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Greetings from a maybe ftm wannabe? aheh...

Started by Byren, February 17, 2010, 05:24:43 AM

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Byren

Hi.

My name is Kes. Well...not really, but that's what I'll go by for now. I don't know if I'm in the right place, but I figured it's worth a try. Maybe ya'll could point me in the right direction if I'm not? Heh.

Anyway, onto the basics. I'm a 26 year old retail worker, bookaholic, expert geek, wanna-be writer, and...utterly miserable, to be blunt. I've been stuck in a dark little hole for years now, struggling to figure out why I was there, why I couldn't get out, and just what the h-e-double –L my problem was. I can look back and see where my life began to nose-dive, where I started to get so depressed that school grades, friendship, hobbies, and dreams suffered...it's just been finding the cause and the cure that's been the problem.

   I've always known that there was something not...right....about me. When I was little, I never liked to play 'house' or 'dolls' or whatever (I had barbies...but they were ritually fed to my plastic dinosaurs, hehe!). When my friends wanted to play-act, I always refused to be the 'mom' or whatever in their game. I wanted to be the dad, or the pet, or something like that. (they never argued, as for some reason unfathomable to me, the 'mom' was always the coveted position in the 'family game'). Dresses, purses, fancy shoes...I never went for any of that either. They always made me feel like I was utterly conspicuous and ridiculous looking, and I hated them. Still do, and won't wear a dress or carry a purse on pain of death. When I was in elementary school and onto high school, I suffered from a bit of an ego trip. I though my different-ness from everyone else was because I was better than them...that I was smarter, and just 'above' all of the girly, gender related crap that my peers were into. I couldn't understand why they were playing with makeup and giggling over the boys in Seventeen magazine, while they couldn't understand why I was perfectly happy with a Stephen King novel and a sketchbook. I remember I avoided wearing a bra as long as I could, and refused to wear form-fitting t-shirts for years. I still don't wear a regular bra...just sports bras, because they aren't nearly as feminine to me...more like a short tank top, really. (At least, that's how my twisted mind explains it away!).
   Making friends has always been an issue for me too...partially because I've spent so much of my life a loner, and also because I don't feel comfortable with myself. My self-esteem is zilch. I have trouble talking to girls because I get uncomfortable when they start talking about 'girl' things, and I have trouble talking with guys because I'm always paranoid that they're 'interested.'  Grr!
   My life has gotten to a point recently where something has to change. I have been unable to accomplish anything, or get anywhere in my life because of the....hole...of misery I've been stuck in, and I've realized that I have to fix myself to fix my life.
   Ironically, it was a comment made in World of Warcraft that got me thinking about the transgender community. (I told you I'm a geek.) A fellow gamer I'd talked to but never played with saw my character, a male elf, for the first time, and made the comment "You play a MALE elf? Why male?" My response was simply that "Well...the boys are more fun."  But that comment got me thinking. All the characters I play in Warcraft, and have ever played in any game of any kind, have always been male. The main characters in the stories I write are always male. Every idol or hero I've ever had has been male. The people I would most want to be are male. My mother frequently chides me for wearing men's pants and boots, because I can never find anything in the women's department.

Something clicked, and I started to really think about all of that. I realized that though I'd referred to myself as female when necessary, I'd never identified as a girl, lady, or woman. It irks me when people try to treat me like a girl (opening doors, lifting heavy things, asking me if I read Nicholas Sparks...gah! I've always wanted to be 'just one of the guys.'  I realized, too, that my aspirations for the future are decidedly male in my head. I want to be a film director and actor (no, no Hollywood dreams! Just little gigs) but I can't imagine myself playing a female role (ok, I admit, playing someone like Trinity in The Matrix would be pretty freaking cool!). And for film directing...most of the big timers are male! I was somewhat disturbed to realize recently that even when I'm dreaming, I'm always a guy....But, I'm not attracted to girls at all. I find men attractive (very rarely though, to be honest), and that adds to my confusion.
   Despite all the above, I don't really know what that means for me. Does it mean I am transgendered and gay? Or simply not mentally a girl? I don't know. As soon as I manage to track down a mental health professional with experience in gender issues, I'm going to see if therapy will help me figure it out.

Thank you to anyone who read this. I hope you'll forgive the rambling nature of the introduction...this was partially me organizing my thoughts, and partially me trying to figure things out by 'vocalizing' it to someone. So, essentially, thanks for listening. :)
"I am imagination. I can see what the eyes cannot see. I can hear what the ears cannot hear. I can feel what the heart cannot feel."
Peter Nivio Zarlenga
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K8

Welcome to Susan's, Kes.  :icon_flower:

There's a lot of good information and good people here.  Each of our stories is unique but we have a lot in common.  Settle in, pull up a keyboard, and explore.

Be sure to look under the Announcements heading.  There you will find the rules we live by in this little world of ours: "Site Terms of Service and Rules to Live By", "Standard Terms and Definitions", and "Post Ranks".  Look through the other stuff there, too.

I think you're probably in the right place.  There will probably be some other guys along soon to welcome you.

Quote from: Kes_Wolf on February 17, 2010, 05:24:43 AM
I realized that though I'd referred to myself as female when necessary, I'd never identified as a girl, lady, or woman.

I never said I was a man or a guy.  I knew I was male and would refer to myself that way, but a man?  Are you kidding?

Happy exploring, Kes. :icon_wave:

- Kate
Life is a pilgrimage.
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Janet_Girl

Hi Kes, :icon_wave:

Welcome to our little family. Over 4200 strong. That would be one heck of a family reunion.

Feel free to post your successes/failures, Hopes/dreams.  Ask questions and seek answers. Give and receive advice.

But remember we are family here, your family now. And it is always nice to have another brother. :icon_hug:

And be sure to check out these links ( MUST READS )

I lived the 'male' position through out my life, aways for someone else.  Now I am living for me.  You will get there.

Hugs and Love,
Janet
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Sarah B

Welcome Kes_Wolf

Thank you for sharing your story and I hope you find your answers to your questions among the community members that are here.

Take care

Kind Regards
Sarah B
Be who you want to be.
Sarah's Story
Feb 1989 Living my life as Sarah.
Feb 1989 Legally changed my name.
Mar 1989 Started hormones.
May 1990 Three surgery letters.
Feb 1991 Surgery.
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no_id

Hey Kes,

Welcome to the gang. Pretty sure Susan's is the right place to help you figure things out, that is; as long as you don't let it (or your interpretation) place you in one box or the other. I mean, you've been a bit of a loner, you're write, read, and you play MMORPGS.. ;) Ahhh- I'm sure you catch my drift. Simple said; don't make assumption make you jump to a conclusion.
That said, I think seeking out a gender therapist is definitely one of the steps you want to take (outside neutral force) because you definitely have some gender buzzing going on there (not fitting the 'woman' etiquette, not catching the drift on binary).

Susans will be the place where you can learn how to experiment, how to confront yourself, and how in the end; know those bits of you a bit better. It might get you somehwere, nowhere, but there's no doubt; it will broaden your horizen.

No clue why I decided on such a long reply; perhaps because I digged your intro, the alcohol in bloodsteam, or a combination of.  8)
Tara: The one time in my life I thought I was happy, I was a f**kin zombie.

True Blood S3E2
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Byren

Many thanks for the greetings! I was so nervous about posting that I was twitchy all day at work, desperate to get online and see if anyone had replied.
QuoteI never said I was a man or a guy.  I knew I was male and would refer to myself that way, but a man?  Are you kidding?
Lol, it's comforting to know I'm not the only one who has thought in those terms. I always wondered if I was just being silly, but it's amazing what simple syntax can do.

QuotePretty sure Susan's is the right place to help you figure things out, that is; as long as you don't let it (or your interpretation) place you in one box or the other. I mean, you've been a bit of a loner, you're write, read, and you play MMORPGS.. ;) Ahhh- I'm sure you catch my drift. Simple said; don't make assumption make you jump to a conclusion.

No worries, mate. I'm not searching for a box or a label. Thoughts about being transgendered have been circling my hindbrain for well over a decade. Fear kept me from exploring it too deeply...fear of being considered 'broken' or that it would mean there was something 'wrong' with me. I'm not an RP-er or anything. The MMORPG is a very recent hobby, and the comment by my fellow player served as sort of a...wake up call? Kick in the pants? Heh.  At any rate, thanks for being honest with me. I'm going to do my best, hopefully with this site's help, to finally be honest with myself.  ;D
"I am imagination. I can see what the eyes cannot see. I can hear what the ears cannot hear. I can feel what the heart cannot feel."
Peter Nivio Zarlenga
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PanoramaIsland

Kes, welcome to Susan's! I'm a recent arrival myself, and have felt pretty at-home here. :3

Listening to each other is what we're here for!

Gender is a complex, ambiguous thing, and it can be really fun to explore. Hopefully, we'll be able to help.
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Byren

Gender a complex thing? Hoo-boy, you said it!

And thanks for the welcome! I'm liking it here all ready. It's been so fantastic being able to read everyone's posts and see that no, I'm not crazy. (well..completely anyway  ;) )

I love the chaos avatar, btw. I used to wear a pendant with that symbol on it all the time.
"I am imagination. I can see what the eyes cannot see. I can hear what the ears cannot hear. I can feel what the heart cannot feel."
Peter Nivio Zarlenga
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PanoramaIsland

Honey, everybody's crazy. Thing is, only some of us realize it.  ;D

Just be open to your gender feelings evolving, becoming more complex and varied, being fluid. I know a lot of trans people try really hard to shove themselves into the gender box opposite of the one they were previously forced into, but I never liked that tack. I mean, if you're more or less normative to one or the other gender, great, but don't shove it down your own throat. :) Let it be an adventure!
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miniangel

Welcome, Kes. This is a great place to start your exploration, to meet people who will understand.

I back what no_id says - don't grab the first label that seems to fit. Instead, try a few ideas on.  Labels are just a convenient shorthand. Whatever conclusions you reach, whichever path you follow, Susan's is an excellent beginning and the people here are tremendously supportive and friendly.
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Artificial Man

Quote from: Kes_Wolf on February 17, 2010, 05:24:43 AM
Hi.
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It irks me when people try to treat me like a girl (opening doors...

Hiya Kes (we are both new heare, so I thought I'd greet you too :)

I guess there is one thing about malehood that I do appreciate and that is the concept of being a "gentleman". There is a flaw in the concept however: some actions, like opening a door for someone only seems to come into account if the person is a female.

But I try to be different: I open doors to everyone regardless of their sex. I think of it as being considerate and don't want to use the term "gentleman-like" (it makes me feel like a man when I use the term "gentleman"). So, there might be some others like me out there who open doors to you just because they think it to be polite, not primarily because you are a female. So, next time someone opens a door for you, I hope you'll keep it in your mind.

But anyway, nothing else to say. I am very much new here also, so I wish us both some good adventures here :)
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kyril

Hello! I'm also a newbie and an FTM - and a WoW player, who plays male characters. Elves, in fact. Nice to meet you.

Oh, and your barbies - feeding them to dinosaurs was a fantastic idea. I only got one Barbie as a present when I was a kid, and within 24 hours I'd ripped its limbs off and set it on fire (no, I'm not a pyro, I just happened to be sent to burn the trash that day, and I had a dismembered barbie in my pocket...what would you do?) But I probably missed many hours of potential fun with it as dinosaur food.


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Byren

Quote from: kyril on February 18, 2010, 09:27:40 AM
Hello! I'm also a newbie and an FTM - and a WoW player, who plays male characters. Elves, in fact. Nice to meet you.

Nice to meet you too! The Elves (Blood Elves, in particular) Are my favorite...probably because they look the most like I want to look.  :laugh: We should see if we're on the same realm or not sometime!
Quote from: Artificial Man on February 18, 2010, 05:23:36 AM
So, there might be some others like me out there who open doors to you just because they think it to be polite, not primarily because you are a female. So, next time someone opens a door for you, I hope you'll keep it in your mind.
Hi! Nice to meet you!  I understand what you're saying about the doors, and I never hold it against anyone. To me, there's a difference between when someone does it to be polite, and does it because you're female. I'm never mad at them, but rather at myself for being seen as female. You see, I'm used to opening doors for people instead! I've always been a fan of the chivalrous and gentlemanly. (I bow and pull chairs out for people regularly, lol).


In other news, just thought I'd shout it out there that I finally...ah...attempted to make an appointment with a psychiatrist. I was at last able to contact my insurance company to get the OK (only to find out that, despite what their website says, it wasn't necessary to do so. grr). However, I couldn't get ahold of anyone in the psychiatrist's office.  :'( I left my number though, so hopefully they'll get back to be ASAP!
"I am imagination. I can see what the eyes cannot see. I can hear what the ears cannot hear. I can feel what the heart cannot feel."
Peter Nivio Zarlenga
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PanoramaIsland

Oh, I just saw your comment about the chaostar! Yes, I love the chaostar; it's a favorite symbol of mine. I used to know a guy with chaostars tattooed on both his hands. :D
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Byren

It's one of my favorites too! I always thought it would be neat to get it tattooed at the top of my sternum (forget what that spot's called...just bellow the hollow of your throat ???)
"I am imagination. I can see what the eyes cannot see. I can hear what the ears cannot hear. I can feel what the heart cannot feel."
Peter Nivio Zarlenga
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PanoramaIsland

You got me all inspired, and I up and decided to make myself a chaostar patch for my jacket! White on black, of course... :D

That would be an excellent place to get a chaostar tat, especially if it was well-done and perhaps supplemented with some nice gothic filligree. Perhaps a Chaostar in a rose window? Oooh, wouldn't that be deliciously ironic.  >:-)
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