Can I ask you ladies a maybe ignorant question?

[K8]

This is a topic that engenders great feeling, but we need to keep it civil and be respectful of each other.

Please state your views as being your views.

And while this whole discussion about who is transsexual and who is merely transgendered is very interesting, it is way off topic.

- Kate

[Dana_W]

There's nothing that screams more MALE than a "supposed" MTF transsexual that wants his cock sucked or wants to enter another person.  Call it bigotry if you want, to me that's disgusting behaviour.  You should be ashamed of yourselves.  Just disgusting,. repudiate behaviour.  go ahead & get all the "okays" you get, you will neverbe nothing more than a freak to the eyes of society.

Yvonne, This is getting kind of ugly, and perhaps not in the way that you intended.

Can we please find a way to express our points without telling people to be "ashamed of yourselves." And calling people "disgusting" and "freaks"?

I think you'll find your underlying views reflect those of many others here. But the way you're expressing them is a bit offputting.

[Nicky]

I think this has gone on long enough so I have locked it.

This is all gotten a bit silly and going around in circles. The reality is there are more than one definition that could be applied to these situations.

Really you should all just talk about the undisputed bones of it. If you identify as a woman, that is what you are regardless of what you want to do with what's between your legs. Same goes for the men. All this talk of who is or isn't a transexual is a waste of time.

I would like to refer you all to our wiki:
https://www.susans.org/wiki/Transsexual#Defining_transsexualism