how to prevent rape

[lisagurl]

Without that restriction, there is no security, and without security, there is no freedom at all.

No, people do not need restriction. They need responsibility. You do not need a taxing Government if people are responsible. People learn to be responsible from their parents not government paid schooling. The world has gone crazy thinking that as long as they are within the narrow law they are right. Ethics and morals can not be regulated or laws written or enforced to control people. It is a socialist myth. People live better fulfilled lives when they can be responsible for them selves and can have self confidence without government interference. We have less crime when the community supports freedoms and responsibility rather than laws. There is more private charity than when you tax and redistribute the wealth. People are equals not subordinates as you have in big government. We do not need security that only brings depression. Free people have new exciting things happen everyday that challenges them.

[V M]

Don't walk around bra less in pumps with a T-shirt that says "RAPE ME" on the front with "I DARE YA" on the back

[Sarah Louise]

Lets tone things down a bit.

Sarah L.

[Nicky]

No, people do not need restriction. They need responsibility. You do not need a taxing Government if people are responsible. People learn to be responsible from their parents not government paid schooling. The world has gone crazy thinking that as long as they are within the narrow law they are right. Ethics and morals can not be regulated or laws written or enforced to control people. It is a socialist myth. People live better fulfilled lives when they can be responsible for them selves and can have self confidence without government interference. We have less crime when the community supports freedoms and responsibility rather than laws. There is more private charity than when you tax and redistribute the wealth. People are equals not subordinates as you have in big government. We do not need security that only brings depression. Free people have new exciting things happen everyday that challenges them.

This is all very nice and idealistic. In an ideal world I think you are right. But realisticly many people are not nice people, that don't take responsibility for their actions, they don't participate in community. Also I think if you take a different perspective on this - a community that supports freedoms and responsibility rather than laws actually becomes a governing body, a type of government.

I like taxes, I like how my taxes pay for health care so that I can take my child to the doctor whenever she is sick and not have to worry about paying, I like how my roads are tidy and not full of potholes, I like how I get clean water coming out of my taps with no effort from me, I like how I can ring 111 and a fire engine, ambulence or police man will come to my aid, all without cost, I like how our public schools are free, I like how we have parks maintained by the city council, I like that I can call noise control when the neigbours are too loud and won't shut up, I like the security of knowing that if I lose my job I can still feed my family. Taxes are good.

[Pica Pica]

Remind me to stay away from socialist kingdoms. Justice starts with the individual not the government.
Post Merge: January 25, 2010, 05:14:06 PM
Freedom and liberty require no laws to inhibit how a person wants to live. It is not freedom when the government dictates the conditions.

socialist kingdoms? It's called empathy and cooperation, you wouldn't understand it.

[Asfsd4214]

This is an utter waste of time. Both camps here have different ideologies, Individualism vs Collectivism, and neither is willing to see that the other might be just as valid, or at least as valid to the point of making no difference in running a functioning society. 

[Hannah]

My dog is a 150lb Blue Tick Hound and people that would not be the least bit intimidated by me and a handgun give him a wide, wide berth. Dogs don't think twice before they jump to your defense, can sense an attack coming before you can, and will fight to the death for you. I'll take my big, dumb, clumsy "Otis" over a Smith&Wesson any day.

[Flan]

agree to disagree and leave it at that
either be civil or leave the sandbox for more mature participants.

[V M]

I have a Cocker Spaniel, a rather small - med. dog....He's very friendly but also rather protective

Although he did run and hide when three guys tried to jump me about a year ago

The police arrested the guys and then they and the EMTs helped me retrieve my doggy

Other than some bruises, I was okay. The guys were taken to face prior charges and I may have to testify whenever the case comes up here

All in all, it's a good idea to learn some sort of self defense. Even if that defense is called "Run Fast" it is better then some of the other options

Stay in well lit areas and hang with a group whenever possible. A boring friend is much better then a scary stranger

Don't be afraid.....but be aware of your surroundings and ready

I hope that helps 

- Virginia

[Pica Pica]

This is an utter waste of time. Both camps here have different ideologies, Individualism vs Collectivism, and neither is willing to see that the other might be just as valid, or at least as valid to the point of making no difference in running a functioning society. 

I agree that there seem to be those two extremes, to simplify...

Individualism - people use their own initiative and efforts to solve their problems.
Pros: Variation, energy, movement - lots of different solutions and interests flourishing.
Cons: People stomping on each other.

Collectivism - people work together to solve problems.
Pros: Strength in numbers, harmony, cooperation.
Cons: Conformity, mundanity, people expect others to solve their problems.

- Now I think we could synthesise these and some countries (including my own) seem to have tried - so why is it they have created a system that celebrates stomping on each other in a struggle for conformity and mundanity? Seems the wrong synthesis.

[jade]

You just tell them they are doing a big mistake and that you are a man and you have AIDS. 

[Miniar]

You just tell them they are doing a big mistake and that you are a man and you have AIDS. 

And get your face kicked in.

Or, get a "that's okay, I have it too!" type response....

[jade]

okay we will try the other way, surrender and spread our legs wide apart and let them tear us apart inside and cause damage that will require skin grafts and expensive revision surgeries. xox 

[Miniar]

okay we will try the other way, surrender and spread our legs wide apart and let them tear us apart inside and cause damage that will require skin grafts and expensive revision surgeries. xox 

Because those are the only options you have?

[jade]

It was a joke when I said tell them such and such. First of all, I hope it doesn't happen to anyone. Secondly, a self-defense course may be helpful. Having pepperspray is handy and a good kick in the balls if it can be done and scream as loud as possible. From what I have gathered through people I know, rapists like the domination factor and victimising, if a victim keeps cool and acts like she is not so unkeen, it might turn the rapist off. Obviously my word isn't the bible, but that's what i think.

[Miniar]

I don't see rape as something to joke about.

[Alyssa M.]

The reason I hate topics like this is that I don't believe they actually help women; rather they subject women to feelings of guilt if they are raped, because they must not have "done the right thing" to avoid being raped. It is nobody's responsibility to avoid rape (though, sure, there are some things common sense tells you are risky, like going clubbing alone and getting plastered -- but that's not how most rapes happen).

I think the most effective way to prevent rape is to speak out, to make rape victims feel empowered to come forward, to prosecute rapists harshly, to make it clear to everybody that rape will not be tolerated. Because today, far too often, it is tolerated. And not just to speak out against rape, but against all the sexism in our society that makes men think it's okay to treat women as lesser people than men.

If you end up in a situation where you fear you might be sexually assaulted, anything you read on the Internet probably won't apply to the situation; you probably know better what to do than some anonymous stranger who never met you or the rapist.

[jade]

The reason I hate topics like this is that I don't believe they actually help women..........you probably know better what to do than some anonymous stranger who never met you or the rapist.

Well said Alyssa, i couldn't agree more. Its like asking how to prevent any accident or injury, you can take precautions but none can be sure it won't happen. Let's hope it doesn't happen but they do happen so awareness need to be spread amongst victims like you said.

[tekla]

In fact, far and away, if you are raped in the first-world/Western Society, it's going to be by someone you know, in someplace you felt safe - like child abduction, its rare that some random stranger is doing it, and far more likely that its a familiar or, worse, a family member.

[elementalincognitus]

you know, in response to imo overly restrictive laws on carrying personal defense items.... maybe it would be worth any punishment or fine you might get from having one of these.... in a real blitz attack scenario, realistically a pistol or a taser would probably not help.  but a deafening personal alarm or a pepper spray would be worth carrying, illegal or not. 

everyone should be carrying a 'sound grenade' i forget what the real name of it is, but its basically a super loud personal alarm that once activated cant be turned off for a significant amt of time.  it will cause hearing damage if you dont cover your ears, so the potential rapist will need to choose between his ears or you!