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Started by Nigella, February 09, 2010, 04:02:38 AM

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LordKAT

I lost 1.5 inches. I think I'm just getting old.
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Naturally Blonde

Quote from: stardust on February 10, 2010, 06:33:01 PM
I can only speak as I find, I have no theories just experience and all theories are just that theories. Personal experience on the other hand is something to consider. I even can home and measured myself again tonight just in case I had made a mistake, no mistake still the same. nearly two inches shorter. I think it is more to do with muscle and rotation of what you all ready have rather than the actual bones themselves, but hey, who knows. HRT and genetics have different outcomes as we are all individuals. What happens to one person will not be the same for another. Its a pot luck lottery of how your body will change.


Stardust

I wish I could loose 2 inches in Height! that would make me 5' 5" which is an average height for a female..

It's strange that some things about HRT do work for some and not for others and I'm not sure why or how?

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Myself

Quote from: Naturally Blonde on February 11, 2010, 09:47:40 AM
I wish I could loose 2 inches in Height! that would make me 5' 5" which is an average height for a female..

It's strange that some things about HRT do work for some and not for others and I'm not sure why or how?

I think it comes down to weight, stance and age more than real loss. In my case I truly believe it was just a mis-measurement.
Hey 5'7 is awesome! I'd want to be 5'7
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Naturally Blonde

Quote from: Myself on February 11, 2010, 10:00:40 AM
I think it comes down to weight, stance and age more than real loss. In my case I truly believe it was just a mis-measurement.
Hey 5'7 is awesome! I'd want to be 5'7

I still think I'm a bit tall for a female at 5' 7".....now 5' 5" would be absolutely perfect!
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Myself

Quote from: Naturally Blonde on February 11, 2010, 10:03:56 AM
I still think I'm a bit tall for a female at 5' 7".....now 5' 5" would be absolutely perfect!

I have a lot of female friends at 5'7 and a few others who'd like to get there. At 5'4.5 or so I feel I'd love a couple more inches. I don't mind my height, I'd like a bit taller but if you are at 5'7 and want to be shorter because it's more feminine that's exaggerating, really.
There are a lot of females at your height, PLENTY of them. It counts as a very good height, many girls want to be minimum that height.

Sometimes the dysphoria is mixed with body-dismorphism kind of dysphoria and not just the gender one. Give it thought, you should be happy at your height :P  Concern yourself with figure, shape.. but not your height
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Naturally Blonde

Quote from: Myself on February 11, 2010, 10:17:17 AM
I have a lot of female friends at 5'7 and a few others who'd like to get there. At 5'4.5 or so I feel I'd love a couple more inches. I don't mind my height, I'd like a bit taller but if you are at 5'7 and want to be shorter because it's more feminine that's exaggerating, really.
There are a lot of females at your height, PLENTY of them. It counts as a very good height, many girls want to be minimum that height.

Sometimes the dysphoria is mixed with body-dismorphism kind of dysphoria and not just the gender one. Give it thought, you should be happy at your height :P  Concern yourself with figure, shape.. but not your height

I'm not sure where you are located? but in America and Germany women are slightly taller than they are in the U.K.

The body dismorphia tag has been thrown at me before by NHS GIC psychiatrists who seem to think anyone who wants to look female or have various other female enhancing proceedure's including FFS suffer from body dismorphia? ::)

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Myself

I have friend at 5'9, no one doubts they look perfectly female, and they are, non-GID. They look great and people know this.
The thing is sometimes people aspire for the "classic female model", that's not true, saying the average height is 5'5 doesn't mean that 5'7 isn't feminine. Models requirement is 5'9.

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/303/15px4.jpg
She is 5'8.5. She is taller than you! she is rated as one of the most beautiful women in the world

I'd happily be 5'7 tall. Don't let the dysphoria take over you on the things which aren't really there.

I'd support FFS and even body contouring but saying you want to get shorter at 5'7 is nonsense you should realize that it's you hurting yourself if you are ever bothered with it.

I had FFS (Chin and Nose surgery) almost two months ago (I put photos in the FFS page), I told my psychologist that in the support group people told me "don't do it! be yourself, it's all attitude bla bla bla, accept things" and that I went and did it because I felt it is important.
Her reaction was "I am glad you did it. It went really well! Now in psychology we actually encourage people to change what they can by surgery if they feel the need for it. Previously people taught to accept things as they are and that there is no need. Now we say that as long as there is truth to it and the reasons are right, you should go for it"

And in your case I'd say go for any body improvement you want but say thank you that you are 5'7, it'\s a great height, I am jealous of your height.
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Naturally Blonde

Quote from: Myself

I'd happily be 5'7 tall. Don't let the dysphoria take over you on the things which aren't really there.

I'd support FFS and even body contouring but saying you want to get shorter at 5'7 is nonsense you should realize that it's you hurting yourself if you are ever bothered with it.

I think you misunderstood my post! I didn't bring up the thread about shrinking? and all I said was 'that I would have liked it if I was a little shorter' but I didn't say I was bothered about it...  ::)

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lilacwoman

have a look at http://www.pfc.org.uk/node/968  to read about dramatic shrinkages...then have a look at your lesbian friends and see how 'chunky' they have gone as the oppsite effect happens due to BRSS.
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The None Blonde

Quote from: Naturally Blonde on February 11, 2010, 10:03:56 AM
I still think I'm a bit tall for a female at 5' 7".....now 5' 5" would be absolutely perfect!
5'7 is actually more average hight for females today.... 5'6-7 is about the US/UK average :P 5'5 is pushing short either way. 5'10 is average tall, above, is 'a bit tall'

Why want to be short? it sucks >>

I lost an inch from crushed vertibrae, im only 5'9 now, but its a phycological thing I think, I prefered being taller >>

Plus its far more attractive imo.



Lilacwoman: um, huh? The story listed there seems a tiny bit fantastical, but has grounds in truth along the lines we've discussed, but I cannot for the life of me work out how someone being lesbian would make them 'chunkier'? I know two lesbian girls, a couple, both are quite skinny and curvey... Petite even, Having searched this 'BRSS' you speak of im at a loss to comprehend your comment, or any logic behind it.
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Naturally Blonde

Quote from: The None Blonde on February 15, 2010, 05:27:20 AM
5'7 is actually more average hight for females today.... 5'6-7 is about the US/UK average :P 5'5 is pushing short either way. 5'10 is average tall, above, is 'a bit tall'

Why want to be short? it sucks >>

I lost an inch from crushed vertibrae, im only 5'9 now, but its a phycological thing I think, I prefered being taller >>

Plus its far more attractive imo.



Lilacwoman: um, huh? The story listed there seems a tiny bit fantastical, but has grounds in truth along the lines we've discussed, but I cannot for the life of me work out how someone being lesbian would make them 'chunkier'? I know two lesbian girls, a couple, both are quite skinny and curvey... Petite even, Having searched this 'BRSS' you speak of im at a loss to comprehend your comment, or any logic behind it.

A lot of women around here are quite short but then again they are not of British origin!

I agree with you None Blonde about lesbian couples! some are so ultra feminine and unlike the stereo typical view some people have of what lesbians should look like!

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Stella Blue

I am only 5'3 to begin with I don't think I will need any shrinking  :laugh:
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Naturally Blonde

Quote from: Stella Blue on February 15, 2010, 06:11:59 AM
I am only 5'3 to begin with I don't think I will need any shrinking  :laugh:

That is quite short for a M to F...
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lilacwoman

Quote from: ... Petite even, Having searched this 'BRSS' you speak of im at a loss to comprehend your comment, or any logic behind it.
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Shrinkage seems fairly typical of MtFs and the BRSS effect will make lesbians chunkier but of course natal females are slimmer than males anyways so a lot of lesbians won't show obvious signs of BRSS.  But as I'm LGBT head of my department and get to go to LGBT conferences thet chinkiness of lesbians is indisputable.  And as I've been in contact with various MtF over maybe 10 years they almost all agree that they have shrunk.
Just today I was at hospital to see endocrinologist for my 6 monthly and we got to discussing my hormone regime and he said quite categorically that too much estrogen gets convereted into testosterone in me and the same thing happens with women on HRT which is why the doctors are wary of prescribing and now do it in msaller doses than when it first seemed a fad - women started having DVT, strokes, heart problems and breast problems so the dosages were reduced.
Logically neither males nor female should be taking the opposite sex's hormones except as naturally pass during sex.
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gween

after seeing this i had to check my hight i am 39 and when i was in the marines i was 71inch i just checked and im 70inch and i have been on hormones for 2 years
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Keroppi

Quote from: Naturally Blonde on February 15, 2010, 11:13:35 AM
That is quite short for a M to F...
Hey, I'm only 5'3.5. Perfect I say. :angel:
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Vision

I lost an inch and am now 5'11", which is absolutely perfect for me as well.

In fact, three of my classmates at Uni, gg's, are my height or taller.  My niece is 6'1", so I get along just fine at family reunions.
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vlmitchell

I definitely want to be in your family. At 6'0" I stand out like a sore thumb no matter where I go... though that may also be the red-hair... whatever!

Yay for tall people!

For the facts of the matter: Yes, the connective tissues all over have a role in our height and out relative strength at various parts of our lives affects the distance between the bones. As you get older, the muscle tisses soften and weaken leading to a compression of the space between vertebrae, at the knees, feet, pelvic/hip complex and others. With HRT, we're losing ~30-35% of our muscle mass in some places. It's relatively logical that we'd see some shrinkage. We can both shrink and get taller based on nothing more than daily routine changes.
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Kaori

I was leery of clicking this topic for fear of what I might find, but this is a very interesting thread!

Curiosity still gets the better of me...

Hmm, I've only been on HRT for 6 months.  Haven't measured in a couple years, but I was 5'8 for several years without a change, so I stopped measuring.

I'll be breaking out the tape measure regularly now  ;D
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Naturally Blonde

Quote from: Kaori on February 16, 2010, 01:48:50 AM
I was leery of clicking this topic for fear of what I might find, but this is a very interesting thread!

Curiosity still gets the better of me...

Hmm, I've only been on HRT for 6 months.  Haven't measured in a couple years, but I was 5'8 for several years without a change, so I stopped measuring.

I'll be breaking out the tape measure regularly now  ;D

You will probably find you are the same height. It's always best to get someone else to do the measuring to get a more acurate measurement.
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