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so what do girls do for hobbies?

Started by YellowDaisy, January 24, 2010, 03:03:39 PM

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tekla

Never spent much time around Japanese culture and Chinese culture have you?  They might seem similar from a distance, but they are very different, and, as I said, they really, really don't like each other at all.

And the music is very different.  Very little Japanese music (except the pure traditional stuff) is written in the traditional Japanese pentatonic scale but rather in the Western heptatonic scale.  But most Chinese pop music (like all traditional Chinese music) tends to be written in the pentatonic (and not the traditional Western scale), which to Western ears makes it sound rather sharp - screechy even -  in most places.  Chinese pop music though it uses more synths then an Asia/Yes concert, also incorporates guqin, banhu, yueqin and other instruments that were built and designed for a pentatonic scale, and still favors pentatonic scale singing - or what my friends calls, 'a bag of cats tossed into a river.'

Japanpop like Shonen Knife, or Dreams Come True, or the 5,6,7,8s, or Puffy Ami Yumi are using flat out Western scales and instrumentation to the point where it's almost impossible to tell its Japanese, you'll never mistake Chinese pop for Western stuff.  About the most interesting difference is how much like the 5,6,7,8s, Puffy Ami Yumi, and Shonen Knife its all girls because of how much 'music' in Japan is still pretty much a female occupation.

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tekla

Highly doubtful that anyone outside of the Chinese culture is listening to that.  It's a very insular culture.  It's by Chinese for Chinese people.  Westerners are not encouraged, or even particularity welcome in that atmosphere.  Where Japanpop wants a larger audience, and sings a lot of songs in English (which is why you've heard of Shonen Knife, they got at least a touch of radio airplay in the States), you'll never hear a China pop song done in English because it's a 'dog language' - fit for business, but never for culture.
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PanoramaIsland

They're listening to Chinese pop music because they're Chinese. About the only cultural goods that Chinese cultural producers seem to have any interest in exporting to the West are martial arts movies and food.

And yeah, J-pop is nothing like C-pop.
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V M

Now I want to listen to strange music and play ping pong  :laugh:

And I'm craving Asian food
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tekla

Yeah, I'm going to have to go out for some Szechuan, I can taste the Kung Pao now.



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tekla

If you live in Iowa the ocean is something on postcards and vacations pictures.  If you are a sailor on the coast, it's a living, breathing entity.

Likewise, if your not in the middle of this clash of cultures it might seem silly, or not important.  But the view from the middle, when all of this is swirling in the day to day mix around you, it becomes part of the fabric of your life.  If you are involved in any way with it - and SF, being one of the trade and financial centers for the entire Pacific Rim is a major player in it - then knowing can be the difference between staying in business and going bust.

It's also the polite thing (not to mention the culturally enriching thing) to know a little something about the people who live and work with you.  For the people in those cultures and societies there is a lot of very serious bad blood, few Chinese people don't hold the Japanese occupation of China in WWII as a horrific milestone, with the Rape of Nanjing as it's centerpiece.

For those of us who are not intimately involved, the study of differing cultures, with their various music, foods, art etc. is a very rewarding hobby, if slightly fattening by the time you get to Dim Sum, or are exploring the differences between traditional Italian, Chinese and Mexican bakeries.
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PanoramaIsland

I'm actually with Tekla on this one. Chinese =/= Japanese, in the same way that Texan =/= Californian.

There are little things one notices over time: for example, I see old Chinese men on street corners busking for money with their erhu ("Chinese violin"), but I've never seen a Japanese lady busking with a koto or shamisen. Cultural difference, I guess, although I do wonder if the Chinese haven't simply managed to keep their traditional music more alive amongst ordinary people than the Japanese.

On the other hand, some of the Japanese handicrafts have been kept alive so well that one of them - origami - is routinely practiced by creatively-inclined American children as an antidote for boredom.

It will be fascinating seeing how cultures bend, shift and merge as part of globalization. Surely Japan can't keep its lock on status as the premier producer of nerdy "cool" forever, so who'll emerge next? Will we have floods of pasty white kids going to Indonesian cultural events in 10-20 years time? God only knows. It'll probably have to do with the flow of technological modernization and capital, causing some godforsaken country to grow up over night and sprout an innovative new industry in gaming, or comics, or something new that nobody's heard of yet.
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OnyaKonyaLonya

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gossiping perhaps ?
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Dryad

My hobbies are mainly RPG gaming, including table-top game design, reading, music, sculpting, painting, modern philosophy.. That sort of stuff. I wouldn't say gaming is a life-style; if it becomes that, I see it as escapism, nothing more. Yes; I spend a lot of time with games. I'm not trying to dive into it all-out, though it does seem to become more or less a job. I've been guild mistress for a WoW guild for a few years, and thát's a lot of work, if you're on most guild member's speed dial for when they get in real-life trouble. (Phone ringing at ungodly hours and stuff.)

My first 'cross dresser' experiments were secretly trying on my mom's heels, but my first active 'cross dressing' was in D&D. So not online.
When I discovered WoW, it was like a whole new world opened for me. It was the first ever computer game that kept my interest for more than fifteen minutes, and I went fully female. As far as other people were concerned: My character is female, and that's all you need to know about my gender. I never told people I was female; I just let them believe that. Well; there were a few bumps in the road, there, as one of my guildies fell in love with me. Picture that. Other people tried to get on with me, as well, and that's where I discovered how many men in video games are desperate.  :o
Most people I play with know about my situation, now. But to be honest: That doesn't stop the flirting, though it became more playful, and less serious. And I'm more than fine with that; it feels like I'm appreciated for who I am, rather than what's between my legs.
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Stephanie.Izann

I love building life size replicas from my favorite films. I even have my own stormtrooper armor! lol Can you say nerd?
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MillieB

I have to say that asking what :laugh: girls do for hobbies is a bit like asking what Germans eat for breakfast?

I'll bet if you ran this thread for long enough you would get thousands of different aswers. I have to say though that the pressure to care and spend time on your appearance is much higher for women therefore, I think that women generally spend more time on this (hair, make up, skin care, exercise, fashion etc.) I know that this may seem stereotypical (because it is!) but many women feel that they have to do this in order to acheive their goals in life. Others (like me) just think that it's a whole load of fun! :laugh: But it leaves less time for hobbies.

Oh and Germans like Cornflakes!
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Lyric

It's always seemed to me that many transgendered persons possess an odd sort of sexism within themselves regarding gender roles and gender appearance. This thread started what is probably the most sexist question I've ever seen here. I think any real woman would be very offended to even be asked this. It's quite absurd.

Perhaps if you lived in the 19th century it might seem appropriate to consider hobbies or work activities as appropriate to a gender, but not in the 21st century. While product marketers know there are areas of interest that have more participation by one gender than the other, I think there are no "girl's hobbies" or "boy's hobbies" anymore. Anything you like is something you can do. Period.

Lyric
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Cindy

Quote from: MillieB on May 28, 2010, 09:53:22 AM
I have to say that asking what :laugh: girls do for hobbies is a bit like asking what Germans eat for breakfast?

I'll bet if you ran this thread for long enough you would get thousands of different aswers. I have to say though that the pressure to care and spend time on your appearance is much higher for women therefore, I think that women generally spend more time on this (hair, make up, skin care, exercise, fashion etc.) I know that this may seem stereotypical (because it is!) but many women feel that they have to do this in order to acheive their goals in life. Others (like me) just think that it's a whole load of fun! :laugh: But it leaves less time for hobbies.

Oh and Germans like Cornflakes!

But do you pour milk or Fosters over them for an Aussie breakfast :laugh: :laugh:

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Stephanie.Izann

I'm a big Star Wars nerd and I make life size replicas of props from those films and others. LOL ;D
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Pica Pica

Quote from: MillieB on May 28, 2010, 09:53:22 AM
I have to say that asking what :laugh: girls do for hobbies is a bit like asking what Germans eat for breakfast?
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Oh and Germans like Cornflakes!

Funny, because in my circles 'a german breakfast' is a term that means 'any list of seemingly unlinked, random and incongruous objects' because there is so little theme to one. Rolls, toast, ham, car tires, cheese, doughnuts, nuts, squirrels, an elephant - that's a german breakfast.
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MillieB

Quote from: Pica Pica on May 31, 2010, 02:27:42 PM
Funny, because in my circles 'a german breakfast' is a term that means 'any list of seemingly unlinked, random and incongruous objects' because there is so little theme to one. Rolls, toast, ham, car tires, cheese, doughnuts, nuts, squirrels, an elephant - that's a german breakfast.

Okay, didn't know that, but it makes my original answer almost sensible now as I think that describes what girls do for hobbies nicely.
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MiakoSamuio

Quote from: MMarieN on January 24, 2010, 03:25:48 PM
Girls can do whatever they please. No need to restrict yourself because of gender.

Well said :D
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YellowDaisy

Quote from: Lyric on May 28, 2010, 11:17:58 AM
It's always seemed to me that many transgendered persons possess an odd sort of sexism within themselves regarding gender roles and gender appearance. This thread started what is probably the most sexist question I've ever seen here. I think any real woman would be very offended to even be asked this. It's quite absurd.

Perhaps if you lived in the 19th century it might seem appropriate to consider hobbies or work activities as appropriate to a gender, but not in the 21st century. While product marketers know there are areas of interest that have more participation by one gender than the other, I think there are no "girl's hobbies" or "boy's hobbies" anymore. Anything you like is something you can do. Period.

Lyric
is there a need for the hostility? it's not like i was saying women shouldn't be allowed to vote, or that they should sit in the back of a bus. it was just an honest question. i wasn't trying to insult anyone, but what do i care. i started this thread months ago, i haven't been on since, and apparently i have nothing better to do with my time.
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V M

I don't have a problem with the thread and obviously others have enjoyed it also

The only thing I may have done different is word it "So what do all of you do for hobbies?"
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accord03

my girl plays dress up. LOLLLL i guess thats one hobby for the girls :P
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