hips growing out after SRS

[deviousxen]

Can't they grow more cells for cases that are just horribly, sickly skinny? Like stem cell that shiznit and call me in when its ready and inject it in? I Don't care if I have a little fat on my tummy, which I never do, just as long as the other areas are taken care of...

[Sandy]

Can't they grow more cells for cases that are just horribly, sickly skinny? Like stem cell that shiznit and call me in when its ready and inject it in? I Don't care if I have a little fat on my tummy, which I never do, just as long as the other areas are taken care of...

The procedure is called liposcupting, it is a form of liposuction.

As has been mentioned, the surgeon removes fat cells from one area, usually the abdomen, through liposuction, purify them through a centrifuge, then re-inject them into the preferred areas, like the face, hips, buttocks or thighs.  Depending on where they are placed the survival rate of those re-planted cells is anywhere from 50-80 percent.  Those cells that don't re-plant will be sloughed off.  Those fat cells that are removed from the donor area will usually not grow back.  That is the one nice thing about liposuction.

As they are human cells, they cannot be transplanted in anyone else, nor can they be cloned.

For those who are excessively thin, there is only one thing to do and that is to put on fat through diet.

-Sandy

[deviousxen]

The procedure is called liposcupting, it is a form of liposuction.

As has been mentioned, the surgeon removes fat cells from one area, usually the abdomen, through liposuction, purify them through a centrifuge, then re-inject them into the preferred areas, like the face, hips, buttocks or thighs.  Depending on where they are placed the survival rate of those re-planted cells is anywhere from 50-80 percent.  Those cells that don't re-plant will be sloughed off.  Those fat cells that are removed from the donor area will usually not grow back.  That is the one nice thing about liposuction.

As they are human cells, they cannot be transplanted in anyone else, nor can they be cloned.

For those who are excessively thin, there is only one thing to do and that is to put on fat through diet.

-Sandy

Can't they stimulate growth or culture the cells ever?

[Sandy]

Can't they stimulate growth or culture the cells ever?

Not really.  There are experiments that have shown promise, but nothing that has made it's way to human safe procedures.

Stem cell research and cloning may someday lead to a much easier and effective body feminization/masculinization, but for now it is still science fiction.

-Sandy

[Silver]

Can't they stimulate growth or culture the cells ever?

Probably possible, but not enough people actually want more fat cells. Well, not in the US anyway.

[jade]

Skinny bitchez who can't grow fat in the right places will need massive amounts of PMMA. lol

[Myself]

Fat isn't the only thing that makes hips feminine though. The shape of the bone has a lot to do with it too.
It usually looks different, the hips of women are usually wider and the fat spreads across wider area.

[jade]

That's why t-girls who usually aren't blessed with the wider hip bone need to get that area filled out somehow because I personally don't know of any surgery where they can widen your bones.

[Myself]

That's why t-girls who usually aren't blessed with the wider hip bone need to get that area filled out somehow because I personally don't know of any surgery where they can widen your bones.

I think I read sometime that some surgeons when doing bottom surgery sometime pull the pubic symphysis further apart so they have room to make the vagina and entry as well as the urination all fit in.

That pulls the legs a bit further apart and makes the whole pelvis wider as this is what's wider usually.
Post Merge: February 21, 2010, 07:05:05 AM
those here who think they add their hip bones grow a bit after surgery, try to stand infront of a mirror and notice your Q-angle.
Compare it to how you see other women legs coming in and see if it is similar \ /
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If you want you can also try to measure it.
http://www.sportsinjuryclinic.net/cybertherapist/front/knee/q-angle.php

[kyril]

It's true that on average, women's pelvises are wider than men's, but like with any sexually-dimorphic trait, there's a whole lot of natural variation. And the distribution is skewed in large part because pregnancy and birth change the shape of the pelvis; there's hardly any difference at all between men and women who haven't been pregnant. Virtually all of the visible difference is fat distribution. And it takes years of female hormones to develop that fat distribution; teenage girls have very narrow hips, as reflected in the shape of "juniors" clothing.

(I don't mean to be insensitive by suggesting that you ladies compare yourselves to teenage girls, but unfortunately no matter your age, that's where you are in your physical puberty if you're currently transitioning. On the male side, it's a pretty standard comparison we have to make - everything from facial shape to skin texture to voice to hair to acne, at various stages of transition, is best understood by looking at what boys go through, even if we're in mid-adulthood or older.)

To Felicity: With 35-inch hips and 25-inch waist, you have a waist-to-hip ratio of 0.71, or virtually the exact ratio (0.7) heterosexual men have been found to prefer in women. You have a waist size many ciswomen would kill for, and your hips match it perfectly.

[Myself]

It's true that on average, women's pelvises are wider than men's, but like with any sexually-dimorphic trait, there's a whole lot of natural variation. And the distribution is skewed in large part because pregnancy and birth change the shape of the pelvis; there's hardly any difference at all between men and women who haven't been pregnant. Virtually all of the visible difference is fat distribution. And it takes years of female hormones to develop that fat distribution; teenage girls have very narrow hips, as reflected in the shape of "juniors" clothing.

That's completely untrue. The differences in pelvis occur at about 90% and the 10% is women with android-like pelvis, men with gynacoid pelvis is more rare.

The differences are massive before pregnancy.

[kyril]

I didn't say that they weren't different - the shape of the bones is different, and if you can see the actual bones, that's going to be obvious. But the shape of the bones isn't what's visible from the outside, except insofar as it affects the angle of the hip joint etc. What you see is the width of the bone structure, and there is a ton of overlap there, especially pre-pregnancy. Once you add an estrogen-influenced fat distribution, you get a shape that's well within the normal range.

[Myself]

I didn't say that they weren't different - the shape of the bones is different, and if you can see the actual bones, that's going to be obvious. But the shape of the bones isn't what's visible from the outside, except insofar as it affects the angle of the hip joint etc. What you see is the width of the bone structure, and there is a ton of overlap there, especially pre-pregnancy. Once you add an estrogen-influenced fat distribution, you get a shape that's well within the normal range.

Nope, unless the cartilage and bones move or grow in away, the shape people see is still extremely different for most of those people.
The bone is quite wide, the overlap in THIS specific bone structure in the body is minimum, really. The difference only grows bigger after pregnancy but is quite different before. Open your eyes more

[Silver]

It's true that on average, women's pelvises are wider than men's, but like with any sexually-dimorphic trait, there's a whole lot of natural variation. And the distribution is skewed in large part because pregnancy and birth change the shape of the pelvis; there's hardly any difference at all between men and women who haven't been pregnant.

Going to have to second Myself. There's definitely a large difference in nulliparous  (got to love that word) women. In fact, I can say firsthand that men with my pelvis width (relative to body, of course) would be quite rare.

Also, the size of the rib cage is an issue too. Lot of sexual dimorphism there.

[deviousxen]

Uhm.... My pelvis is now sticking out/at a different arrangement than It used to be. The tendons, shifted, yes... But I'm not even freaking kidding the bones EDGE itself is thicker... The bone itself is a bit bigger than it used to be. I'm not suggesting MAJOR bone growth but there DEFINITELY Has been a little. I'm 21. I stunted a lot of my original pubertys growth. Either that or crazyness follows me even here... I've had my friends feel my pelvis and hips and they tell me its DEFINITELY not male shaped anymore...

[linda1lee2]

I don't know why SRS would cause your hips to widen other than you removed a source of androgen by removing the testes. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/At_what_age_does_the_pelvic_bone_fuse says sacrum fuses between 16 and 18 and usually completely fuses by 26. The dominant cause of wider hips is bone, so if you're a normal older person, HRT or SRS won't help widen hips much. All you can hope for is more hip fat. Doctors such as Dr. Osterhout don't recommend hip implants because they don't look natural doing movement.

Some surgeons may remove part of your lowest rib to help your hourglass figure, but many won't because your ribs are there for a reason -- to protect vital organs!

[Debra]

Wow major hip changes! I guess we will see what's in store for me in the next 2 years =)

Of course I started at 28, not 26 but still.

I'm also hoping for more breast changes but we will see.

After going thru vaginoplasty, I kind of dont want to do surgery again haha

[AnitaLife]

I was a pretty young transitioner, have been post-op SRS for 16 years now, and my hips haven't grown literally one inch. I think my body in general has just been fighting me every step of the way and it's frustrating 
I think my only options at this point are either fat-grafting (although I don't have much fat to use), or PMMA injections in Tijuana and hope I'm not raped and murdered along the way, yay me 

[ZeldaHeart]

Any hip growth on hormones will be from fat.  I don't think it really matters what age you are, actually.  Apparently castrato men had round hips, and so do women with androgen insensitivity syndrome.  I think it's all stopping the testosterone very, very early.  If you google jenny Hiloudaki on google images (NOT SAFE FOR WORK), you'll see that even someone who started hormones at the age of 13 didn't really get any development in the hips.  Anita, there is something called stem cell fat injections where they take fat from one area of your body and put it wherever you want.  The fat is then mixed with stem cells and it basically makes the fat permanently stay in that area.  When you gain weight, the gained weight goes to that area too, because fat cells have memory!  So, you could gain a lot of weight and have it moved to your hips.  It's probably very expensive, though.

[Karynm8621]

Ok I'm just seeing this thread and honestly had put much thought into it so soon after Srs. My surgery was march 22nd.  The jeans I wore to Montreal were tried kn for the first time this am.. I wanted to see if I could wear my jeans now after 5 weeks well I have no idea because now my jeans will not go past my thighs easily and in no way will button. My stomach however is flatter than it was when I left forMontreal and on Sunday someone remarks they thought I was losing weight.

So what's up? Are my hips widening since the surgery?