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hips growing out after SRS

Started by gothique11, November 02, 2009, 03:29:40 PM

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wilde

Quote from: gothique11 on December 18, 2009, 05:26:25 AM
Maybe it is the T removal. My T levels are about the same pre and post, except I now I don't take blockers. I have found, however, lots and lots and lots more changes after surgery. So, yeah, Surgery seems to of made a difference in a lot of areas. This last year has been insane for changes.

I wasn't sure if I should PM you but I thought other people on this thread might be curious to know as well: Can you elaborate on the the specificity of changes? Positive/Negative? Areas of change? Rate and degree/measure of growth or shrinkage. Also, when referring to surgery were you speaking about an orchi (in response to Kara-Xen) or were you talking about SRS (and out of curiosity's sake, with whom did you get the surgery?)

Sorry if my question comes off as probing and overly analytical, I would just love to here more about your experience, and all others willing to share!  :angel:
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gothique11

I had SRS with Dr. Brassard, just over 18 months ago.

I've had so many changes it's hard to really say them all.

I haven't really "measured" other than noting my pants sizes have continually changed, and others have continued to notice. A pair of pants is lasting me a couple of months before I have to end up buying a new pair that's larger. I've also lost weight. Hips get sore often, too.

Waist has gone in lots, as I have lost weight as well. Older shirts are no longer fitting. Sholders have gone in, as I'm finding older shirts to have too big of shoulders now.

Lots of facial changes. My avatar is a pic me, taken a few days ago.

Although I haven't had FFS, some people say I look good and I rarely have a problem with "passing" as people call it. I have thought about getting FFS, however, despite others saying that I don't need it. But, I also know that I tend to focus on my own flaws and sometimes I'm overly critical of myself in a dysphoric kind of way. Example: how an anorexic who's skin and bones still thinks that she is fat -- I get like that with the way I look. Everyone can see me as pretty and tell me that, and I can have no issues with attracting anyone I want, and people may even get jealous over me; meanwhile, I'll beat myself up and feel like the ugliest person in the universe, and undeserving of such attention.
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randi1214

I can only speak from my experience others vary widely.  I was on Ethinyl Estrodoil and synthetic progesterone.  It varied at different times depending on what the doctor and I were trying to achieve.  My case is different because the primary purpose was libido suppression; the feminizing characteristics were just a bonus.  It was experimental and so we made adjustments.  I started off on low dose tri-phasal birth control pills.  I found that when I was over one per day my drive increased as the dose went up.  Progesterone is almost identical to testosterone in structure, so it hits some of the same receptors.  Up to one a day my drive decreased inversely with the dosage. Later we moved me to the Estraderm transdermal patch because it had no progesterone and there were no reported cases of cancer in MTF on Estraderm. 

So here's what I noted.  At about two weeks my nipples started to hurt, I loved that.  by six months my breast had swelled quite visibly, about an A and an AA cup.  At first I noticed that the skin of my breast was sensitive but the tissue underneath became less able to sense touch as the tissue pad increased.  Over time I don't notice this, either because nerves have infiltrated the new growth or because I had gotten used to it.  At first the growth was just under the nipples and slowly spread out to form a number of branches.  Pretty quickly you can feel them bounce, I love that.

After a few years I used the patches.  What neither the doctor or I paid attention too was that even though the pills and patches have comparable doses the patches cause a serological Estadoil level nearly 20 times as high.  This happens because the medication goes right to the blood instead of through the GI tract into the liver to the blood.  That sounds great, however within two years I started having TIA (six of them) They are small strokes.  This means it was causing blood clots which are VERY serious and can kill or disable you.  I've lost 50% of my hearing, everything over 4000 Hz is just screaming in my ears as well as some loss of verbal expression ability, and some shorter term damage.  The TIA's stopped when I decided it was time to go into menopause.  On the upside my breast doubled to a B cup and a small A cup.  I am quite asymmetric. The right breast formed roughly one ring of lactiferous ducts the other several layers.  I'm working on balancing that right now with a device similar to the Brava System. 

Other changes, I had a pretty good sized derriere already, but I noticed no change there, however I didn't start until my 40's.  I used to need sunglasses in bright light, I became much more tolerant.  Sweetness, everything tasted sweeter, I always wondered how chicks tolerated three bean salad, now I know.  Hair, I got back about 1/3 of my male pattern baldness in two months.  It goes away after two months off estrogen and comes back each time I start.  I loose lots of body hair, cleaning the shower was a mess for a while.  I measured my average beard whisker diameter at 1/3 smaller.  I loved to hold babies, when ever I could talk mothers out of them.  I wanted even more to sit down with the girls and chat.  Not that it did any good because women clam up and give you the floor when a guy walks in.  (There's a thread here on male privilege.  I wonder why no one mentioned that there are a string of female privileges too?)  As for body strength, I don't know.  I'm 6'6" and 230#, I'm so strong that virtually no one matches me.  A decrease would only put me back in the upper averages anyway.  I was dramatically less aggressive.

randi1214
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deviousxen

Quote from: gothique11 on December 19, 2009, 06:12:13 PM
I had SRS with Dr. Brassard, just over 18 months ago.

I've had so many changes it's hard to really say them all.

I haven't really "measured" other than noting my pants sizes have continually changed, and others have continued to notice. A pair of pants is lasting me a couple of months before I have to end up buying a new pair that's larger. I've also lost weight. Hips get sore often, too.

Waist has gone in lots, as I have lost weight as well. Older shirts are no longer fitting. Sholders have gone in, as I'm finding older shirts to have too big of shoulders now.

Lots of facial changes. My avatar is a pic me, taken a few days ago.

Although I haven't had FFS, some people say I look good and I rarely have a problem with "passing" as people call it. I have thought about getting FFS, however, despite others saying that I don't need it. But, I also know that I tend to focus on my own flaws and sometimes I'm overly critical of myself in a dysphoric kind of way. Example: how an anorexic who's skin and bones still thinks that she is fat -- I get like that with the way I look. Everyone can see me as pretty and tell me that, and I can have no issues with attracting anyone I want, and people may even get jealous over me; meanwhile, I'll beat myself up and feel like the ugliest person in the universe, and undeserving of such attention.

You pass though. Means you're certainly going in the right direction. And you're not undeserving of attention, I don't think anyone is...


Whooooo! Really random drunken comments, gotta love em'!
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Fer

It'd be a nice treat but I haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary since my GRS either. 
The laws of God, the laws of man, He may keep that will and can; Not I. Let God and man decree Laws for themselves and not for me; And if my ways are not as theirs Let them mind their own affairs. - A. E. Housman
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deviousxen

My friend just felt them and said they jutted out like hers ._.


They're really not THAT big but apparently they stick out of my body a little... Maybe by contrast cause I'm so bloody skinny. I know they're a LITTLE bigger and rounder. Not much but wow, that was an odd night.
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june bug

Absolutely.  After my orchi, it felt like overnight I was seeing serious fat shifting and shaping.  The most shocking thing for me was how much of a challenge it had become to keep my belly firm!  I had been doing HRT for years and had decent fat redistribution, and could go a little while between work outs and still have killer abs.  Now, if I go a week with out yoga / crunches, I start to lose definition FAST.

My therapist made a great comment about it... "You're belly is getting ready to make babies!"

Ha ha.  I wish!  :(

... but yeah, my thighs are kinda ginormous now, but in a good way.  I used to think shaving took a long time before (I'm 6' 2"), but now it's a real chore with how much surface area there is to cover.

Not complaining though... totally loving it. :)

P.S.  After my orchi I went off spiro, and pretty much halved my E dosage.  Went of Progesterone long ago.  Once again, really happy with the results... didn't really do much for my boobs though. :(
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milktea

estrogen helps maintain youth, that's why women after menopause age quickly. keeping yourself on high dose estrogen definitely slows aging, but too much and you run into risks of cancer.

other factors include genetics, lifestyle and mentality.
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deviousxen

Quote from: milktea on January 13, 2010, 06:54:34 AM
estrogen helps maintain youth, that's why women after menopause age quickly. keeping yourself on high dose estrogen definitely slows aging, but too much and you run into risks of cancer.

other factors include genetics, lifestyle and mentality.

Now if only there could be a regimen of other chemicals that cancel out the carcinogenic side effects of estro... So we could all do higher doses more safely.

Like some kind of weekly treatment that had other hormones to kinda cancel it out a little.
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Felicity

Wow, I wish my body developed in a more feminine hourglass way before and after SRS. I do not know why, but there has been really little real significant change to my basic body shape prior to and after my SRS that had occurred more than five years ago. This has really surprised me very much. If it were not for my breast implants, I am not certain that there would be much change as fare as my figure, as shocking as this sounds. I think that a few of the reasons for my lack of development has been my age at transition, in my mid 40s; that I have always been quite thin for my height before and after SRS, 125lbs. at about 5'9"; and a lack of consistency in medical care during HRT and SRS. It also my be a result of the type and amount of HRT I have been given over the years, depo estrodial. I find this baffling. My measurements are roughly the same as they were before I started HRT and SRS for the exception of my breast implants! My hips have remained at about 35" and my waist at about 25".
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Silver

Quote from: Felicity on January 14, 2010, 01:37:26 AMMy hips have remained at about 35" and my waist at about 25".

What's wrong with that? That's not a feminine hourglass? Then I don't know what is.
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milktea

shoulder width! thin small shoulders help a lot more than a 25" waist
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Silver

If you say so. You look fine to me.
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jade

I had butt implants put in and had fat grafting done to my hips in December '09. It was worth the pain. However, I want more volume because I like the dramatic look so I will be doing more procedures in the future. I was advised not to go ahead with the hip implants because they restrict movement and they can shift over time, but they do exist.
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deviousxen

Quote from: jade on February 02, 2010, 05:22:52 AM
I had butt implants put in and had fat grafting done to my hips in December '09. It was worth the pain. However, I want more volume because I like the dramatic look so I will be doing more procedures in the future. I was advised not to go ahead with the hip implants because they restrict movement and they can shift over time, but they do exist.

is the fat graft living tissue? Cause, if so I'd totally do it.
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jade

%70 of the fat grafting survives in the newly injected area, it's a more natural alternative to other methods of augmentation, the more fat the better result you get.
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deviousxen

Quote from: jade on February 02, 2010, 05:31:07 PM
%70 of the fat grafting survives in the newly injected area, it's a more natural alternative to other methods of augmentation, the more fat the better result you get.

Is it human fat cells? Are they donated or are they grown or are they fake?


Also....

So it would be possible to get injections in hip/chest/etc?

That'd be so cool... I could gain weight without eating like a pig for 2 years straight.
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Silver

Quote from: Kara-Xen on February 03, 2010, 12:41:09 AM
Is it human fat cells? Are they donated or are they grown or are they fake?


Also....

So it would be possible to get injections in hip/chest/etc?

That'd be so cool... I could gain weight without eating like a pig for 2 years straight.

I'm going to cut in and say they just move your own fat cells to a more. . favorable area.
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deviousxen

:(


Wait. They don't culture them/grow them?

Wait... That would mean that I needed a lot of extra fat cells :( :( :(.


Today doesn't get any better does it?


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jade

They are real and they are your very own fat cells, they do not clone them. The Fat cells are grafted from one area to another, after liposuction, they purify them in lab conditions and inject them back into the preferred area, for instance, if u have abdominal lipo, they can put it in ur hips and buttocks which is ideal for women. I had lipo to my upper thighs and had 100 cc of my own fat put in each hip, and don't forget the 330 cc round shaped buttock implants.  ;D
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