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What do you do when

Started by notyouraverageguy, April 27, 2010, 12:56:50 AM

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notyouraverageguy

Your "friend" calls you by your birth name, on purpose?

It pisses me off, &I get rly rly mad &hurt.
Gender expression is NOT gender identity.

Defective Catastrophe.
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Lachlann

Call them a much more embarrassing name every time they do it.
Don't be scared to fly alone, find a path that is your own
Love will open every door it's in your hands, the world is yours
Don't hold back and always know, all the answers will unfold
What are you waiting for, spread your wings and soar
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LordKAT

Stop considering them a friend.
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alex408

Quote from: LordKAT on April 27, 2010, 01:10:33 AM
Stop considering them a friend.
Agreed.  That's horrible. I think I'd deck a friend if they did they to me purposely. 
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confused

what lachlann said , and what kat said for some

i've been always called names (not birth names but bad too lol) and i found out that if you don't seem annoyed and get them back by calling them other names that's more or less presses on their greatest insecurities makes them stop . of course there are others who don't even deserve my friendship , but i still get them back
and yeah that could be mean sometimes but you do what you gotta do
good luck
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LaPapito

 ;D Hello all...I'm pretty lucky me given name and tha name I use today is a universal one...my twin even sports tha' same name (male form of course)  :o but if'n you didn't kno' that I had a twin...me name would still be passing to fit whom I identify with... O0


My Thoughts are My Own...Any Likeliness to Yours...Means Simply (that) Artistically Our Minds Think Alike...!!! ;D
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Ryan

Ignore them.
If someone calls you by anything other than your name, don't respond because it's not your name.
They'll soon learn that the only way to get your attention is to call you by your proper name!
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zombiesarepeaceful

I ignore them. Walk away. But if they're in my face and I know I won't get in trouble for it, I'll punch them. If a friend who I can trade punches with calls me she...I playfully punch them...cause I know it's not on purpose. Still. It hurts. And if I get mad enough and can't hurt the person who did something? I punch walls. Not advised. If the person keeps pressing the issue, they're not my friend.
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Roro

My man's friend seems to have no issue with calling me my name to my face, but when referring to me to anyone else, especially if I'm in the room, he uses my birth name. I've told him several times that it seriously is uncool and pisses me off. He always brushes it off as a joke. It's not exactly a friendship I can end. He's come over every Saturday for the last 10 years, and they have known each other for over 15. Everything else he acts accepting of, just not the name thing. He seems to think it's just playful teasing, but I've told him over and over again that it's not okay. I've told my husband to tell him on my behalf. Maybe that would make it stick? No. Not so much.

So I have 2 people in my life who refuse to use the correct name. That friend, and my grandmother who is about nine million years old and can hardly remember my birth name. I don't want to confuse her any more than she already is, so I leave well enough alone.
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notyouraverageguy

Im not good with comebacks.
Im not so good at being mean.

I figured they meant to hurt me, which is why I put "" around friend. Cause seriously who does that.

I don't think I could hit them.
But they know it gets me so angry, that it looks like I would.

And usually, I don't respond when that name is spoken... unless its with family, yuck.
:/

Roro, have u tried having a one on one talk with him explaining everything &how it makes you feel. If he's been around that long, he should be more understanding than that you know... well maybe the longer you've known someone that harder it is... hmm, try just walking out of the room.
Lol
Gender expression is NOT gender identity.

Defective Catastrophe.
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Roro

Oh I've tried. We had a long long discussion, and all that came of it was him thinking the whole situation was funny. Seriously annoying. I just give him mean looks and try to reinforce good behavior. Last week I got him a slice of pie for getting it right. Maybe I need more pie. He's one of those gruff, grumpy, types that's probably really insecure but uses sarcasm and rude behavior to make himself feel bigger. Amazing how he doesn't have all that many friends left, huh? What really gets my goat is that he has an MtF friend who he would NEVER do that to.

*edit* As strange as it is that I never saw this before now. He sees his other friend as truely female and doesn't want to be hurtful. He and I have always had the kind of relationship where we pick on each other and toss around burns etc. We only started getting along after he stopped treating me like a girl. Though I like the whole dynamic of the rest of our friendship, that name thing has GOT to change. Screwing with each other is one thing, but when it's downright hurtful, it's got to stop.
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Adio

At the time it happens, you could correct them with your preferred name.  Later, pull them aside and explain that using your birth name hurt you/made you upset/whatever you felt.  Tell them that continuing to use that name on purpose will damage your friendship.  Thank them the next time they say your preferred name.

Ignoring the problem, using violence, and ending the relationship won't solve the problem.

Just my opinion.
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LaPapito

 ;D personally I would just say..."Oh I'm sorry, are you talking to me or someone else..." leave it at that und walk away....you can baffle them with "bull-->-bleeped-<-" bully them with "violence" but in the end, whose really tha' hurting one...??? just walk away und let it raise...Ignorance IS NOT a BLISS...its STUPIDITY...!!!

Or you could truly find a name that they absolutely abhor themselves, und everytime they call you "Jane, Mary or Sheila" you respond by calling them, "Igor, Festus" or worst "Jeezabel" und see how they respond...fight fire with fire...but intelligently...prove that you ARE tha' better Man...!!!  ;D
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Lachlann

I know a guy who just says "Who?" whenever they used his birth name. Give it a shot.
Don't be scared to fly alone, find a path that is your own
Love will open every door it's in your hands, the world is yours
Don't hold back and always know, all the answers will unfold
What are you waiting for, spread your wings and soar
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jimmymot

Quote from: Lachlann on April 27, 2010, 06:26:58 PM
I know a guy who just says "Who?" whenever they used his birth name. Give it a shot.

Haaa. I'm so doing that.
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wams

I usually ignore the person or say "thats not my name."

But as you mentioned, this person is trying to piss you off on purpose. So maybe you could just bluntly tell them that if they don't respect you you won't respect them either. And then just ignore them if they continue to be rude.
Friendships that hinder you rather than help you really aren't worth it.
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BoyDani

Ugh, I hate that ->-bleeped-<-! and it happens to me all the time! Not only do they call me my birth name they call me this hideous, awful nickname that's SO annoying! and they call me 'Desmond' because they decided to mock me when I came out! Only reason one friend does it is because of this homophobic bitch I don't even consider my friend anymore, though. "I'm not going to be friens with you when you're a guy." Uhm, I already AM a guy, and like I'll miss you and your homophobia. The other friend does it in good nature, I haven't gotten a chance to explain how much it hurts to her yet :/ I don't blame her much, she doesn't know or understand it. She's a great friend she's just naive, I'm afraid.

Also, my gay friends ALWAYS calls me a lesbian because I have the 'lesbian hairstyle'. I'm a gay man. *sighs* I need smarter friends, as much as I love them.
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Cowboi

What is with the violence in this thread? lol. Anger management issues anyone? It does no good to hit someone or fight with them about this kind of thing. My suggestion is flat out tell your friend they are acting like an ->-bleeped-<- and making him/herself look like a jack ass. Tell them you won't deal with this kind of behavior/disrespect from someone who is supposed to be your friend, at that point you can choose rather or not it's worth adding in that you are considering ending the friendship because of their actions. That is a personal choice based on what you can handle and feel is necessary.


Quote from: Roro on April 27, 2010, 12:38:54 PM
He seems to think it's just playful teasing, but I've told him over and over again that it's not okay. I've told my husband to tell him on my behalf. Maybe that would make it stick? No. Not so much.

So I have 2 people in my life who refuse to use the correct name. That friend, and my grandmother who is about nine million years old and can hardly remember my birth name. I don't want to confuse her any more than she already is, so I leave well enough alone.

I hate people like that, it's weird how they seem to honestly not get it, but you kind of know and see that they DO get it. Do you personally know his other trans friend, perhaps she could appeal to him on your behalf if he does truly respect her as much as it sounds like he does. Although maybe he only respects her because he is concerned she is strong enough to actually fight him if he pushes his luck and he just hides behind the excuse of not wanting to hurt her feelings.

As for the grandmother thing, serious problems for me and Bianca as well on that. First my great-grandmother doesn't recognize me that well anymore, she gets me confused with my brother (She is in her late 90s and starting to have memory/recognition problems in general though). It is weird considering my brother is huge compared to me, he weighs almost twice as much as me and is over half a foot taller. I suppose we do look almost exactly alike other than that though, so it's kind of understable lol. My grandparents just act as if nothing has changed at all. They don't recognize that there has been any kind of change in my life. Despite my being engaged to marry a transsexual woman, my facial hair and voice, and every person in my immediate family (including my brother's children) using male pronouns and calling me Seth..... I think that is one of the worsts. It isn't even denial, it's purely intentional and cruel. My grandmother is a pretty mean woman, and she does like to keep up "appearances".

My fiancee's family has a hard time with me calling her Bianca and she. They always seem to still use her old name and male pronouns, every time I refer to her you can just kind of see the room stop for a second. Not out of anger or any kind of "static" over it, just like genuine weirdness, it's obviously still strange for them. ONE time her father introduced her to a neighbor as his daughter. It was the only time he has ever recognized her as a woman. And her grandmother spells Bianca wrong on every card, but it is an actual mistake lol. Binaca? what kind of a name would that be, haha.
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Roro

Quote from: Cowboi on April 29, 2010, 02:52:08 AM
Binaca? what kind of a name would that be, haha.

It would be the mintiest most freshest name around.
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kyril

Quote from: Roro on April 27, 2010, 03:03:55 PM
Oh I've tried. We had a long long discussion, and all that came of it was him thinking the whole situation was funny. Seriously annoying. I just give him mean looks and try to reinforce good behavior. Last week I got him a slice of pie for getting it right. Maybe I need more pie. He's one of those gruff, grumpy, types that's probably really insecure but uses sarcasm and rude behavior to make himself feel bigger. Amazing how he doesn't have all that many friends left, huh? What really gets my goat is that he has an MtF friend who he would NEVER do that to.

*edit* As strange as it is that I never saw this before now. He sees his other friend as truely female and doesn't want to be hurtful. He and I have always had the kind of relationship where we pick on each other and toss around burns etc. We only started getting along after he stopped treating me like a girl. Though I like the whole dynamic of the rest of our friendship, that name thing has GOT to change. Screwing with each other is one thing, but when it's downright hurtful, it's got to stop.

I know this kind of friendship - it's pretty common among guys. The sarcasm, the trading insults, all of it. And that's enough information to say for sure that you'll get nowhere with violence, mean looks, sarcasm, ignoring, or any other approach that can be read as play or aggression. Even if you get him to change most of the time via pie or whatever other bribe you can arrange, he'll still have the idea in the back of his mind that your birth name, gender, etc. are OK subjects for teasing when he really wants to get to you.

You have to change the tone and make it clear that this isn't a joke, it's not business-as-usual, you're actually serious. You might have to do that several times. When he uses your birth name (or anything similar) just shut off all the aggression and stop all the jabs and sarcasm and jokes. Don't cry, don't react emotionally at all, just be calm and say what you need to say. Basically, when you do that, from his perspective you're shutting off the friendship - you can reinstate it when he 'gets' what you're trying to tell him.


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