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Do you believe in ghosts?

Started by Nero, December 13, 2009, 04:52:22 PM

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Cindy

Sorry Einstein just called in
E=mc^2

That is where the energy comes from.  Obviously m = c^2/m so m is very small and energy very large., so there is a lot of energy. This is obvious from the first equation BTW, had too much happy juice yet again. Since there is more energy than matter can energy exist alone? Ghosts?


Sorry
Cindy
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tekla

Where does the flame of a candle go when it goes out?

We're just getting (thanks to Hubble and Chandra) a glimpse at the totality of the universe, and how much farkin' bigger it is then we ever even began to imagine.  Mindblowing stuff.  And its kind of funny, outside of some NASA junkies and scientists interested in such stuff most of the people really don't know about it.  The implications to all of our physics, our astrophysics, not to mention religion, are pretty much being ignored outside of the few.

But the event horizon expanded by billions and billions times billions.  And slowly that is going to seep in.
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gqueering

I believe in ghosts, spiritual beings and parallel universes... and I believe that one day it will all be explained by science (or an evolution of what we call science).  I don't believe anything is supernatural, just waiting to be explained.
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tekla

an evolution of what we call science

What we call science is always evolving because more than anything else, science is a system for questioning.  That gives it a place to grow.
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barbie

Although I am a scientist and have never seen a ghost, I believe in it including life after death and reincarnation.

I think a best material explaining ghotst and life after death is the movie, Ghost: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099653/

I was surprised at how a hollywood movie could depict exactly what I have learned on ghosts in my country, a remote asian country rooted in shamanism.

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NDelible Gurl

I have to say that I believe.

Coming from a Native American culture- what people interpret metaphysical or otherworldly phenomena- is an fact intertwined in everyday life. It's a different look at the things we call ghosts. I'm certainly no expert on the matter but have seen and heard some pretty wacky things. This is a huge universe and everything that lives in it has a voice and way of expressing itself it seems.
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jesse

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at the risk of ridicule from teckla lol i'll tell my story... i was on patrol in northern part of denver county along 104th ave were the city suddenly becomes country and goes into a definable rural area. it was 0200 am and as i was driving this road ( by the way its known for several fatal car crashes from street racers and drifting a problem i blame whole heartily on the movie fast and the furious.) any rates along this road i noticed a heavy fog i was approaching rolling across the roadway. it was dense enough that neither my low beams or spot could penitrate it so i slowed the scout car down considerable and thats when i saw two people half concealed in the fog a woman and a child. they appeared wet and as their is a pond on both sides of the road at this location i assumed a wreck had occured. their appearence was so sudden that i had to brake hard they didnt even appear to notice me so i undid my seat belt and opened the car door only to have my headlights and spot go imeadiately dead my radio started to pick up alot of static at this oint as well. i turned my flashlight nto the two only to see that they had vanished it was the longest wait for anouther car in my entire life
jessica
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tekla

Actually that is very close the kind of thing that the people at the Warfiled see.  The phantom kind of event imprinting.  So, your job, since you have access to records and such is to see if such an accident happened there with victims that match what you saw. 
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Randi

Three days ago my wife went to the garage to get something from there. When she went down the steps she knocked over a plunger and it fell to the floor. When she returned it was standing on the bottom step. When we lived at our previous house we used to get glimpses of someone turning a corner ahead of us but when we turned the same corner no one would ever be there. My son, who was very young at the time, would tell us all the time of his 'playmate' and wanted to know who he was. Nothing happened that was really scary but it was a bit unnerving.

It truly is a very big universe full of things we can't explain. I was a skeptic about UFOs until I actually saw one and one of my friends also saw it. I can't say who or what was flying the craft but it performed manuvers that no conventional aircraft could ever do then it just disappeared into the sky.
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MaggieB

I believe in them too having seen a few things.

One morning as I woke up I saw a woman sitting in a chair at the foot of my bed. I nearly jumped out of bed fumbling for the light to get a better look. Then she and the chair were gone.

On another occasion I was lying on a couch watching the fire in a fireplace at a vacation house. Suddenly, there was this angry face floating in the air above me. My wife saw it too. Then it vanished.

On another occasion, I was at long term airport parking in SF checking my car to see that I hadn't forgotten anything. I forgot about the time and was being obsessive when a man wearing army jacket came out of nowhere and ran by me towards the bus stop. It was the last bus before my flight so if I missed it, I missed my flight and it was critical that I made that flight as it was a family emergency. I realized that I was about to miss the bus and ran after the man towards the bus but when I got on, he was not on the bus or anywhere to be seen. I was the only passenger.

We had a shower stall in one of the places we rented with only a curtain. My wife was showering and lost her balance. She fell backwards against the curtain and of course would have fallen on the sink or toilet but she felt a pair of hands from behind the curtain push her back into the shower stall. It wasn't me and we were alone in the house. She looked all around in the bathroom for the person who saved her but no one was there.

This stuff and dreams that have some prophetic content fascinate me. I wrote my new novel with this material as a recurring theme. I hope to have it published in January.

Maggie
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jesse

Quote from: tekla on December 15, 2009, 08:05:53 AM
Actually that is very close the kind of thing that the people at the Warfiled see.  The phantom kind of event imprinting.  So, your job, since you have access to records and such is to see if such an accident happened there with victims that match what you saw.
ive thought about doing that it makes my skin crawl thinking about it what if their still in the pond and noone knows it...not likely... but possible i dont know how deep the water is on either side of the road. i will do some checking and let you all know tomarrow when i get to work, id be interested to know how something dead could imprint itself or manipulate energy like that to even manifest an imprint im not as smart as some of the people on here so no clue on that at all
jessica
like a knife that cuts you the wound heals but them scars those scars remain
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tekla

Perhaps its like an echo, or they way you see something after a bright flash.
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Robin.

I remember once whenI was around nine or ten, I was in a friends house that was apparently haunted to some degree. That night While I was laying in bed my pillow was pulled out from under my head, and no one else was in the room. After that I curled up in the blankets and didn't get any sleep.

But I can't say I believe in ghosts. I think it may be possible for some sort of force to accumulate in an area due to a long-time prescence of people. For example, the same feeling I get in a house that is supposedly haunted, i get when I'm in high people-traffic places when the're empty. Like a mall that is closing...especially if the lights are out...maybe light enterfears with the force... :-\
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jesse

okies update on possible accident related to my ghost story i went back 5 years in vehicle accident records resulting in fatalities in that location i found two that could be implicated both involved a woman and a female child both were the results of head on collisions where the victims cars ended up in the pond so maybe this is just an imprint somehow.... weird if you ask me
jessica.
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heatherrose


Quote from:  Heather RoseA believer can make a ghost but a ghost WILL make a believer.

When I was a child I was saved from drowning by someone who disappeared when I turned away.

In the kitchen of a restaurant that I used to work at, I followed someone (a few seconds behind them) into the walk-in cooler. When I walked in, there was no one there. Then, an order slip that I needed, to be able to fill an order, went missing. After I looked for it for a good fifteen minutes, I just stood there frustrated and as if someone dropped it from above my head, the order slip floated down in front of my face. I told my supervisor and a few of my co-worker about my experiences and they looked at me as if I had just confirmed that I was out of my mind. A few days later, I walked into the dry storage room. One the people that I had told was standing there staring at a box laying on the floor, her (native american) face was as white as a sheet. I asked her what was wrong, she said, "You're right, this place is haunted, that box just pulled itself off of the shelf and dropped to the floor."

So, yes I believe that there are "ghosts". There are all kinds things that exist, that we can not explain because of our fleshly perspective. I believe that there are several types of hauntings, among them: 1) Intelligent and interactive, such as what I described with the order slip and 2) historical imprinting (the same scenario repeating itself over and over) such as some have described, in places that have experienced great emotional energy, such as major battlefields.
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I've always wanted to live in a neighborhood with you.

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Since we're together, we might as well say,
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tekla

I don't know about weird, so many people tend to have some sort of similar experiences in some ways that it tends to be a universal.  And, again, just because we can't explain it, does not make it supernatural, it may well be very natural and we just can't explain it yet. 

But way out on the far fringes of science, a strange fallout from the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principal is that perhaps our thoughts have an energy, that our thoughts can change things, that our thoughts are a form of energy itself and as such represent the missing dimension in the universe.
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heatherrose


I agree completely. Thoughts are our very essence, without our thoughts we are just a pile of chemicals.
"I have always wanted to have a neighbor just like you,
I've always wanted to live in a neighborhood with you.

So let's make the most of this beautiful day,
Since we're together, we might as well say,
Would you be mine?
Could you be mine?
Won't you be my neighbor?" - Fred Rogers
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tekla

Actually, our thoughts are just an electro-chemical reaction.  But then again, so is a nuclear explosion.
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heatherrose


I believe the electro-chemical reaction is the strings that my thoughts/spirit/soul pull to animate this pile of chemicals.
"I have always wanted to have a neighbor just like you,
I've always wanted to live in a neighborhood with you.

So let's make the most of this beautiful day,
Since we're together, we might as well say,
Would you be mine?
Could you be mine?
Won't you be my neighbor?" - Fred Rogers
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Hannah

Quote from: heatherrose on December 17, 2009, 10:15:14 AM
we are just a pile of chemicals.

speak for yourself chemical girls, personally I'm made from a little bit of fat, and the rest sugar and spice and everything nice.
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