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Killer sues DOC for hair removal

Started by Shana A, December 07, 2009, 11:55:56 AM

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Killer sues DOC for hair removal
By Laurel J. Sweet
Monday, December 7, 2009 - Updated 13h ago

http://news.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20091207killer_sues_doc_for_hair_removal/srvc=home&position=also

Hell hath no fury like a transsexual killer scorned.

Rebuffed twice by the state's chief federal judge in his bid for taxpayer-funded electrolysis treatments, Robert "Michelle" Kosilek filed a civil rights lawsuit Friday, charging Department of Correction Commissioner Harold W. Clarke with deliberate indifference and cruel and unusual punishment.

DOC has repeatedly made clear it is only willing to offer Kosilek shaving razors and chemical depilatories.
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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Britney_413

I don't understand why inmates should have more rights than law-abiding citizens. Nobody is paying for my electrolysis and I'm not asking anybody to either. Maybe this prisoner should have thought about this situation before she committed the crime. Additionally, since the crime was murder, she should be thankful she didn't get the lethal injection. What the hell is happening to this country?
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tekla

Additionally, since the crime was murder, she should be thankful she didn't get the lethal injection. What the hell is happening to this country?

Right on, since traditionally we have never given the death penalty for single murders.  So something has really changed when people cry out for it in every case.  And people in jail get to file all those lawsuits because they have nothing better to do, as they are in jail.  Which, BTW, is fine with me, because it sure beats whatever they were doing before, which is how they got to jail in the first place.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Britney_413

I pay taxes. I buy my three square meals a day. I pay for my health coverage. I pay for my rent to keep a place over my head and I pay for any other luxuries I may enjoy. Prisoners get free meals, free room and board, free healthcare, and even cable TV which I can't afford (nor want). Prisons are not supposed to be picnics or hotels. While I support humane treatment of inmates I don't believe they should be getting luxuries that law abiding citizens don't get. Since I have to work for food, rent, and healthcare, I have a solution for inmates: get rid of the cable TV and put them to work. That will likely rehabilitiate these people when they have to do hard labor than just sitting around all day watching murder mysteries on cable (like that is real healthy for criminals). When gangbangers realize that prison is not the place they want to hang out with their buddies perhaps they will stop gangbanging. For those that don't, there is another solution: shoot them.
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tekla

put them to work

The trouble with putting them to work is that they can undercut just about any other labor costs.  If you were out of work at the office furniture plant because the prison up the road is now making say office furniture for a lot less then you can, I doubt that you would find that an acceptable solution.  Letting slave labor undercut free labor is never a good idea.

And I'm not that down on cable TV.  Hell, I worked for years and years teaching at prisons, mostly basic government classes, but I also taught reading - like first grade, Cat in the Hat reading.  And given what I saw inside - none of which is the sort of luxury vacation you're describing - I'd much rather have them watching TV and eating some Homer Simpson diet and all of them coming out looking like the comic book guy in the Simpson's instead of lifting weights and working out and coming out looking like the Hulk.

There are serious problems in the American Criminal Justice System, which is certainly American, definitely a system and very, very criminal - but has very little justice.  Due to rabid right wingers who demanded extra punishment for their 'special' crimes (mostly drug related offenses) with no judicial discretion (mandatory minimums), and the tendency to add 'new' crimes, with very heavy penalties we have a very weird skewing.   So, its possible for someone to say give/sell a 17 year old girl crack cocaine, and wind up serving a longer sentence than if you had raped and killed her in a lot of places.

Moreover, a good 50-70% of the prisoners currently incarcerated (and the US has the highest rate of incarceration in the world, far above 'police states' like China) are in there for non-violent drug related infractions.  There has got to be a better, and less expensive, way of dealing with them.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Britney_413

It could also be labor that doesn't replace other labor. It could even be useless labor such as requiring inmates to write "I will not commit such and such crime" over and over on a white board thousands of times, copying from a dictonary, stacking bricks over and over, etc. The point is that prison should not be a picnic. I do think we need real rehabilitation and I agree with you on doing something about the victimless crimes. If drugs and prostitution and a slew of other things were legalized, it would solve so many problems. I have also heard that most of the inmates are non-violent drug offenders as well. This is something that seriously needs reforming.
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Keroppi

I thought inmates have to work already? (Not counting supermax inmates that spend 23 hours per day in their own cell.)
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gqueering

Quote from: Britney_413 on December 08, 2009, 11:59:02 PM
I pay taxes. I buy my three square meals a day. I pay for my health coverage. I pay for my rent to keep a place over my head and I pay for any other luxuries I may enjoy. Prisoners get free meals, free room and board, free healthcare, and even cable TV which I can't afford (nor want).

Britney, you sound jealous... go kill someone already, then you can live in "luxury" for free too...!    ;-)

The thing that bothers me most about this article is that she is in a man's prison when she identifies as a woman. No wonder she's bitter! Maybe if they took her seriously as transgendered and gave her some hormones she'd calm down a bit.

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Allamakee

Quote from: chris_gqueering on December 10, 2009, 10:29:19 AM

Maybe if they took her seriously as transgendered and gave her some hormones she'd calm down a bit.

The Kosilek story is a long running one, with multiple lawsuits. She is getting estrogen, and I believe, anti-androgens.  Here is a news article from three years ago.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2006/05/31/convicted_killer_seeks_sex_change_operation/
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