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Still not sure what I am...

Started by Katelyn, May 16, 2010, 04:21:10 PM

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Katelyn

About more than 2 and a half years since I've been trying to figure out myself, I'm still not sure about what I am and It's stalling my life now, leading me to be in a sort of gender limbo.

In my heart, I wish I could be female, I like seeing myself as female, I want to have a female body, I like being with women as a woman, and I would love to be a part of the female world.

However, I've been dealing with rampant sexism from my mind, since my mind (or rather, the critical and judgemental part of my brain) percieves women as the weaker sex (with the help of things such as TV), and has tried to discourage me for these past years and degrade the image of women and femininity in my mind (perhaps because this an ongoing unfinished decision and the fear accompanied from doing such a big thing in my life), and the fear of losing contact with my family (my mom knows but is not supportive), plus I haven't the background of most TG people (that they wished this since they were very young, I crossdressed since age 12 and I wanted to be female as soon as I found out about TS's successfully looking and passing as genetic women, at age 16, about 12 years ago), which I think may be because sexism at a very early age (and an early predisposition of worrying more about how others would see me and shaping my identity only in so that I'd be acceptable to others, rather than what I truly liked for myself), but I can't be too sure, and my inability to identify with other transgender people in this regard makes me feel alone and illegitimate.  In addition, I've suffered from a lack of support from the TG community in L.A. (where I live mostly), since its hard for me to call them since they hardly ever pick up the phone and get back to me, and its hard making arrangements.

Yet I can't walk away from this, I've been trying to at least put it in the back burner, so to speak, only to see women and be in places with womens stuff, leading me to feel sad and extremely terrible about my life.  I'm pretty sure that its impossible for me to live a male life now, without it crashing sooner or later.  Back in late 2007 to the half of 2008, I went frequently to a TG club, and I was actively exploring my female self, to the point that I could be pretty womanly naturally (including voice and such) and enjoyed being one of the girls, and since then I've increasingly pulled away, not from choice but circumstances.  My memories have been fading somewhat, but I still remember to some degree how good I felt as female when I was allowing myself to and being accepted for (I can't let myself feel female most of the time (i.e. drab mode) because I'd act female to the point of "outing" me.)   

In addition, I have a problem making friends with males because I don't like male to male friendships because they are generally unemotional, unaffectionate, and relatively distant, and with women I wish I could have girl to girl type close friendships, and I feel trapped since I can't be with other women the way I want to be.

Even though, a part of my problem has been confusion from several things, including an inability to identify with women when it comes to being with men (well, sometimes I do, other times I don't, I see women in TV favoring being with guys, which to me is pulling away from the female world), an inability to identify with women when it comes to having a family, a sort of lingering likeness of being with women in relationships and even some of the male role aspects (primarily making someone happy), a likeness of "male" things (though because I didn't feel like I was allowed to like female things when I was young) a want to please my parents, a likeness about being aggressive only in matters of justice.  I feel like these things would sort of make it hard for me to fully fit in to the female gender, but I feel also that I could change myself (unless I was able to make it compatible.)  In addition though, the fact that I could successfully come across as pretty male and even have some enjoyment of it at times makes me really confused as heck.

And another thing is my whole confusion for why I am like this.  I'm not doing this "because I've always felt female" like so many of the T-Girls here, I feel male when I'm in the drab mode, and I feel female when I dress up, but yet as much as I like, I can't feel female in the drab mode in public due to the fear of "looking out of line from the rest of the public" (and If I can't be allowed to feel it, my mind will automatically repress it to the point that I can't even feel it without doing something to bring it out again)  I dressed when I was little because I loved looking female, feeling girly / womanly, loved the clothes, seeing myself with a female bodyshape.  I did get "sexually stimulated" somewhat, but I hated the "sexual response" and I didn't identify with it, seeing it as a byproduct.  I am not sure if It's also because of my like for women, since my attraction for women physically is significantly higher when I'm in the male mode, but less when I'm in the female mode.  One of the biggest things though about all this is that I love feeling womanly, girly, and feminine (so much that I envy the girls with such girly, lovely personalities), and nothing in the male mode compares (and I've been pretty masculine in the male mode).  The only things the male mode gives is the feelings of power, security, and wide acceptance from others, but I don't feel like that is what I want in life.  I identify more with female values, including egalitarianism, affection, empathy, intimacy / closeness, caring, etc...   In sex, I highly prefer sex as a woman (including really wanting a vagina), but my sex drive isn't that high and the majority of the male role in a relationship is simply unappealing to me.  I am turned on mostly by emotion, and I can be attracted to both males and females, since what attracts me most is sweetness, niceness, and caringness, and I prefer a relationship of equals.  In addition, I have a lifetime predisposition towards passiveness, innocence, and being emotionally sensitive.

Yet the one thing that kills me the most is not having enough assurance of what I am.  I envy many TS's because it seems that most TS's are more sure of themselves than I am.  Many times I think I'm TS, but other times I think I may be bigendered, other times maybe gay, other times I think I'm just an "overtly ambitious crossdresser" that loves femininity and the female world so much.  It's really hard to be in gender limbo, and this frustration makes me feel like I'm going to be close to a mental breakdown.  In addition, my life is essentially stalled due to my unsureness of what I am (and everything comes out of identity, which gender is just too much a part of.)  I know some people here may tell me to get a therapist, but I'm still at least 2 months away from that due to my circumstances (I make money doing city photography in cities in the eastern half of the U.S., when I live in the pacific west.) 

I really would appreciate any comments, thanks.
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Katelyn

I've tried, but the fact that I've had to live with my mom (who is highly religious) and having to be stuck in the "heterosexual mainstream world" for especially the past year, its hard when your not in a conductive environment.  Sometimes I wish I had more of a rebellious personality, since I suffer from having a predisposition towards passiveness and accomodating myself for others rather than for my own self.
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Fenrir

I agree with ƃuıxǝʌ in that the first stage in trying to work this out should be making sure you are no longer reliant on your mother before you can really devote yourself to figuring this out. If you are under the constant pressure of fear that she may find out, you're not going to be able to have much clarity on the subject.
And there are plenty of TSs here that still like all the stuff they liked when they identified as their birth gender. I know plenty of people whose attributes are more stereotypically identified as belonging to the opposite gender, but no-one thinks it is strange, people naturally vary like that. Likes and dislikes are what they are, unless they are only things you are pretending to like, though from your description that might be the case for you...
I understand where you're coming from with the internalised sexism bit, by the way. I went through a phase I'm rather ashamed of after some sexist bullying where I totally rejected everything feminine about myself and basically went on a big denial hike. It took a while for me to realise that expressing only the male side of myself felt just as artificial as only expressing the female side, so I just let myself be. It was really hard at first to stop this internal filter that just told me to stop doing such-and-such femininely because it was weak/made me stupid/whatever, but it is worth it to not have to constantly analyse everything you do any more, to just accept my first instinct of how to act and roll with it.
And last of all, remember that in the end, your life is your own. You only have this one chance (according to most worldviews, reincarnation aside) to live it to the best of your abilities and be as happy as you can be. You ultimately have the power to do whatever you like, you have control over what you do. Whatever action you decide to take, make sure you aren't doing it to please other people. Even us. Which is why I also agree with the suggestion of classes to improve assertiveness, because it takes a certain amount of strength to let people see you as you really are, and from what I can tell even if that is not trans it seems to be certainly more feminine than you are letting yourself be at the moment.
Sorry for the big long essay! I hope it helps, at least.
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Janet_Girl

One of the hardest things to learn, for passive people it to just say "no".  I fought being 'me', for 54 years.  I married three times to "stay male" and each time I would begin failing to stay in that role shortly there after.

After my last marriage failed, I made the leap to transition.  There will come a time when you will just be fed up enough to step into transition, even if it is small steps.
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K8

Your impressions of what it means to be female, male, have male-to-male relationships, etc., are restricted by your experience.  As your experience with others grows, you will find there is more variety and opportunity for variety than you may think now.  At least that was what happened to me as I grew older and had more varied experiences with more people.  It may be helpful to realize that these things you see now aren't Truth but truth-as-you-see-it-now.

I know exactly who I am now, but it took me many, many years to get to this point.  I never felt that I was female but that I was neither/both male and female - sometimes more male and sometimes more female but never completely either.  Once I had the freedom to be as female as I want, I discovered that I am, indeed, just a woman - despite my background and previous anatomy.  For me, resolving my gender issues took a long time and the target – where I wanted to end up – kept moving and was never clear until I got close to it.

Also, you might look into some of the techniques for assertiveness training.  Years ago I learned some of the techniques by reading about them.  I found them helpful, although - again - it took some years for them to "take".  What it did do for me in the short-term, though, was to help me be more comfortable with how I was.

Good luck, dear. :icon_flower:

- Kate
Life is a pilgrimage.
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jesse

Katlyn my story is similar to yours when you can pm me and we can talk out of a public forum if you want
hugs
jessica
like a knife that cuts you the wound heals but them scars those scars remain
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Max1978

Hi all,

Katelyn and Jesse, I was so glad to read both your posts. I was starting to think I was strange for not knowing  ???, or at least for having a 'less than clear' gender identity. Finding out I'm not the only one is comforting.

I've just recently started talking to ppl about my situation, and even though not everyone was immediately enthusiastic, it sort of feels good to me to just get it out there. I don't know if this makes sense or not, but I'm tired of caring what ppl think! At the same time, by keeping this side of me a secret, I have been denying them the possibility of really knowing me. So.. now my inner dialouge is becoming a real dialogue, with all the good things and the bad things that can happen when you try to make a connection.
And actually, I was surprised about some of the really cool reactions I got.

Lately I'm strating to think maybe it's okay to not be any gender in particular... to just be that odd mix of traits and behaviours that makes up my own specific gender cocktail, so to speak. Or to be this on Monday, and something else on Tuesday..
I'll still hate having my periods and see absolutely no point in having a uterus and all that, but at least I can stop beating myself up over having to make any kind of choice about the matter...

I agree with Fenrir, in that my life is my own, and I guess I'm trying to live it without apologizing for myself, (grab myself by the proverbial balls... you could say ::)) and more so every day. I'm finding that pretty hard by the way, but 'coming out' is helping a lot!

I don't know if any of this helps you at all, but pleas elet me know either way :)
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K8

Welcome to Susan's, Max.  :icon_flower:

There's a lot of good information and good people here.  Each of our stories is unique but we have a lot in common.  Settle in, pull up a keyboard, and explore.

Be sure to look under the Announcements heading.  There you will find the rules we live by in this little world of ours:
Look through the other stuff there, too.

Your story is very similar to many here.  Good for you that you are opening up to others.  I know what a relief that can be.  Many people don't fall into the gender binary.  I hope you find a home here.

Happy exploring. :icon_wave:

- Kate
Life is a pilgrimage.
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Max1978

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