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What is mindfulness, what is it useful for and what can it help me to achieve?

Started by Iceprincess, June 27, 2010, 06:01:58 PM

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Iceprincess

A couple of days ago, I was talking with a friend. During that conversation, I came out to him and confessed him my feelings regarding to my body and gender, and all of a sudden we started to talk about meditation as a way to find out if I really need to become a female.

Anyway, he started to tell me about mindfulness, which, as what I understood from him, and Wikipedia, as well as other internet sources, means to focus on the moment and not let any thoughts deviate our concentration from what we have to do. However, it's still unclear for me.

I've read the Wikipedia article regarding to this kind of meditation, but I'd like to know more about it. What is it, and what is not? What are their applications and, how can it help me during my life?

Thanks for your replies people! ^_^
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Janet_Girl

To me mindfulness is be aware of your choices, your body and a sort of enlightenment.  To be in tune with your true higher being.
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spacial

I know of this. It's basically what you have described. But takes a lot of practice. It involves shutting out thoughts not concerned with the present. But isn't as simple as that.

A meditation technique you can use, that is similar to transendental meditation is this.

Find a comfortable place to sit where you won't be disturbed for about 30 mins.

Sit comfortably, with your back as straight as possible, your head facing forward, your hands held losely infront.

Close your eyes and try to listen to the rythmn of your thoughts.

This needs some explaination.

Ignore your breathing. Ignore any other sounds such as ticking clocks. Let your thoughts flow, where ever, much like you do when you start to fall asleep. But listen to the pattern or rythmn of the thoughts, rather than the thoughts themselves.

It takes a bit of practice, but most people are surprised at how easy it is to pick up. Some people describe it like a meaningless sound, usually 2 syllables.

When you have found that rythmn, think about it.

When you realise you are thinking about something else, bring yourself back to that rythmn.

Keep doing this, when you are aware of thinking about something else, bring yourself back to your sound.

Do this for about 20 minutes.

Give yourself a break of about 12 hours before doing it again. When you do do it again, try to use the same sound.
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Rosa

Mindfulness helps us get past our delusions and fabrications and helps us to see our true self, or lack of self.  There are a wide variety of techniques to help develop mindfulness, from simple breathing exercises to complex meditations.  You have to find what is best for your situation and apply the practice.

Here is a nice article (PDF) on mindfulness by Ven. Thubten Chodron, a Tibetan nun in the Gelug tradition:  http://www.thubtenchodron.org/GradualPathToEnlightenment/LR_121_8FoldPath_11Jul94.pdf
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rejennyrated

Quote from: Iceprincess on June 27, 2010, 06:01:58 PM
A couple of days ago, I was talking with a friend. During that conversation, I came out to him and confessed him my feelings regarding to my body and gender, and all of a sudden we started to talk about meditation as a way to find out if I really need to become a female.
Its a great idea... and indeed something which was a key element in my transition. I can't really improve on the references that others have given so I will confine my post to the positive contribution that following this technique made to my development.

It was only when I entered a truly mindful state that I fully realised how deep the need to be physically female really went.

I think most of the time, as pre-transition young adults, we run around with the delusion, often encouraged by so called therapists, that we can "cope" as we are. I certainly did that from age 18 or so to 21 when the mirror truly started to crack in earnest and I rediscovered the truth which I had so busily been surpressing.

In my case, when I became mindful I understood that a lot of the frantic activity that I was engaged in was really a cover to preven myself from knowing as an adult, that which I had instinctively always known as a child, which was that I WAS a girl, whatever the illusions of my body might suggest, and that there could be no escaping that fact. The only question was what to do about it. Once I percieved that then there was no alternative but to transition and pursue SRS a soon as possible because no other choice made any logical sense.
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tekla

I guess the first thing I'd try to be mindful of is that the concept of mindfulness, as well as its practice, are but a small part of an all-encompassing world-view and life philosophy of Zen, and when separated from (devoid of) the totality of zen it's of little more use then the Resurrection is without the Fall, Original Sin, the Promise, and the Passion. 

But in short: it's knowing that nothing anyone said or did - or didn't say, or didn't do - in the past can ever be changed, and all your thinking, contemplating, obsessing, and all that about anything in the past is a useless exercise and only serves to make your present even worse.

That all your planning, scheming, star-trip dreaming about the future tends not to make much of a wave either.  Sooner or later the future is going to happen without you even in it.  That's how much of a key player you are to the future.  So all that shaping, molding, planning, making agendas, working out conversations in your head, all that 'well someday...' is just as much a waste of time as dwelling in the past.

Meditation is little more than sitting down and telling yourself to shut up for a while.  No, really, sit down and STFU.  Stop that constant internal dialog you have going on.  It's not helping you.  In fact, no doubt - as it is for most people - its a hindrance to the most basic enjoyment of life.  It's that dialog of 'wanting,' 'needing,' and the worst - 'DESIRING' (or as the Bible called it 'covet,' and desire, or covet if you will is like the worst dope habit ever!) - that messes up your life because as soon as you sit down and stop all those voices, ideas, attitudes, notions - all the ->-bleeped-<- people have tried to shovel in there - you find out you don't need any of it.  None.  Not a thing.

Meditation can aid you in getting to a place where you come to understand those things about the past and the future (and to stop living in your mind in both the past and future) and to see, witness and be a part of the greater understanding that everything you need in life is right here, right now.  That this moment is everything for now and forever after.  That all of this pretty much is as it is, and we don't get to do much about it.  Wanting things to be different - wanting the universe to change - well the universe is more powerful than you are and that resistance eats you alive, because its vast and powerful and you tend not to mean ->-bleeped-<- to the universe, so thats bad on you.

The only way to 'heal' the past (or at least mitigate it) is by doing the right thing in the present moment.  Likewise, the only thing that will even possibly shape the future is what you're doing right now, in the present moment.

The only way to live in this exact moment (and Zen and the Tao both agree on this, it's the central unifying concept) is to accept what is in front of you without wishing it to be any different than it is.*  Because wanting change only sets up resistance.  Peace is found not in conquering, overcoming, or winning - but, rather, in simple continuation.

To this degree (and it's why I think talking about it out of context is like having a transmission to an automobile and not anything else, it's kind of abstract, heavy and not likely to go anywhere on its own) I think that though meditation aids us in focusing on the present (if only because in the beginning it takes all your mental powers and then some to STOP that internal dialog and find out how to be here now) its not a be all and end all.  And in that sense, if one is asking if they are 'useful' then perhaps the correct question is not being asked in the first place.

Use and utility, and particularity achievement, are very Western concepts, and as such are pretty much the counter to Zen and Taoist thought.  Achievement is just about the most counter Zen concept in the world.

The zen master reply would be, I assume: you use it to get rid of thought about always trying to use things so you can achieve something..  What you should 'obtain' from Zen practice is not wanting to 'attain' anything.

It is very much about being in the minute, being here now, and all that.  So if you're walking away from such things with 10 point action adjendas about 'what we have to do' then something is not right, because its not about doing at all.  Its really much more about not doing.  It's about acceptance, supplication, and the stillness that comes with those understandings, primarily that of: how can I best work with the universe and not against it, how can I be the most useful, what can I do for others?  You search for the right thing to do, or be as you feel it, as opposed to as you desire it.  And if you do it right, in those things peace, love, harmony/balance, and understanding are found.  And indeed, they are not found anywhere else.



* - That's the entire deal, the end teaching, in one sentence.

FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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alia

Mindfulness meditation as I know it is any technique that cultivates focus on the present moment, usually through some sort of grounding physical mechanism like the rise and fall of breath. One observes sensation and the interaction between emotion and sensation and views these sensations without judgment.

My first encounters with mindfulness were through yoga and rock climbing, then later through a formal technique of sitting meditation called Vipassana, though my experience with meditation starts quite a bit earlier with Transcendental Meditation, then later sitting Zazen, the sitting practice of zen meditation.

Meditation through yoga, rock climbing, and sitting practice, as well as mindfulness of sensation and emotion throughout my daily life was the mechanism though which I discovered my female identity.

After coming out to myself, these practices allowed me to examine the nature of craving and aversion associated with gender dysphoria. Now the act of transition comes from a place of purity and action, rather than a reaction to the profound sense of revulsion to my body I had cultivated over the years (without even knowing that I was trans).

Gotta say, never been more comfortable with myself. I experience emotion, attraction, my girliness, my butch rockclimberness, and pure, unadulterated love without longing to be something that I'm not.

Anyway, if you have any questions or need someone to get you oriented with meditation, just hit me up and I'll try to point you in the right direction.

Peace and Love!
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Ruby

A very balanced response, Alia; one that seems to have ended the discussion. I'm new here and poking around in the areas that interest me. Thanks for this topic, one dear to my heart and my experience. Y yo vivo en Washington tambien, Alia, pero no escalo las montanas, solamente las amo.
The purpose of life is to be happy.
                  ~ The Buddha
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alia

Ruby- how far along are you in transition? If there's any way I can help you, let me know. I live in north Seattle right now, and I can help you connect to the trans community here if you wish.

Cheers,

Ryan
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Ruby

Hi Ryan (Alia?)
I am natal female; my wife of 21 years is MTF and began transitioning 2 years ago. We live in downtown Seattle and also on Salt Spring Island, BC. Thanks for the offer of help. We are pretty far along on the transition road; Chelsea just had SRS in Thailand Dec 8th; we've been home since Jan 5th. We have a good network of friends here: trans and cis. We enjoy meeting others; we have one trans friend with a spiritual teacher (not sure what sect) but otherwise no dharma buddies in the trans world. Do you come downtown? Would you enjoy getting together?
Metta,
Ruby
The purpose of life is to be happy.
                  ~ The Buddha
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alia

Salt Spring is amazing. I was in Ganges this last spring cruising on the way to a (cancelled, eventually) regatta in Van. What a beautiful place! I go to ingersoll quite a bit- you guys should check it out!

http://www.ingersollcenter.org/

Good for you for sticking with your wife on this crazy turbulent, fun and intriguing road!

I'd be very down with getting together to sit sometime. I sit vippassana when I do sit (lately savassana is about that only still meditation I can muster : )

Ciao!
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