trust your government?

[Barbara]

Global warming ,it is always raining here,because of the increased water in the atmosphere.because of the polar ice caps melting.Endless war (the war of ideals)not about territory. Economic collapse looming.The energy crisis (yeah, we are using more oil than we are finding).famine (yeah,global warming will destroy the crop yeilds) .Rising sea levels will put many under water.Europe is going to go into an "ice age" because of the  shutdown of the oceanic "conveyer belt that brings warm water from the equator to the north.When all this comes down on us i will not be trying to match a pair of pumps with my favorite dress.There will be war over water and food

[PanoramaIsland]

...huh?



That being said, no, of course I don't trust "my" government.

[AmySmiles]

Government likes to create panic among people by blowing things out of proportion.  During the ensuing panic they can do things they otherwise could not under the "normal" rules.  See: the Iraq war, bailouts, etc.

Some of those things you list may be just that.  Keep this in mind and don't worry so much.  That's not to say a contingency plan isn't a good idea, but don't take everything you listed as a given.

[Janet_Girl]

There are two quotes I love.

"I love my country, but fear my government".

"Don't steal!  The government hates the competition"

[Cindy]

Sorry all,
The world ended in 2000 due to the bug. We now live only as MicroSoft entities in a giant game set.

Now how to disprove that statement?

Cindy

[MICHELLE192]

There are two quotes I love.

"I love my country, but fear my government".

Janet that quote it reminded me of a song called goodbye america from W.A.S.P. it is close to one in the song.  "I love my country, but scared to death of its goverenment" 


The fact is that they have been crying about global warming and oil shortage for a while and have the technolgy to prevent most of the problems.  I think they are just scaring everyone.  crops can be grown inside greenhouse with central air as long as it rains you got water.  The war over religion has been going on since the crusades it never really stopped.  Man kind has lived through ice ages with the animals we eat and without heaters or electric.  there is other ways to make energy then by burning oil, with solar, wind ,water, and nuclear power.   sea level rising move away from the beaches but if an ice age happens the water will drop not rise.  I would be more worried about yellowstone erupting or a comet hitting the earth then of global warming at least there is something that is being worked on for that problem. 

[rejennyrated]

The biggest problem is none of those things although many of them are indirectly linked to it.

The biggest problem, in my opinion, is the runaway growth of human population.

Until we master space we have here a fixed alocation of resources and at present we are using them up faster than nature can replenish them.

All these schemes for growing stuff in greenhouses and all of the other solutions simply won't work if you don't have alternative energy supplies online and ready for the day when the oil runs out, because for example, how do you run an air cooling plant with no electricity...

Trouble is no one will really start to work on them whilst there is still vast easy money to make from diminishing supplies of oil, and with the demand growing that means massive price hikes, which in turn means famines and war on a possibly species ending thermonuclear basis.

In some ways a global disaster on a previously unseen scale like a rapid and massive rise in sea level, or a pandemic just might do the job and save us from ourselves. But the trouble with relying on nature to do the cull is that she is horribly indiscriminate. So many will die in terrible and undeserved suffering.

All of which could be avoided if, as a species, we took sensible steps to limit the size of our own populations.

In electing for effective sterility maybe us postops are already doing our bit to help

[FairyGirl]

The book "State of Fear" by Michael Crichton, though a work of fiction, is very enlightening on the subject of global warming and the way that governments use fear as a method of controlling the masses in general. Worth reading.

The world is going to end in 2012 anyway, I saw it in a movie. I may not be trying to match pumps to my favorite dress, but I probably will be polishing my nails. There's something very zen about polishing ones nails that seems to put government crises into proper perspective.

[Sarah B]

Hi Cindy

Sorry all,
The world ended in 2000 due to the bug. We now live only as MicroSoft entities in a giant game set.

Now how to disprove that statement?

Cindy

Easily done my girl

The world ended in 2000 due to the bug.  Which means everyone died.  But I am still alive therefore "The world ended in 2000 due to the bug" is FALSE

We now live only as MicroSoft entities in a giant game set, Which means everyone uses MicroSoft.  But I use a Linux Operating System (Fedora), therefore "We now live only as MicroSoft entities in a giant game set" is FALSE

Since both statements are FALSE, then your original statement "The world ended in 2000 due to the bug. We now live only as MicroSoft entities in a giant game set." IS FALSE.

QED

Kind regards as always
Sarah B

[Janet_Girl]

Sorry all,
The world ended in 2000 due to the bug. We now live only as MicroSoft entities in a giant game set.

Now how to disprove that statement?

Cindy

Let's find out.  Computer, end program.

[rejennyrated]

Let's find out.  Computer, end program.

BSOD

Ilegal Operation

Sorry - MSENDPRG.DLL caused a stack fault at Address 08def56678

rx=1078888 F=ffe56128 a2=ff67ef68

Press Enter to reboot!

[Dweia]

BSOD

Ilegal Operation

Sorry - MSENDPRG.DLL caused a stack fault at Address 08def56678

rx=1078888 F=ffe56128 a2=ff67ef68

Press Enter to reboot!

Actually we might need to reboot Earth 'cause we all humans (=virus) needs to be reprogrammed as Earth quardians 

[Hannah]

Welcome to our forums, Mr. Gore, I'm glad you finally decided to come out. Once again you've missed your target audience, when we think about the inconvenient truth, the first thing on our minds is estradiol supplies...not advancing glaciers.

[Laura91]

Government likes to create panic among people by blowing things out of proportion.  During the ensuing panic they can do things they otherwise could not under the "normal" rules.  See: the Iraq war, bailouts, etc.

Bingo!! Give the lady a gold star!!

the government (and the news media) love to do that because it equals ratings and cash and so many people are dumb enough to fall victim to the hysteria. It's a sad, sad world that we live in.

[Dianna]

Bingo!! Give the lady a gold star!!

the government (and the news media) love to do that because it equals ratings and cash and so many people are dumb enough to fall victim to the hysteria. It's a sad, sad world that we live in.

I so agree with the above, I mainly just keep earplugs in and don't listen to the Gov and all their polava.

[Eva Marie]

Of course I do not trust the government. To many backroom deals going on, and too many untruths being told, in spite of election year promises. No regard for the common man.

Reminds me of the who:

"Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss"

On your list you gave, you left off some of the things i am most concerned about - the reckless spending of the government, the refusal to search for oil right here in the USA while foreign companies drill right off our coasts (same estimates put our own oil reserves > saudi arabia). Also, it appears to me that oil futures are poised to surge if the economy recovers - anyone remember what $4 gas did to the economy?

And the rush to offshore manufacturing and jobs - without these kind of jobs, the middle class suffers, while the rich get richer, and the poor get poorer.

[PanoramaIsland]

Wait a minute, when did "don't trust the government" turn into "never mind the fact that the entire scientific community is telling us it's a huge deal, global warming is nothing to be concerned about?"

Global warming isn't about the government pulling people's strings. It would exist, happily chomping away at the ozone layer and warming our planet, regardless of whether the government of the United States or any other country paid any attention to it.

We should be happy that our government pays what little attention it does, but make no mistake: the face of the US government on the issue of climate change is ultimately and overwhelmingly a face of inaction and foot-dragging, paying lip service to the problem but little more. The US is far behind Western European nations and many other countries in curbing resource consumption and pollution output.

I'm not saying we're the one big offender, or anything like that - everyone contributes to this problem, and it's often third-world countries and densely populated developing nations like India that spew out the most pollution per capita. China, Russia, Brazil - all the other big countries have major greenhouse gas problems as well. However, the US has the highest per capita municipal waste output of any country (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/env_mun_was_gen-environment-municipal-waste-generation), the highest per capita carbon dioxide output from fossil fuels of any country, (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/env_pol_car_dio_fro_fos_fue_200_percap-fossil-fuels-2000-per-capita), and we're far and away the largest carbon dioxide emitter in the world (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/env_pol_car_dio_199-environment-pollution-carbon-dioxide-1999).

It's not enough for us to just fiddle and faddle on the issue, or say that China should go first, or sit around denying the science. The US needs to act, we need to act in a major way, and we need to act now. I may not trust the government to do its job in that respect, but something needs to be done, and fast.

Trans people may have hormones and surgeries and jobs, children, discrimination etc. to worry about, but that does not excuse us from being responsible world citizens.

Lest you're worried about the reliability of my stats, they come from NationMaster (http://www.nationmaster.com/), a site which compiles stats about countries from major institutional sources: United Nations, WTO, World Bank, WHO, CIA World Factbook, etc. It's about as reliable as you can get on these things.

[JillEclipse]

there is only one hope for the humanrace. we can only educate ourselves to a degree. we are limited by the capacity of our minds.
there is only1 hope...we must develop a technology that will improve our minds and bodies.

otherwise we are doomed as a species, and fearfully a planet.

the shadow goverment only exists to control. nothing more. they control simply for control's sake. they are non-intelligient. they do not benefit, even sadistically, from making our world miserable. they do not do it for self-gratification. they are possibly an alien race originating from another planet known as the Reptilians. they are only intelligient in the sense that a computer is intelligient.

[Laura91]

they are possibly an alien race originating from another planet known as the Reptilians.

Please tell me you are joking.

[JillEclipse]

No...I said possibly. Its a possibility but I am not completely sure. Reptilian hybrids usually have to wear contacts to hide their orange pupils. They are almost always in high ranking positions like legislators and reporters. Occasionally they can rotate their eyes completely independantly from one another.