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What do YOU say when someone asks if you're trans?

Started by Arch, October 18, 2009, 09:01:38 PM

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This thread was inspired by something Kate said in this very same forum--and by a recent experience I had with an acquaintance who was outed in public by a pretty tactless individual.

Let's say that someone asks if you're trans, and you don't want to admit to it. Do you have a ready comeback to use, or one that you have used?

I was thinking that if someone asked me, I would pretend to misunderstand--act like they had asked me if I were an MTF. Tell them that I've never wanted to live as a woman (it is so true) and then just leave it at that.

I'm not sure what I would say if the person pressed the point or if he or she became more specific about my being an FTM. But my response has the virtue of not outing me inadvertently if someone wonders whether I am an MTF but doesn't use that actual term.

What do YOU say in such a situation?

(I appreciate that some of you might not care one way or the other, but I care very much that I not be outed in certain circles.)
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heatherrose



If someone confronts you with their suspicions, in my experience,
nothing that you say is going to convince them otherwise. As long as
there is no sense that the situation will degrade into violence, IMO the only
thing to do, is be as honest as you can without divulging any more than you
have to. When confronted with a similar situation I have said, "I am a woman,
no matter how I was born." I have been able to turn a few potentially bad
situations around and have made a friend or two using the honest approach.   


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I've always wanted to live in a neighborhood with you.

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Since we're together, we might as well say,
Would you be mine?
Could you be mine?
Won't you be my neighbor?" - Fred Rogers
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V M

That's a good question. No-one has asked me thus far. It is something to be prepared for though.

I would prob. say that I'm a woman and figure the guys should just say that they're guys
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Janet_Girl

If your safety is not at stake, any opportunity to education should be taken in my opinion.  I have found that most will only take it at face ( pun intended ) value.


Janet
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Bellaon7

As someone who took many baby steps, at least in the begining, I can relate to the sheer terror of stepping out of your front door in the manner in which you like. But in that same sense, I have no intrest in deep stealth, pre or post srs. I'm not gonne bring it up on my own, but if someone asks, I'll tell them as much as they dare to handle. As soon as you try to go fulltime & are adement about keeping everyone at bay, you only increase their curiousity. The more you deny, the harder they look & the more they talk behind your back.
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jesse

if i was asked i would say i was. i wont deny what is my core being even if personal saftey is at risk in short i might run right after i do it but not w/o a few choice words hurled at them. But in regular company i would admit it sure even if it would be a rude question to ask.
jessica
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Northern Jane

Jessica is right, it is a HORRIBLY rude question to ask in most circumstances. It hasn't happened to me but if it did they would either get an incredulous glance followed by laughter or a slap across the face.

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wabbit2

It really depends on who is asking.  If it was a dangerous situation, i would just be trying to get myself out of there as quickly as possible.

Its only come up a few time for me; mostly by people i'm comfortable with being honest with otherwise the simply answer i use is "why would you ask me that?" mostly as i'm interested in there answer.
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Genevieve Swann

I have never been asked that question. However when I tell someone I'm a crossdresser the first question is "Are you gay?" Then they must be informed that gender preference and sexual preference are two entirely different things.

FairyGirl

I've never been confronted anywhere, but if it was a stranger I wouldn't say anything, probably just tell them how rude that is and walk away. I can't imagine it would happen though I'm sure it has. If a good friend brought it up Idk, I mght say what Heatherrose suggested, but I'm pretty sure my friends that don't know are polite enough to never ask, even if they suspected.
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Dianna

I can't imagine a person saying are you trans?   Most rude people that have the gall to raise the matter are more likely to say - are you a guy or a girl? as the case may be.

It's not happened to me, but if it did I would give very little credence to the question and probably ignore them or say what the hell are you talking about?
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Jamie-o

At the risk of sounding cynical, I think most people will pass you by and just ask someone else behind your back.  I know that was the case with a trans girl I used to work with.  I was one of the managers at the store, and several people asked me if she "used to be a he".  My reply was always, "I don't know, and it really wouldn't be my place to say, even if I did."  Now, she was not trying to be 100% stealth, so when she started talking about/recommending people read She's Not There by Jennifer Finley Boyle, people pretty much went, "Ah, O.K.  Curiosity satisfied."  And that was that.  It ceased to be an issue.

I think, though, if I were asked at some point after becoming completely passable, and I didn't want people to know, I'd just look at them as if they were crazy and say, "Why would you think that?!" And then do the "Wow, what a weirdo!" headshake and walk away.
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FairyGirl

you could always reply "gee I was wondering the same thing about you" lol

Girls rule, boys drool.
If I keep a green bough in my heart, then the singing bird will come.
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MaggieB

It has never happened to me even when I was sitting at a table with three little children.  Normally, they are curious and will ask or say something.  Honestly, I have not prepared myself for that type of question and thanks to this thread, I will begin to do so.  My first instinct is to display an irritated frown and just shake my head in a dismissive manner, not saying anything.

One comment in this thread has been on my mind about passing.  What if we only think we pass but people are only being nice or they snicker/comment when out of earshot?  I haven't seen evidence of that either but it certainly seems plausible if not expected.  Then again, how would I ever know?  If it doesn't affect me directly, why should I care?

Maggie
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Northern Jane

Quote from: Dianna on October 19, 2009, 08:15:02 AM
.... are you a guy or a girl? .... It's not happened to me, but if it did I would give very little credence to the question and probably ignore them or say what the hell are you talking about?

A number of years ago while wearing coveralls and my hair up under a ball cap and working on a piece of farm machinery with a couple of men, a group of teenage boys walked by and I heard one of them ask his friends "Is that a girl or a guy?" I suck my head out and said "Whichever you are looking for sugar, I am the other!" - it got laughs from his friends and snickers from the guys I was working with.  ;D
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kae m

Quote from: wabbit2 on October 19, 2009, 04:39:43 AM
Its only come up a few time for me; mostly by people i'm comfortable with being honest with otherwise the simply answer i use is "why would you ask me that?" mostly as i'm interested in there answer.
When I get to a point of passing pretty consistently, this is my plan.  Until then, I've heard the "is that a guy or girl" comment a lot of times now.  It sucks, but I do look as androgynous as possible when I'm in boy mode so I guess that's bound to raise questions.  The question has never been directed at me, usually it is just someone rudely thinking out loud, or asking someone else.  The even less tactful people point, too. :-\
I usually ignore it and keep doing what I'm doing but I do become very aware of my surroundings.  To be honest the last thing I would want is to confront someone on it because for all I know they're just looking for confirmation to hurt me.  I'm sure there are plenty of comments I don't hear, and other comments that I read too much into.
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Bellaon7

If I was confronted in a very despectful way, I would put on my best wild eyes,  crazy smile, & ask in a very sultry voice ask "how bad do you wanna know?"
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Nicky

Well, I would just say yes.

But if you are worried about others overhearing and not wanting to be outed, I think something like "what's that?" would work and if they reply to that say "why would you even ask someone that? , way to go making me feel good, good one  ::)"

I really don't think there is call to be hostile about it, there is enough hostility in the world. Most people ask stuff like this out of ignorance.
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Arch

The guy who was bothering my friend simply would NOT go away, nor would he take "I'm a guy" for an answer. He was a little mentally out of it but had an acquaintance who is FTM. Kept calling the acquaintance "she." Uh-huh.

For me, the worst thing was that my friends and I were sharing an auditorium with a bunch of other men, and one or two tables had gay men that I go to meetings with but am not out to. I must admit that I was thinking that the guy was going to start in on me next, but he didn't. Fortunately, there was quite a bit of noise cover--music, plus conversations between lots of guys at all the tables. And our table was over in the corner.

But it did get me to thinking. I love going to the gay men's group; what WOULD I say if one of them asked? And what would I say if one of my students asked about me? I have professor ratings on Rate My Professor that I haven't been able to get rid of yet; if my students ever look me up, they'll get four or five comments that use female pronouns, four or five that use male pronouns, and a couple that strategically use no pronouns. And people at school do slip up occasionally (the janitor did it just last week and told my student that "she"--meaning me--was just around the corner in office XXXX. Fortunately, it's obvious that the janitor's first language is not English, so I think my student saw it as an ESL mistake).

But it did get me to thinking. I don't want to be the ->-bleeped-<- Professor to my students. It's none of their damned business. And I especially don't want to be outed in my men's group. I've finally found a home of sorts in that group--something I've wanted all my life--and I sure as heck don't need them thinking that some female has invaded their all-male space. I'm so much like them that many of my life experiences parallel theirs--to such an extent that I can be completely honest (if selective) about my GAY childhood, adolescence, and early adulthood. I just don't want to lose that connection or damage it in any way. So I thought I should have a few responses ready, just in case.

For the record, I have had complete strangers exchange very loud is-that-a-boy-or-a-girl comments among themselves about me, I've had them call me "it" and say things like "What is THAT?" at me, and I've had a few people actually ask me to my face, rudely, if I am a boy or a girl. But, oddly enough, all of that was years ago, pre-transition. None of it in the past year. Maybe people are generally more accepting of gender ambiguity in the twenty-first century. Maybe.
"The hammer is my penis." --Captain Hammer

"When all you have is a hammer . . ." --Anonymous carpenter
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K8

I learned long ago that if someone insults me to just sweetly say "thank you" as if it was a compliment.  It usually flummoxes them and they move on to something else. :)

With that in mind, I am not going to deny being trans but may resist opening up to someone who is being an idiot.  I always figured I'd just ask them why they think so (for my own education), and see how it goes from there.  I might explain that I am a woman but have had a bad hormone imbalance that is finally under control (and thank you for noticing, you jerk).

Under a situation like Arch's, if I had my wits about me I would just tell the jerk I am fortunate enough to be trans so that I could be both male and female instead of just male and stupid.

It depends on the situation.  I don't hide and have not found any reason to yet.  I think if you can stay in control of the situation and deflect the accuser, you will fare better.  But then, I haven't been confronted with the situation yet. ::)

- Kate
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