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Chrissty

Quote from: Randi on October 19, 2010, 07:29:19 PM
Chrissty-what would I do without you as my friend! Thank you so much for your suggestions and posts.
Randi

Hi hun.... ::)

:icon_hug:

Chrissty
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Randi

Well, we still have times when we have a difficult conversation but everyone does so it's not really a big thing nowadays. We seem to have settled into a more or less 'normal' routine of small talk while avoiding the topics that get us into rough waters. That's not to say the subject of gender differences doesn't come up-we just don't dwell on it. We have also been watching quite a few 'chick flicks' on the television and have grown somewhat closer than we were a couple of months previously. It ain't perfect but it sure beats bickering and arguing all the time!
We might make a go of it after all.
Randi
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Chrissty

Quote from: Randi on November 02, 2010, 06:11:50 PM
We might make a go of it after all.
Randi

I'm glad to hear things have settled down for now. ;)

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that you can keep things in balance in the long term...  :icon_bunch:

:icon_hug:

Chrissty
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Lacey Lynne

@ Randi, Chrissty & Jesse:

Just wanted to say that I think all 3 of you are great people.  Because I'm a great deal older than all of you, I look and learn from your posts.  Otherwise, I stay out of the fray, because I'm from another generation ... another time.  For what it's worth, however, I find myself in much the same situation inasmuch as my wife and I are now economic roommates, sleeping in separate rooms but great friends nonetheless. 

In 2 weeks, I'm a whole year on HRT, and the changes have been more significant than I ever expected them to be.  My point is that I hate having harpooned our marriage with my transsexuality, so I''m reluctant to proceed on to ultimate GRS/SRS.  Honestly, I could never have that surgery and still be quite happy with my transition.  That's just me.  Some folks must go the distance to the surgery.

Many of us older folks admire you younger folks very much.  I know I do.  Thanks for this great thread and your awesome posts.  Everybody else on this thread is cool too.  Enjoyed it much.  Thanks!
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Randi

Hi Lacey, Thanks so much for the kind words-it can be difficult trying to keep things together and sailing on an even keel. But we manage and haven't bitten each others heads off in a while now. At least now my wife knows what bothers me and seems determined to stay together so I am content to try as well. I still have days that I struggle but she knows the signs and gives me space and conversely I do the same for her.
FYI-I will turn 55 years of age this next June. I wish I felt young but most days the pain from old injuries and arthritis really gets me down. But I stay active inspite of it and enjoy my life-I keep telling myself it could always be worse! So I am thankful for every day and try to keep a positive attitude towards life in general-it truly is a precious gift. I think still playing my guitars and singing help in that I have interaction with folks younger than me and I can hang in there with them.
I wonder at times where all this GID will lead me. I probably won't ever be able to afford SRS and regular therapy takes a toll on the pocketbook as well. But like I said earlier I am content with where I am now. I havent heard from Jesse in a while and hope she is doing well in spite of all the crap she went thru a few weeks back. Chrissty is a dear! I only wish I were able to see some of ya'll sometime. I feel that here at Susan's I have friends who really do care what happens to me - something I had thought I would never have again. Yes, I think you are pretty cool too!

Randi  8)
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Lacey Lynne

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Quote from: Randi on December 01, 2010, 02:35:18 PM
Hi Lacey, Thanks so much for the kind words.

FYI-I will turn 55 years of age this next June. I wish I felt young but most days the pain from old injuries and arthritis really gets me down. But I stay active inspite of it and enjoy my life-I keep telling myself it could always be worse! So I am thankful for every day and try to keep a positive attitude towards life in general-it truly is a precious gift.

I think still playing my guitars and singing help in that I have interaction with folks younger than me and I can hang in there with them.

I wonder at times where all this GID will lead me. I probably won't ever be able to afford SRS and regular therapy takes a toll on the pocketbook as well. But like I said earlier I am content with where I am now. I havent heard from Jesse in a while and hope she is doing well in spite of all the crap she went thru a few weeks back. Chrissty is a dear! I only wish I were able to see some of ya'll sometime. I feel that here at Susan's I have friends who really do care what happens to me - something I had thought I would never have again. Yes, I think you are pretty cool too!

Randi  8)

Well, fellow old-timer, you are GOING to turn 55, but I already have ... back in October.  Welcome to the club, girl.  Hey, we have a lot in common.  Likewise, I've often thought an in-person get-together with some folks from Susan's Place would be a great time. 

The thing is, you are absolutely right:  You really DO have friends.  We really DO care about you and what happens to you.  Friendship is what this world needs.  May we talk about that a little?

From this old-timer's perspective, our world is a sad sight, indeed.  People generally are valued as economic units.  Can you help somebody make money?  If so, you are valued.  If not, you are not.  It's just that simple.  An alien landing on this planet would think that the purpose of life to humans is to make money.

Money is a heuristic concept, a mental agreement, a mere concept.  Evermore, money is nothing more than pulses in an electronic circuit.  Money is the quantitization of human reward, human incentive, human trade.  Money is greed made manifest.

For brevity's sake and everybody's sanity, I shall cease and desist from my little ptolemic diatribe and impassioned inveil for now.  The point I'm making is:  IMHO, Planet Earth has cancer, allegorically-speaking, of course.  That cancer is the human economic system that quite literally is devouring our planet.  The human greed machine is committing "planeticide."

We older people have increasingly-exponential lowering value to our "society" as we age, because we are deemed irrelevent and unnecessary to it's money-making madness.  There IS a cure for this "cancer" which infests our planet.  The cure is:   S-H-A-R-I-N-G.  It is my sincere hope that amongst the young "Leading Lights" will arise to dismantle this money-making madness which is destroying everybody and everything and will insist that we, as a race, learn to share, care and love.  Once the human race can learn to do that, the hell that is this world can be magnificently transmogrified into heaven ... a beautiful place. 

Enough of this old-timer's invective and inveigh.

Don't be a stranger on here, okay girl?  Glad you're here.  We like you lots!  Rock on, sis!

;)   Lacey
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Shana A

I'll be 55 next year, and have been non-op for many years. Because of various circumstances, including making a meager living, full transition isn't likely at this time.

Z
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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Randi

Hi Zythyra, It's too bad so many of us must struggle with the lack of funds to help us deal with our struggles. Yet from my struggles I learn humility and to persevere- in some ways I consider myself better off for enduring these same struggles.

Lacey- I must agree that greed has made our world a troublesome environment but I am afraid that things will not get better before they get much worse. But we can make a difference even if in small ways and in localized areas. I myself will give aid to all who need it if I can and will provide support and friendship to those who do not have it-these small things I can do. So in my own way I am making things better not only for myself but for others around me.

Randi
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Lacey Lynne

Quote from: Zythyra on December 02, 2010, 02:19:58 PM
I'll be 55 next year, and have been non-op for many years. Because of various circumstances, including making a meager living, full transition isn't likely at this time.

Z

@ Zythyra:

You and me both, girl.  Exact same circumstances here ... exactly the same.  My thing is existential, also.  I could never bring myself to "chase after a buck."  THAT'S my biggest problem in life ... always has been since I started working as a teenager in 1969.  Even at age 15, I thought the entire basis upon which "The Economy" is based is absolutely insane:  Take, make, throw away (Kudos to David Icke whose phrase this is.).  Sell a product or service and pop everybody and anybody for all the money you can get out of them ... Mach 4 with your hair on fire ... achieve, achieve, achieve ... money, money, money ... get old, get sick, get dead.  Some life. 

Okay, so I'm a whacko.  Sorry, but I just never could put my priority on mongering after money.  If that makes me a loser, well then, yeah, I guess it does.   When I consider The System that adjudges me as a loser, I don't feel guilty at all.  Just rambling.  Sorry.  Yes, it WOULD be great to have the funds to transition and live rightly and well.  Got nobody to blame but myself for not having the cash, but I just couldn't bring myself to chase after it.  The very idea of doing so revolts me. 

@ Randi:

Randi, understood, girl, understood.  I hear you ... loud and clear.  Best wishes to you.  Hope your health improves or maintains and that you can enjoy your life as much as possible. 
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Shana A

Quote from: Lacey Lynne on December 02, 2010, 11:12:35 PM
@ Zythyra:

You and me both, girl.  Exact same circumstances here ... exactly the same.  My thing is existential, also.  I could never bring myself to "chase after a buck."

Lacey,

I've never cared about chasing the buck either. I don't need to buy the newest whatever material thing that is pushed down our collective consumer throat by advertisers. My lifelong career is as a musician, what's important to me is creating music and continuing to learn. Among my other passions are writing and trans activism, there certainly isn't any money in those. What can I do to make this world slightly better while I'm here? That's my journey.

Z
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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Lacey Lynne

Quote from: Zythyra on December 03, 2010, 09:09:29 AM
Lacey,

I've never cared about chasing the buck either. I don't need to buy the newest whatever material thing that is pushed down our collective consumer throat by advertisers. My lifelong career is as a musician, what's important to me is creating music and continuing to learn. Among my other passions are writing and trans activism, there certainly isn't any money in those. What can I do to make this world slightly better while I'm here? That's my journey.

Z

@ Zythrya:

Spot-on, girl!  Wow, like, we think SOOO alike.  That is WONDERFUL that you are a musician.  To be a musician is my fondest wish.  Unfortunately, I just don't have the talent for it ... wish I did.  Did the next best thing when I was young ... was a DJ on the radio for about 20 years ... small-time stations, so I barely survived, but I was bringing joy and happiness to people doing something I loved.  I "threw away great career options" to do this. 

You said, "... making the world slightly better while I'm here.  That's my journey."

Yes!  Agree one-hundred percent.  The thing is that our would could, COULD, be just wonderful ... save for the law-of-the-jungle, winner-take-all, up-yours-gimme-mine economic system that has developed the world over.  That system is absolutely insane and ultimately evil. 

Mother Theresa, Mathatma Ghandi, Florence Nightengale, John Lennon, Jesus Christ, Gautama Buddha, Dr. Martin Luther King, etc.   ...   people like that ... are folks I can really admire.  Love, sharing, kindness ... ARE possible ... if only we CHOOSE to exercise them.  Somebody needs to get this across to our "leaders."  We all know that ain't gonna happen.  Sigh, ... what a world.

Bless you, Z!    ;)   Lacey
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Chrissty

Hi Randi, Lacey, Z...

Just to let you all know I'm still around... ::)

I felt that I needed a break from Susan's, and was finding that I was repeating myself on a lot of posts, and that a lot of the friends I was corresponding with had moved on.... There are only so many ways you can say "no change" before it becomes boring... and to be honest even I was starting to think I had developed a fantasy online life that didn't exist..  ::)

So, I'm getting out and about a bit more these days, and I've been using the time to make friends in real life in the UK TG community.

Slowly, I'm working to explore the reality of who I am, and trying to piece together what I need to do now, and in the future... this is still going to take some time, and I'm in no rush.... so I'm still keeping the offer of HRT open, without progressing to script..

Amazingly, I continue to pass in the high street these days and my confidence for going out socially has increased significantly...so much so, I have agreed to DJ for the well known "Translondon" Support Group Christmas Party this year... my first ever public-female gig... ;)

Still I'm pleased you all seem well, particulary you Randi, as I know what a struggle this year has been for you..  :icon_bunch:

Hugz to all  :icon_hug:

xxChrissty
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Lacey Lynne

Quote from: Chrissty on December 14, 2010, 03:20:15 PM
Hi Randi, Lacey, Z...

Just to let you all know I'm still around... ::)

I felt that I needed a break from Susan's, and was finding that I was repeating myself on a lot of posts, and that a lot of the friends I was corresponding with had moved on.... There are only so many ways you can say "no change" before it becomes boring... and to be honest even I was starting to think I had developed a fantasy online life that didn't exist..  ::)

So, I'm getting out and about a bit more these days, and I've been using the time to make friends in real life in the UK TG community.

Slowly, I'm working to explore the reality of who I am, and trying to piece together what I need to do now, and in the future... this is still going to take some time, and I'm in no rush.... so I'm still keeping the offer of HRT open, without progressing to script..

Amazingly, I continue to pass in the high street these days and my confidence for going out socially has increased significantly...so much so, I have agreed to DJ for the well known "Translondon" Support Group Christmas Party this year... my first ever public-female gig... ;)

Still I'm pleased you all seem well, particulary you Randi, as I know what a struggle this year has been for you..  :icon_bunch:

Hugz to all  :icon_hug:

xxChrissty

@ Chrissty:

Girl, want to know something about yourself that you may find interesting? 

When I very first started lurking and then posting on Susan's Place, YOUR posts just happenstancially were the first ones I encountered that REALLY connected with me ... on a deep level.  Also, your pics revealed to me what was possible.  Yes, YOUR pics and posts really clicked with me in a big way ... and ultimately encouraged me not only to join this community but to go see a gender counselor and get started on my own transition journey.

This very day ... is my one-year anniversary of starting HRT.  This very day ... my new job offer is confirmed.  This very day ... God, The Goddess, The Force (... like, whatever! ...) granted my for-now real-world family and me a major miracle by way of friends right here on Susan's Place most unexpectedly (... and un-asked-for ...) most generously helping us when it is needed most but, way more importantly, also offering real concern and true affection (... MUCH, MUCH, MUCH more important to me ...)!  I cried more intensely than I ever have in my entire life with joy, gratitude and love upon receiving this news ... tears of JOY and of THAKNFULNESS.

This very day ... YOU write THIS post!

These coincidences are beyond amazing.  They're downright preternatural!  So, what am I really saying here?

Chrissty, I'm saying THANK YOU!  Perhaps without even knowing that you've done so, you have SO inspired me and SO encouraged me.  I am forever grateful to you.  Yeah, I know:  I sound all stupid and mushy.  True, but what a glorious day today has been, and discovering this post of yours now is this day's capstone.

Girl, I wish you every success and all happiness in your life.

It is wise to get on with your life in the real world.  I'll be doing that soon too.  Gotta keep some big promises I've just made to some wonderful people, and it will take much time and focused dedication in order for me to keep these promises, so I'll not be posting that much either for a while.  If you ever want to, PM me anytime.  If not, that's cool too.  Your choice. 

Merry Christmas & Happy New Year!

;)   Lacey Lynne

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Chrissty

Hi Lacey,

Quote from: Lacey Lynne on December 14, 2010, 09:20:20 PM
@ Chrissty:

Girl, want to know something about yourself that you may find interesting? 

When I very first started lurking and then posting on Susan's Place, YOUR posts just happenstancially were the first ones I encountered that REALLY connected with me ... on a deep level.  Also, your pics revealed to me what was possible.  Yes, YOUR pics and posts really clicked with me in a big way ... and ultimately encouraged me not only to join this community but to go see a gender counselor and get started on my own transition journey.

This very day ... is my one-year anniversary of starting HRT.  This very day ... my new job offer is confirmed.  This very day ... God, The Goddess, The Force (... like, whatever! ...) granted my for-now real-world family and me a major miracle by way of friends right here on Susan's Place most unexpectedly (... and un-asked-for ...) most generously helping us when it is needed most but, way more importantly, also offering real concern and true affection (... MUCH, MUCH, MUCH more important to me ...)!  I cried more intensely than I ever have in my entire life with joy, gratitude and love upon receiving this news ... tears of JOY and of THAKNFULNESS.

This very day ... YOU write THIS post!

These coincidences are beyond amazing.  They're downright preternatural!  So, what am I really saying here?

Chrissty, I'm saying THANK YOU!  Perhaps without even knowing that you've done so, you have SO inspired me and SO encouraged me.  I am forever grateful to you.  Yeah, I know:  I sound all stupid and mushy.  True, but what a glorious day today has been, and discovering this post of yours now is this day's capstone.

Girl, I wish you every success and all happiness in your life.

It is wise to get on with your life in the real world.  I'll be doing that soon too.  Gotta keep some big promises I've just made to some wonderful people, and it will take much time and focused dedication in order for me to keep these promises, so I'll not be posting that much either for a while.  If you ever want to, PM me anytime.  If not, that's cool too.  Your choice. 

Merry Christmas & Happy New Year!

;)   Lacey Lynne

Oh dear... it seems I have a lot to live up to then....  ::)

... it sometimes seems that I'm the only one who is still questioning my life ... I mean, a lot of people here have said similar things to your kind words above, and it seems that people I now meet who know I'm trans IRL keep forgetting that I haven't started formal transition other than counselling..

Lacey, if my ramblings here have helped in some small way, then you are more than welcome... and I wish you many more "Happy Anniversaries" for the coming years.  ;)

My Very Best Wishes and Love to You for Christmas and The New Year!

Hugz :icon_hug:

Chrissty
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Randi

Chrissty,

No you are not the only one who questions themselves-I do it every day. If I go ahead and transition my family suffers. If I choose not to I suffer-but not beyond my ability to tolerate it. While I must admit that my life is not what I want it to be, it could always be worse and I have to judge accurately whether I want to be responsible for the suffering of others whom I have sworn to protect. I have reached a point of being more androgenic than I was before and for now to a degree I am satisfied with it and my family is ok with it too-so it works. I am glad to hear things are going well for you. May you and yours have a very merry Christmas and New Year!

Lacey-she is a dear isn't she!

Randi
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Shana A

Quote from: Chrissty on December 15, 2010, 06:42:14 PM
... it sometimes seems that I'm the only one who is still questioning my life ...

You're not the only one! I'm constantly questioning and re-evaluating. If it becomes necessary to my well being to change paths, I will do it, but for now I continue as I have for some years.

:icon_hug:

Z
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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Chrissty

Hi Randi,

Quote from: Randi on December 16, 2010, 07:04:37 AM
Chrissty,

No you are not the only one who questions themselves-I do it every day. If I go ahead and transition my family suffers. If I choose not to I suffer-but not beyond my ability to tolerate it. While I must admit that my life is not what I want it to be, it could always be worse and I have to judge accurately whether I want to be responsible for the suffering of others whom I have sworn to protect. I have reached a point of being more androgenic than I was before and for now to a degree I am satisfied with it and my family is ok with it too-so it works. I am glad to hear things are going well for you. May you and yours have a very merry Christmas and New Year!

Lacey-she is a dear isn't she!

Randi

...sorry I wasn't sure how often you visit these days, but it's good to hear from you. :icon_bunch:

I agree with Z in that I really don't things ever stay the same as our perspectives and those of others continue to change with time.... So all we can do it stick with "what works" , "while it works", and make the best we can of life... but we always need to be prepared to adapt as new circumstances occur, or as needs change.... So we still seem to have a pretty similar set of life issues to deal with honey.. ;)

Quote from: Zythyra on December 16, 2010, 09:25:03 AM
You're not the only one! I'm constantly questioning and re-evaluating. If it becomes necessary to my well being to change paths, I will do it, but for now I continue as I have for some years.

:icon_hug:

Z

I realy wish I could achieve that much control in my life Z.... I have a long way to go before I feel I can make a concious decion to change.. ::)

...but we still love you just as you are, so no need to change for a while yet  :)

Seasonal Hugz to you both :icon_bunch:

Chrissty
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Randi

For those of you that have been following this thread, I am relatively stable but have days that I just want to-oh hell sometimes I don't know what I want to do. It frustrates me to no end knowing that I might never get to finish my transition. At the present there is no social circle for me to retreat to.

The other day my wife-who has previously avoided confrontations-let me have it just out of the blue. Not a good time for relationship building! I know she too must be frustrated and at times will probably act out her frustrations-but damn. One night she said that she couldn't keep this up knowing I don't want to be a man. Oh just great-another cheerful dialogue. There are times that I think it is senseless to continue this farce of a relationship. Then I think of how it will effect others in the circle.

Needless to say-I am torn and struggling to maintain my composure-VENTING.
Rw
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Simone Louise

My wife woke me in the middle of the night last week, to say it was OK with her whether I identified as a boy or as a girl, because it was me she loved. So I sat down with her yesterday, and we read each posting in this thread together as her introduction to Susan's. Then she showed me the video of an interview, on one of the morning TV shows, of a woman whose husband left her saying he'd discovered he was gay. My wife identified with what the woman said about such things being damaging to a wife's self-image. And she wanted to be re-assured I did not plan to transition.

I am an active 70; she's 50; and we will have been married 23 years next month. I have 3 children and 3 grandchildren from another marriage, and we have one college-student daughter of our own. We have bonds of trust, openness, and shared goals/life outlooks that I've never had with another person. I'd never discussed my gender issues with another person, but did with her before we were married. I have never pretended to be macho, but have always presented as a male--willing to push gender boundaries.

We have worked out a number of lifestyle accommodations to our mutual satisfaction. I do the food shopping, cooking, and cleaning (though she does the bathrooms). We split the laundry and sewing. She is the breadwinner; my part-time job provides a very good healthcare package. When our daughter was younger, and my wife was away on business as many as 200 nights a year, I did a substantial share of the parenting. When we go out, we go in her car, and she drives. At restaurants, she orders and pays for our dinners, etc. My wife smiles when I wear certain of my clothes, for she knows it means I am feeling particularly "girly." These kinds of compromises get very little notice in the outside world, but let me be myself and somewhat sane.

Now, it is not that my dysphoria is greater or less than formerly, but there are opportunities to deal with it that never used to be accessible to me. Susan's is a big one. Gender therapy is another that I have begun to use. And low or intermittent levels of HRT may be in my near future. I think I can continue to present as a boundary-pushing male. I don't think I will need laser hair removal or surgeries: I may already be too old to be considered for SRS, anyway.

The women I knew over the years taught that life is about family, service (especially in the interests of peace and justice), and quiet sacrifice. I think I can follow their lead, and be happy along the way. I feel a common bond with those who have posted on this thread, and do hope we can keep it going as we search for answers in the coming months. It means so much to me, at least. May you and your families, each find peace, fulfillment, health, and happiness along your way.

S
Choose life.
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Joelene9

Simone,
  You have gotten an early Valentine's present! congrats! There will be emotional changes with the HRT and should the therapist agrees on prescribing such, the word 'intermittent' should not be in the regimen! Hormonal fluctuations witn your T will cause prostate problems as with my younger brother is now experiencing. He is 20 years younger than you, yet too young to experience the andropause effects.  I had too much T excretions with mine and the HRT has relieved the visible symptoms I had.
  It doesn't matter with your age anyway if you take HRT or not. The external effects are usually less visible. I go for the emotional side as I am doing now.  Your wife is a real gem, keep her!
  Joelene.
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