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how to prevent rape

Started by milktea, January 20, 2010, 08:34:13 AM

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milktea

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Flan

Soft kitty, warm kitty, little ball of fur. Happy kitty, sleepy kitty, purr, purr, purr.
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Nicky

I wonder if it has ever actually come into 'action' ?
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Janet_Girl

Not fond of handguns.  And that just looks plain wicked.  And what if you forgot and met your boyfriend for an intimate rendezvous.

I think this would be less deadly.



or maybe



And it can fit in a purse.
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tekla

one word

handgun


Two words, South Africa, where rape is epidemic and such weapons are beyond the reach of most the people who need them.  But hey, don't stop believing that the entire world is your block.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Flan

Quote from: tekla on January 20, 2010, 03:23:06 PM
Two words, South Africa, where rape is epidemic and such weapons are beyond the reach of most the people who need them.  But hey, don't stop believing that the entire world is your block.

in case you don't keep up, they also have unique anti-carjacking tech
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Janet_Girl

Shades of James Bond.  "No Mr. Goldfinger, I expect you to be extra crispy."
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Nicky

Quote from: tekla on January 20, 2010, 03:23:06 PM
one word

handgun


Two words, South Africa, where rape is epidemic and such weapons are beyond the reach of most the people who need them.  But hey, don't stop believing that the entire world is your block.

Just chill out dude, you're being a real ->-bleeped-<- lately. I realise you don't care what people think of you and you consider a lot of people's opinions naive or idiotic and they need enlightening by you. But this is a support site, where people come to feel accepted and safe to voice any opinions - you're just making this an unpleasant place. It does not take much effort to phrase things in such a way that it is not confrontational. You're a smart person, I'm sure you can manage it. Also you might find this give you more influence anyway, people will listen more if you are not on the attack all the time. You always sound so well read and know so much about a huge range of things. You have heaps to offer, but despite this you seem to be lacking in empathy. We let you get away with it far too much. This sort of bullying bull->-bleeped-<- is unacceptable and I think everyone is sick of it.

If I get any more complaints, of which there are plenty, I'm just going to take a much harder line. You can decide to stay and play nice or bugger off, your choice. But hey, if you feel what you are doing is acceptable don't stop believing it, except you won't be on this site much longer.

If anyone has any further complaints about Tekla please let me know.

Thanks
Nicki
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Britney_413

Some of those anti-rape devices are pretty horrible but at the same time the rapist should have thought twice about committing one of the worst types of violent crime imaginable. Personally, I would prefer a standard weapon such as those others already posted (gun, taser, pepper spray). You would want to stop your attacker from ten feet or more away, not wait until your clothes are already torn off. Let's hope that none of us ever have to be a victim of this and for those who already have been, you have my empathy.
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Silver

I remember seeing this before. I thought it was hilarious, really.

Of all nightmares through the ages, they made this one real. Toothed vaginas.

Yes, any rapist who ends up with these spikes deserves it I think. I just doubt it's ever really done it's job. It's more like a novelty item, don't you think?
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rejennyrated

I suspect, here in the UK, where people routinely get arrested and charged with assault if they injure someone who is actually breaking into their home, that anyone using it would be put in prison charged with GBH!

We do have a very strange legal system in the UK which can make self defense, and/or defense of ones property a rather delicate balancing game.

Thankfully I live in the postcode with the lowest recorded crime rate of anywhere in the UK!
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milktea

rejennyrated your comment actually set me thinking if this counts as using more than necessary force, though i'm inclined to image that a jury will find in favour of the victim rather than defendant...i mean this is not burglary or theft, the defendant is going to commit gbh himself...but then again there's no case law to support my view.

silverfang: yes it's called vagina detata

janet: short range weapons are good if you're able to take them out of your purse in the first place before a planned stalking attacker gets you down, and that's not always possible counting in the element of surprise, so for double safety you can combine this with pepper spray ("double-tap" rule from zombieland)...but then again i've read comments somewhere that this thing could not be seen as conclusive evidence of rape if the victim and defendant are bf/gf relations, since it could be some evil bitch trying to get even with her bf who pissed her off..
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Silver

Quote from: milktea on January 21, 2010, 08:44:34 AM
janet: short range weapons are good if you're able to take them out of your purse in the first place before a planned stalking attacker gets you down, and that's not always possible counting in the element of surprise, so for double safety you can combine this with pepper spray ("double-tap" rule from zombieland)...but then again i've read comments somewhere that this thing could not be seen as conclusive evidence of rape if the victim and defendant are bf/gf relations, since it could be some evil bitch trying to get even with her bf who pissed her off..

One time I saw this ad for bras with a pouch in the middle that comes with pepper spray, mace, or a taser.
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ShortNoahUK

Quote from: tekla on January 20, 2010, 03:23:06 PM
one word

handgun


Two words, South Africa, where rape is epidemic and such weapons are beyond the reach of most the people who need them.  But hey, don't stop believing that the entire world is your block.

something tells me the OP was being sarcastic and injecting a bit of humour into a topic that could get depressingly serious.
Chill....I found the post quite amusing...maybe thats just my sarcastic humour though
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Asfsd4214

Here in Australia (and I suspect the UK is very similar), it's in fact illegal to have ANYTHING that could be described as a weapon in your possession in public. That includes pocket knives, pepper spray (which is illegal for private possession here), everything. If you're caught with those items you could be charged. It's ridiculous.

The following is a link from the Queensland police website on the subject of self defense, and it is almost disgusting and borderline dangerous.

http://www.police.qld.gov.au/programs/personalSafety/generalAdvice/options.htm

Worse is that I found that page several years ago, and they haven't made it better since. I've been tempted to actually complain to someone about it.

My favorite parts are...

QuoteAs a rule, the law generally does not allow the carrying of anything that can be described as a weapon. This includes mace, spray dyes, most personal alarms, or any other items which have been specifically adapted, such as sharpened combs, knives carried for the purpose of self defence etc.

QuoteIn an attack or confrontation there are a number of options available that do not require physical self defence to fend off the attacker.

# Faking a heart attack, asthma attack, epileptic fit, faint or mental illness;
# Faking a coughing fit and asking for a glass of water;
# Calling out to a fictitious person behind the attacker e.g. "William, help me" - if you are convincing there is no doubt that the attacker will look around;
# Tell the attacker that you have AIDS/Hepatitis;
# Verbal response - negotiate with the attacker;
# Tell the attacker that "Someone will be coming back in a minute";
# Ask to go to the bathroom to remove tampon/insert diaphragm;
# Be revolting - throw up, defecate/urinate/pick your nose;
# In the case of an attack involving a knife or other weapons, use the 'fantasy' option to remove the threat of the weapon, to enable escape e.g. "I've always fantasised about this happening to me, but the knife makes me feel uncomfortable...";

And that's just the start, there's an entire section explaining how to effectively scream for help.

QuoteOne of the most effective self defence techniques is screaming effectively. An effective scream involves making a loud, guttural roar, generated from the depths of your diaphragm. The scream should be aggressive and 'roar-like' indicating your anger at the attacker, rather than a high-pitched squeal of fear. An effective scream has the potential to achieve a number of results.

I'm actually offended and sickened that this is published on the police website. And with no legal options for defense. It's like they want us to be attacked.
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Janet_Girl

@ milktea   Short range weapons, like pepper spray or tazer, are effective if you have them in hand.  If you feel hinky in a given situation, get armed.  But the best method is to not be in those situations in the first place.  Or be in a group.
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Silver

Quote from: Ashley4214 on January 23, 2010, 07:41:21 PMMy favorite parts are...

And that's just the start, there's an entire section explaining how to effectively scream for help.

I'm actually offended and sickened that this is published on the police website. And with no legal options for defense. It's like they want us to be attacked.

Oh, wow. That's ridiculous. Never would've guessed. "William, help me" Yeah, that'll save you.
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lisagurl

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placeholdername

Quote from: lisagurl on January 23, 2010, 09:14:34 PM
Stay home at night.

That only works until someone comes into your home.  I mean it doesn't happen AS often, but it happens a fair amount.
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rejennyrated

Rape is an utterly terrifying and humiliating experience. In the past I have actually been raped. In point of fact It's happened to me twice, once pre SRS and once after. Both occasions thankfully a very long time ago, but you will understand why I don't tend to admit this often.

So please take it from me it is really not something to joke about. EDIT (I'm not implying anyone was by the way)

Sadly when you are in that situation you realise that you basically have two options: 1. fight and possibly get killed or injured or 2. accept the situation, try to get it over with as fast as possible, and hope that he doesn't kill you afterwards.

I chose option 2. Happily I am still here and undamaged but it's not an experience that you forget easily.
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