FTM and god?

[Hazard "AJ"]

Ok soo Im not sure if any of you have had this filling.. I belive in a god and i belive in some kind of hevan. But as i dont now it worry me so much about dieing and the after life. Latley i can even sleep and its all im thinking about, I am not having secend thoughts of what im doing i  now its right but any of u belive god made us this may to make it are life to become who we need to become. I scard cuz you hear so meny people say god hates you for being gay ect ect... any help?? anyone

[cynthialee]

Please contact metropolitan church of christ. (I am not a chistian but if I was I would be part of that church.)
It is a LGBT positive space.
Talk to the pastor and let him know your concerns.
Bassed on my reading and interpritation of scripture gay sex is only prohibited to men. Not women or eunichs.(trans)
(my 0.02$ It is kinda hard to be 'gay' when you are part girl and part guy dontcha think?)
I do not believe that Christ would give a crap if anyone is gay. (if Christ is indeed the god) He has bigger fish to fry.....

[accord03]

Blahh! Don't listen to these people. One min they're saying God loves everyone equally and next they're saying God hates homosexuals. Hypocrites? Definetly. Don't let it get to you.

[Nathan.]

I don't believe in god but I think that if there was one that he would be fine with LGBT people. I find it hard to believe that a god that can make the world and people and stuff would hate on gays, he made them. If being gay or trans was wrong I think we would be able to feel that it was wrong.

[Hazard "AJ"]

I don't believe in god but I think that if there was one that he would be fine with LGBT people. I find it hard to believe that a god that can make the world and people and stuff would hate on gays, he made them. If being gay or trans was wrong I think we would be able to feel that it was wrong.

Yeh i guess thats a gd way of putting it..

[madzam]

I personally do not believe in god, but similar as said before, if there was a god,I don't think he would  create people to hate them. Thus, he would not hate people who fall under the LGBT spectrum.

[Shang]

I don't believe in God per-say, but I don't think God would really care if someone was gay or any variation of.  The whole "he made us in his image" pops into my head and "thy will be done on Earth as it is in heaven" also pops into my head.  So...really...we're just doing what he programed us to do.  Granted, I don't believe in the "good" God of the New Testament and I'm more for the God in the Old Testament.

[Elijah3291]

I believe in God, and so does my mother, she is a stronger christian then I am, and she asked me if I thought I would go to hell for what I'm doing, I told her that "I'm worried I will go to hell" and she told me that I wouldn't, that God wouldn't do that.. she did say that I would be my true self in heaven, a girl.. but I don't believe that... I don't think spirits have genders, but if they do I know my spirt is male

after thinking about it more, I know God loves me.. and maybe he knew that I would be transgendered.. people say this all the time "God doesn't make mistakes, you were supposed to be a girl thats why god made you one" well maybe he did make us females, but maybe it was gods plan for us to go on this transition. Or maybe its my own hopeful thinking.

there is a verse in the bible, I forget what it is, but it goes along the lines of saying that ANYONE who accepts God and Jesus will go to heaven, and I believe in that.

[cynthialee]

I feel that transition is our personal challenge from god/des. We are  being tested to see if we will be true to self in the face of adversity.

[Muddy]

If we're referring to the God of the Christian Bible, its important to note that homosexuality, of the variety referred to in the Bible, was actually pederasty.

Homosexuality, as it exists today [consenting relationships between persons of the same gender, who are of age to consent] is not what the Bible referred to.  In those times, homosexuality was almost exclusively what we would now consider pederasty or child molestation; that is, an older man involved in an almost exclusively physical relationship with a young boy [think NAMBLA].

Careful reading of the original languages of the Bible, and understanding of the culture at the time, makes clear that they are not referring to our conception of homosexuality at all, in their condemnations.  They're referring to things that we, in fact, would all consider immoral- child rape.

[Lachlann]

It might also be important to note that a lot of things Christian churches teach today were put in there to get people afraid into going or giving their money to them. Being married before sex, sin, hell, anti-homosexuality, etc... a lot of these things Christ would have and did not agree with. A lot of it was people deciding the rules after the fact instead of actually listening to how the guy really was and intended.

[spacial]

Lachlann's right.

Don't listen to these people. If there is such a place called hell why would people go there for being or finding love?

Why would two people be condemed for bringing companionship to each other?

These same idiots who spread these lies also tell us that we should go to war. That says more about their motives than anything.

[Shang]

Lachlann's right.

Don't listen to these people. If there is such a place called hell why would people go there for being or finding love?

Why would two people be condemed for bringing companionship to each other?

These same idiots who spread these lies also tell us that we should go to war. That says more about their motives than anything.

Actually, I think they're the ones saying we shouldn't go war (I'm thinking of the Westboro Baptist Church and a couple of other churches) and that "God" doesn't like soldiers, etc. 

[TheOtherSide]

I do not believe that Christ would give a crap if anyone is gay. (if Christ is indeed the god) He has bigger fish to fry.....

exactly - he came to give the message of the SPIRIT - not to judge the flesh or how the spirit feels comfortable in flesh.

[Vancha]

I like to think there is a greater power or purpose out there, whatever it may be, but I doubt it would be comprehensible to us, or discriminate against us for what, compared to it, would be quite petty.  If there is a God as described in the many different bibles - and it's difficult to know which is correct, anyway - I don't imagine a being that supposedly loves all people would banish innocents to eternal fire.  And if God happened to do such a thing, I'd want nothing to do with him... and perhaps I am bold enough to admit that.

[Lachlann]

Lachlann's right.

Don't listen to these people. If there is such a place called hell why would people go there for being or finding love?

Why would two people be condemed for bringing companionship to each other?

These same idiots who spread these lies also tell us that we should go to war. That says more about their motives than anything.

Actually, I think they're the ones saying we shouldn't go war (I'm thinking of the Westboro Baptist Church and a couple of other churches) and that "God" doesn't like soldiers, etc. 

I think you guys are both right to be honest. Different churches and eras of churches all had different ideas and forms of extremism.

Wars get started over greed and ego. Beliefs get tied into that, but in the end it's about the greed and the ego that these people have and it's all been channeled negatively. These are the people who don't get it. Christ wouldn't care what land who has in position, he's the one who made it, he can take it back whenever he wants. Unfortunately, sometimes we have to go to war to stop a war or to defend ourselves. It's a vicious cycle.

But I think disrespecting soldiers is low too. I think the Westboro Baptist Church and others like it are just as hateful and damaging. But the thing is, we can't forget that other churches and religions are at war right now either. Some churches/religions are anti-war to the point of being too extreme and other ones are starting them. But it's all a scapegoat to greed or ego. When you get down to it, the general message of most of these religions is that war and killing are wrong, but these people are corrupted.

[Devin87]

I started trying to transition a little over 4 years ago, but I stopped partly because I was Catholic at the time and I thought it was a sin and whatnot (that's not the whole reason, but it played a significant part).  I'm Jewish now and I'm a fairly liberal Jew, so me and most of the members of my congregation are sure God is fine with it (if any don't believe that, they haven't said anything).  I believe in reincarnation and some of the rabbis teach that Jewish souls can be reincarnated into non-Jewish bodies for different reasons (everything from getting the opportunity to choose Judaism on one's own by converting instead of just being born in to having been so scared by atrocities done to you in a previous life that you're afraid to be born Jewish).  They way I figure it, if Jewish souls can be born into non-Jewish bodies and converting back to Judaism is considered good and reaffirming, maybe male souls can be born into female bodies and can "convert" back to being male.  But then again this won't help most of you since Christianity (and most Jews for that matter) doesn't believe in reincarnation.  It's just how I see it based on my beliefs.

[accord03]

The bibles are written by people and the passages are edited by Christian leaders these days. If we were to believe every bible that is out there is God's word then he must be a real hypocrite, right? So, I believe in the statement that God loves everyone equally and he is NOT going to send homosexuals to hell cause God is our father, we are his children and ever since we were in our mothers womb he has planned our destiny and fate. For us, he has planned that we're meant to be the opposite gender but he has put in a different body to see if we could overcome these barriers that he has placed in front of us. All we got to do is be true to ourselves, build a wall around us and keep moving forward. God is the strength, power and the courage inside all of us. So NO, I don't think we're going to hell at all.

[M.Grimm]

The bottom line is that it is PEOPLE who are saying "God hates". It says everything about those people, and nothing at all about God.

[jainie marlena]

The bottom line is that it is PEOPLE who are saying "God hates". It says everything about those people, and nothing at all about God.

God knows how it feels to have the wrong body (churches) represent how he feels. It does not feel good to live a lie. they make God look bad to people who are unfamiliar with him. the Spirit part of God is addressed in the bible as He, she and it in different part of the bible. so what does that say about God.