who would hail insults at people they don't even know are nothing but trash. Worse, those who would make threats or even commit violence are outright criminal.

My advice for others here is to avoid confrontations when possible because you don't know who you are dealing with. Examples are ignoring stares, tuning out comments that you overhear, and not overreacting to a direct insult. Sometimes, however, confrontations are required. If a person is up in your face, screaming at you, or doing anything that is so obnoxious that you absolutely have to deal with them, do so as cautiously as possible and be legal about it. If a person is idiotic enough to insult you they are likely to be crazy enough to back it up with violence. This is why I carry a variety of weapons where allowed by law. This is up to the individual to decide but remember your life is worth everything to you. If someone goes outright bananas you have a right to defend yourself but I wouldn't go overboard and know what the laws are. My state is really strong about these things. Had the idiot have lunged for the gun to the point of violently fighting for it, I would have simply blown his brains out. Had he have gotten it away from me, I had a backup knife and needless to say there would have been a lot of mopping required in store isle #9.

There is a lot of trash in this world. Try to stay away from it but understand that you are who you are and you have no one to explain it to or apologize over it and nobody has the right to take it away from you. PERIOD.
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tekla

Actually, what it says is three things.

One, he ain't all afraid of your gun -  drugs or no drugs.
Two, as I often try to point out, having a gun often leads people to make choices that are not in their best interest.  The alley that is not safe for you to stroll down without a gun, is no safer with a gun.
Three, I had a backup knife and needless to say there would have been a lot of mopping required in store isle #9 - I would imagine mostly you.  I've never seen a gringo that can handle a knife in a fight like a homeboy can.
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Naturally Blonde

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After all the horrendous experiences and comments I've read in this thread I'm starting to think I'm very lucky indeed as I've not had any problems relating to gender or appearance. I don't ever think I'm particularly successful or attractive but I'm doing something right even though I don't know what it is. But I have had comments from my females friends who say I look quite natural.
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Bardoux

It's odd because the insults change from each stage of transition. Jennifer Boylan commented how after a few months people started to look at her slightly strangely, a few months further down the line, people found her appearance very strange indeed, until finally she had reached the stage of transition where she was no longer getting looked at all. I guess it's because she was presenting male the majority of this time, but nonetheless i'm sure many of us have been or are in the in-between phase.

I've gotten the 'What is that?' comment a few times, mostly from people who are drunk, but to be honest a stare, a shake of the head, smirk or a disapproving look can say just as much. As Shelina was saying i think people often mistake me for something else from far away and as they come nearer they usually realise the mistake they made. I'm not actually presenting as a woman at the moment, in fact i on occasion let some facial hair grow out and refrain from plucking to try avoid gender confusion when presenting as a male and yet i think people have started to see me regardless of my clothing choices as a person in transition. My thinking is, and this is one of the things that is holding me back going full time outside of work, is regardless of how people perceive me, as long as i am wearing clothing that is assigned to my birth gender, deny myself make-up and accessories, other than longer hair there is always that deniability. I'm afraid that once i start presenting in women's clothing, that if i do get clocked, the situation will be a whole lot worse than the stares at the moment. Mind you i still have been called ->-bleeped-<-got, boy girl and gay boy, so i guess there really isn't any middle ground.
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OrchidBliss

I live in Midtown, Atlanta.

For those not familiar with the area, it's a part of town that's heavily populated with gay males. It's to Atlanta what The Castro is to San Fran, literally.

Of course I'm not a gay male, but the area is also pretty much very trans-friendly. The prominently gay men in the area are generally friendly to any trans or gender bending people in general. The straight people who do live or work in the area pretty much know to be LGBT tolerant. My ex works in retail in the heart of Midtown and said she'll have several non-passable trans or x-dressers ( she can't always tell the difference ) come into her store daily.

The only really overtly rude thing I've had said was some young drunken guy. Walked by me on his way out with "nice tits....Duuuuuuude". I didn't even take it personal. He just struck me as a drunk douchebag who was probably prone to run his mouth to anyone, for any reason.

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Teela Renee

I was in florida and had to go chung-lee on someones ass.   I was shopping for a cute thank you for being a great friend and a hope your feeling better card, for my friend Sour skiddels after her SRS.    Someone kept heckling me and making tons of rude comments, So I gave them the bird and blew them a kiss.  They came over and punched me square in the face. omg did that end bad for the both of us.  All I remenber was smiling, asking if it was my turn to return the favor. and grabbed their head and bounced it off my knee.
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barbie

Quote from: Teela Renee on August 27, 2013, 12:32:00 AM
I was in florida and had to go chung-lee on someones ass.   I was shopping for a cute thank you for being a great friend and a hope your feeling better card, for my friend Sour skiddels after her SRS.    Someone kept heckling me and making tons of rude comments, So I gave them the bird and blew them a kiss.  They came over and punched me square in the face. omg did that end bad for the both of us.  All I remenber was smiling, asking if it was my turn to return the favor. and grabbed their head and bounced it off my knee.

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big kim

The usual ->-bleeped-<-gott,chick with a dick,he she,shim,WTF etc.I was walking down the street minding my own business when an unwashed scrote with bad teeth and worse home done tattoos asked me if I was a ->-bleeped-<-gott.Noticing his Wayne Rooney Manchester United shirt I asked if he was  as I thought screaming at men in shorts was really gay.He took a swing at me,I side stepped it and caught him full in the Adam's apple with the gap between my thumb and first finger using all my force.He went down like a sniper got him,he didn't get up
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