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If Women Were More Like Men: Why Females Earn Less (trans related)

Started by Julie Marie, November 11, 2009, 02:25:32 PM

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Julie Marie

While this is over a year old I think it's pretty interesting.

One of the oldest debates in contemporary social science is why women earn less than men.

A new study looks at this problem in a wonderfully inventive way. In previous studies, academics have looked at variables like years of education and the effects of outside forces such as nondiscrimination policies. But gender was always the constant. What if it didn't have to be? What if you could construct an experiment in which a random sample of adults unexpectedly changes sexes before work one day?

Schilt and Wiswall found that women who become men (known as FTMs) do significantly better than men who become women (MTFs). MTFs in the study earned, on average, 32% less after they transitioned from male to female, even after the authors controlled for factors like education levels. FTMs earned an average of 1.5% more.


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Silver

That's pretty interesting.

Also pretty messed up.

"The new guy is just delightful." Really?
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Miniar

One of the doctors I see regarding my transition told me this;

"Women need to work four times as hard as men to get the same paycheck and the same respect. As a transsexual, you will have to work twice as hard as a woman to make that kind of money and get that kind of respect. That means, that you'll have to work eight times as hard as other men."



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Steph2003

I guess we all need to look at the facts - but does it really make a difference?

Either you're happy or you're not!

What I make later in life doesn't make a difference to me.  I just want to be the woman I was suppose to be;  I know that I'll be much more satisfied with my life once I can live the way I should have since birth!

Hey, JM, don't look at the negative, look at the positive! :)

Love - S
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K8

Quote from: Julie Marie on November 11, 2009, 02:25:32 PM
While this is over a year old I think it's pretty interesting.
MTFs in the study earned, on average, 32% less after they transitioned from male to female, even after the authors controlled for factors like education levels. FTMs earned an average of 1.5% more.

Since women tend to earn roughly 80% of what men do, then MTFs pay a penalty of over 50% of what they would drop if they just became cis-women.  And I'm not sure the FTMs' 1.5% gain is statistically significant.  It sounds to me like TS's pay quite a penalty for transitioning, regardless of direction.

(Of course with all this estrogen in my system, my math may be a little off. ;))

- Kate
Life is a pilgrimage.
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Miniar

Quote from: Steph2003 on November 11, 2009, 06:32:38 PM
I guess we all need to look at the facts - but does it really make a difference?

Either you're happy or you're not!

I concur.
For my part, I don't need much. I'd be happy just working at blockbusters or something like that for the rest of my life... as long as I could make ends meet... ^^



"Everyone who has ever built anywhere a new heaven first found the power thereto in his own hell" - Nietzsche
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Alexmakenoise

Interesting article.

I'm going through kind of career change right now (back in school to gain more skills and better specialize myself).  I'll end up with a new job and new employer.

I've been thinking about the timing of this + the timing of a transition.  I don't know exactly how I'll present myself to prospective employers, but this article adds a bit of insight.
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