Am i missing the point?

[Radar]

I'm surprised at all the bio-males who pee sitting down (when they're not taking a poo). I don't really know any guys who normally sit to pee.

[Ender]

I'm surprised at all the bio-males who pee sitting down (when they're not taking a poo).

I've gotta second this; it is kinda surprising.  It's actually made me feel better (less out-of-place) about sitting in a public restroom.  I still prefer urinals when I get the chance (or if the toilets are filthy).  The novelty hasn't quite worn off for me, yet.  It's also funny to go into the restrooms of older buildings (60-100+ years old) that haven't been remodeled; I never knew there were so many different/unusual/old-school urinal designs out there...

[sneakersjay]

Jay-

whaddaya mean no more packers, even if you have to sit and pee?  You're getting medio or plasto? sitting is for pussys.

Well, There will no longer be a pussy.  Wrong choice of words there, dude.

But occassionally after lower surgery, the length is too short to get over the fly, or there are stream issues, or it takes a few months or more to figure out how to aim said new stream appropriately not to wet the pants around the fly.

I'd rather have a small penis and have to sit than have to use a packer forever.  I'm taking my chances with a meta.

Jay

[Radar]

Jay, I've heard that after a meta you still can't pee standing up. So there are cases where you can?

[Ender]

Well, There will no longer be a pussy.  Wrong choice of words there, dude.

But occassionally after lower surgery, the length is too short to get over the fly, or there are stream issues, or it takes a few months or more to figure out how to aim said new stream appropriately not to wet the pants around the fly.

I'd rather have a small penis and have to sit than have to use a packer forever.  I'm taking my chances with a meta.

Jay

Yeah, that's my biggest concern with a meta--that there won't be enough length to let me pee standing up.  For me personally, it's convenient in some cases, and the option would be nice, y'know?  I figure if I get a meta done and the length just isn't enough or the stream is unpredictable, a sort of modified STP would be useful, along the lines of a short flexible tube that I can keep in my pocket and just place over the 'exit hole' when necessary.  I imagine it would be a little quicker/easier to place compared to what I have currently.

Another thing about length that I've always wondered, but haven't had the guts to ask anyone who actually owns a penis... at what age can boys start peeing standing up?  I mean, when they're young--but still old enough to be potty trained--their junk is probably still really short, so... I wonder just how long you really have to be to STP.

[Nimetön]

Another thing about length that I've always wondered, but haven't had the guts to ask anyone who actually owns a penis... at what age can boys start peeing standing up?  I mean, when they're young--but still old enough to be potty trained--their junk is probably still really short, so... I wonder just how long you really have to be to STP.

No one's ever asked me that before...  He has sufficient length long before he can stand upright; if he can stand, he can urinate.  Hopefully, he has the presence of mind to choose an appropriate venue, and to aim.

The entire idea of bottom surgery has always baffled me, I admit.

- N

[Silver]

The entire idea of bottom surgery has always baffled me, I admit.

If you don't mind my asking, how so?

[tekla]

As for me, and the two boys I raised, the STP from the start.  Had a little box to stand on, you learned to pee with balance.  Good practice for later when we had to pee while drunk.

[Nimetön]

If you don't mind my asking, how so?

While I might find a vagina disturbing, I could get used to the idea; to paraphrase Alan Hart, you look at what you were born with and you make of it what you sensibly can.  If I chose to stop at HRT/Top, I would have a recognizably male and human body (thought sexually very confusing) with full human function, and would be visibly male to my fellow professionals.  As for my private life, I can't quite imagine why I should find being penetrated, or even getting pregnant, to be particularly disturbing.  (I actually rather like the idea of being pregnant, honestly.)

To choose bottom surgery is to incur significant nerve damage and scarring, with the risk of various complications, resulting in (at best) an obvious and dysfunctional deformity, and for this privilege, I would pay a great deal of money up front and would continue to pay the opportunity cost for the remainder of my life.  Even life-long chastity would seem a better choice for me.

- N

[sneakersjay]

Jay, I've heard that after a meta you still can't pee standing up. So there are cases where you can?

Depends on your length.  I have read personal accounts and have seen pics of it, so it is possible.  Just not immediately after surgery.  Takes a few months or many more, easily.

After pumping these last few weeks I have a taste of what is possible, and can't wait!!


Jay
Post Merge: February 01, 2010, 02:36:01 PM

I figure if I get a meta done and the length just isn't enough or the stream is unpredictable, a sort of modified STP would be useful, along the lines of a short flexible tube that I can keep in my pocket and just place over the 'exit hole' when necessary.  I imagine it would be a little quicker/easier to place compared to what I have currently.

Exactly this. 

Another thing about length that I've always wondered, but haven't had the guts to ask anyone who actually owns a penis... at what age can boys start peeing standing up?

My son started at about 4.  But they are closer to the potty and/or toilet.


Jay
Post Merge: February 01, 2010, 03:42:50 PM

While I might find a vagina disturbing, I could get used to the idea; to paraphrase Alan Hart, you look at what you were born with and you make of it what you sensibly can.  If I chose to stop at HRT/Top, I would have a recognizably male and human body (thought sexually very confusing) with full human function, and would be visibly male to my fellow professionals.  As for my private life, I can't quite imagine why I should find being penetrated, or even getting pregnant, to be particularly disturbing.  (I actually rather like the idea of being pregnant, honestly.)

To choose bottom surgery is to incur significant nerve damage and scarring, with the risk of various complications, resulting in (at best) an obvious and dysfunctional deformity, and for this privilege, I would pay a great deal of money up front and would continue to pay the opportunity cost for the remainder of my life.  Even life-long chastity would seem a better choice for me.

- M

As a transguy who actually used his vag sexually AND to bear 2 children, I never did like or enjoy those parts.  I, too, thought I would never mess with my junk, and if you read around these forums I'm sure you can find posts of mine that state just that.

That said, it's one thing to be in the early stages of transition, or even social transition; quite another to be fully medically transitioned.  There is more of a disconnect when you look 100% male, are treated as male, and are legally male with everyone including the federal government, and to still have gender non-normative junk.

I've had good growth downstairs, and I  find the fact that it is 'stuck' in an abnormal postion annoying, and I find vaginal secretions annoying and gross.  I also plan to travel to more conservative areas, where having gender-normative  junk may play a role in how I am treated esp. in emergency medical situations.  I'd rather be a guy with a small, slightly abnormal dick, than continue on with my current junk.

Some people never change their minds, others do yet can't afford the surgery, and yet others, like me, figure I'm old enough to make an informed decision, I have the cash, and I still have my health.  I don't have time to wait for bigger and better procedures.  I'd rather have a small, functional penis for 20-50 years depending on how long I live, than a potentially bigger one for 10 years.

Jay

[tekla]

4?  Isn't that about a year and half late?  Really.

[Elijah3291]

I'd rather have a small penis and have to sit than have to use a packer forever.  I'm taking my chances with a meta.

agreed, I want a meta too

[Carson]

I bought an STP but think that it is too much hassle for what its worth, I have no problem sitting to pee. I plan on getting a meta and if I can stand to pee after that it would be great, but if not, i'll live.

[sneakersjay]

4?  Isn't that about a year and half late?  Really.

TBH I don't really remember.  He was the kid who tried to kill me in his early childhood, so it's all a blur!  LOL  Though he did sit for quite a while.  And I'm talking about standing to pee using the toilet, not the potty seat (he never stood at that) or peeing outside standing.  That he did very early, LOL!  And not always in proper company!


Jay