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Started by Kendall, October 08, 2006, 08:03:17 AM

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Kendall

Towards the end of the topic "the man in me" https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,5892.0.html a few of us started mentioning some american and japanese manga/anime that we like, enjoy, find a connection to. With the large list of "Famous Androgynes" posted in entry https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,5597.0.html that are japanese musicians, I got to thinking how popular Nippon's (Japan's) influence on some androgynes and androgynous expressing people in Japan and around the world. I decided to gather some info from the old wise Wikipedia covering various terms maybe unfamiliar.

Nihon / Nippon {Ni=Sun, Hon=Source, land of the rising sun} (Japan as it is commonly said in english) has been really great country that has influenced Androgynes and Androgynous expression for many.

Manga and Anime are some of the two greatest sources for such influence.


Manga is Japanese word for comics and print cartoons. You read Manga.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manga


Anime is  animation originating in Japan, with distinctive character and background aesthetics that visually set it apart from other forms of animation. You watch Anime on the TV, DVD, and at the theater..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anime



Bishōnen (bishounen) is a Japanese term literally meaning "beautiful boy." It describes an aesthetic widely shared in Asia—a young man whose beauty (and sexual appeal) transcends the boundary of sex. The prefix bi specifically refers to feminine beauty, and bijin, literally "beautiful person", is used to refer to a beautiful woman. The bishōnen is typically slender, with a tapered chin, stylish hair, and distinctly feminine facial features, but simultaneously has a male body though may wear feminine attire. ...The aesthetic of the bishonen is first recorded in Lady Murasaki Shikibu's Tale of Genji http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tale_of_Genji , written in about the year 1000 C.E....Prince Genji's beauty is described as transcendental, so much so that "one could have wished him a woman", with a bewitching attraction that is acknowledged by men and women alike. In the original Japanese, however, "bishōnen" applies only to boys under 18. The slang word "bishie" or "bishi" is short for bishōnen.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bishonen

For those older, the word "biseinen" is used. In the place of bishōnen, some fans prefer to use the slightly more sexually neutral bishie [also rarely spelled as bishi] or bijin, but these terms remain less common. The term binanshi was popular in the 1980s.



One new trend that is extremely popular now around the world is Cosplay.
Cosplay a contraction of the English words "costume" and "play", is a Japanese subculture centered on dressing as characters from manga, anime, tokusatsu, and video games, and, less commonly, Japanese live action television shows, fantasy movies, or Japanese pop music bands.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosplay

A specific kind of Cosplay is Crossplay.
Crossplay is cosplay in which the person dresses up as a character of the opposite sex.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossplay


One form of style that is popular now is Gothic Lolita.
Gothic Lolita Lolita fashion emphasizes Victorian-style and Edwardian fashion girl's clothing and often aims to imitate the look of Victorian porcelain dolls.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_Lolita.


In Music, Manga/Anime has influenced the style of expression on some popular musicians and bands in a style that is called Visual Kei.
Visual Kei, (vijuaru kei; literally "visual style"), refers to a movement in Japanese rock which started in the 1980s and became widely popular in Japan by the 1990s. Visual Kei is characterised by bands using dramatic costumes and visual imagery to enhance the band's performance. Members of Visual Kei bands often wear striking makeup, style their hair in dramatic shapes (reminiscent of "glam metal" bands from the '80s) and wear elaborate costumes. Although the vast majority of the musicians are male, band members will often wear makeup and clothing which would be considered 'feminine' or 'androgynous'.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_Kei


Ken/Kendra
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cindianna_jones

Thanks for the lesson!  I have to admit that I've been completely out of the loop when these discussions have come up.  I was so out of touch ???

I learn something every time I log in here.

Cindi
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Kendall

I have always liked anime. I currently am starting to watch a bunch of different series.

I havent read too many manga.

What really got me interested in addition to watching a bunch of anime recently, last week a coworker commented that her friend liked gothic lolita style, and that maybe that would be something I would be interested in or find fascinating.  Also a few have mentioned Mana, one of the main influences in the gothic lolita style.

I have never tried gothic lolita nor cosplay/crossplay, but they seem very interesting hobbies and styles.

Ken/Kendra
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nonie

I know a lot of cosplayers.  Now that I think I could succesfully pull off male characters I'm probably going to start too :)
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Kendall

Yes it does look pretty neat. I have a cute maid dress I made that reminds me of some of the girl school girl / maid types. For the male side, those look pretty impressive the ones I saw pics of.
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Shinya

I don't know if I'll get beating for this ,, but here are some japanese music videos from dir en grey, I posted these for japanese music forum...

Name: Dir en grey - if trans - Garden - 540.wmv
Size: 93MB

The download link is: http://www.sendspace.com/file/qefoei


Name: Dir en grey - GAUZE -62045- 11. ZAN - 720.wmv
Size: 80MB

The download link is: http://www.sendspace.com/file/9l5rzm


Name: Dir en grey - Average Fury - 04 kasumi - 720.wmv
Size: 60MB

The download link is: http://www.sendspace.com/file/evmofj


Name: Dir en grey - Average Fury - 01 Child Prey.avi
Size: 20MB

The download link is: http://www.sendspace.com/file/pu2ukw


Name: Dir en grey - Average Fury - 02 Mr. Newsman.avi
Size: 20MB

The download link is: http://www.sendspace.com/file/lpd4kv


Name: Dir en grey - Average Fury - 03 Drain Away.avi
Size: 20MB

The download link is: http://www.sendspace.com/file/pzjizf


Name: Dir en grey - Average Fury - 04 kasumi.avi
Size: 19MB

The download link is: http://www.sendspace.com/file/tuchaq


Name: Dir en grey - Average Fury - 05 Obscure from Blitz 5 Days.avi
Size: 20MB

The download link is: http://www.sendspace.com/file/6u223f


Name: Dir en grey - Average Fury - 06 The Final.avi
Size: 20MB

The download link is: http://www.sendspace.com/file/9j2l3v


Name: Dir en grey - Average Fury - 07 Machiavellism.avi
Size: 19MB

The download link is: http://www.sendspace.com/file/fj4j7n


Name: Dir en grey - Average Fury - 08 saku (restricted ver).avi
Size: 19MB

The download link is: http://www.sendspace.com/file/rdo5t1


Name: Dir en grey - Average Fury - 09 kodou (restricted ver).avi
Size: 20MB

The download link is: http://www.sendspace.com/file/0iqins
Posted on: October 21, 2006, 12:29:30 PM
Again , I have receiverd a message about links.

These links are are videos that I uploaded myself on a file share site. There is a linited time these are avilable.

These videos are not found on the net at large unless you are part of a p2p group.

I have no intent to cause trouble for anyone, but if this such a bother to this forum and it rules then I guess I will not post anything of informational or entertainment value that I feel is valid.

If this is not part of Androgyne then it may be moved or deleted. If it is moved I will no longer post things that are to me Androgyne, if deleted then I will remove myself from this site, because it is now clear to me that my ideals and ways of thinking appear to conflict with this forums rules.



Plus I was unable to reply to the message received, so here is my reply.
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Fusion

oh, i shud definetly try sum crossplay for holloween this year...I still havent even come up with a costume idea  yet  :-\
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