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What does being treated like a female feel like?

Started by Megan, August 07, 2010, 08:31:45 AM

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lilacwoman

Quote from: Virginia Marie on August 07, 2010, 08:12:14 PM
LOL... I just got back from the store where I asked the girl at the checkout if they sold individual postage stamps... She didn't know and asked the mgr. who  came over and told my boobs that they only sell books of stamps
:D :D :D :D :D
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childofwinter

I just want to point out that rape can happen to anyone regardless of sex or gender, and even women rape (sometimes, they even rape other women).

I personally do try not to frighten women when walking behind them or if it's night time. Women have to be extra careful and have to worry about things that men don't have to, so I don't want to add to that.
I have no concrete idea of my gender identity, but I believe I am an Androgyne.
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Megan

I guess I'll never transition as a woman, since today I saw this man on television and I thought to myself, "I want to look just like him, he acts a lot like me". Well then I thought of womanhood, it's not being a woman that I want, but being treated like one more so. In other words, since that made no sense, I just want to be treated special I guess. I think I can do that just as a guy, and I really like my body shape. I don't want breasts, or a vagina really. I don't even need a waist, or small hands or feet. I just want long hair and a very skinny body. Feminine qualities I guess.

It was a realization of realizations, and I am pretty sure it's what it is. I daydream being a woman because I want to use fantasies of a happier life as a woman, like I want to be pretty and cute. I want men to like my look, and be loved most of all. I think I just have to accept myself as a guy, and work with what I have rather than destroy what I do like about myself.

I don't think I am transsexual as much as I have a low self esteem, because I feel ugly about who I am. I don't need to be a woman, since if I do become a woman it wouldn't change a thing. It will just put me in debt and lose my family. Its not being a woman that I want, it's being me....

I guess that's it.

I won't stop spiro though because it does remove my acne.
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rejennyrated

Quote from: Megan on August 09, 2010, 02:06:53 AM
I guess I'll never transition as a woman, since today I saw this man on television and I thought to myself, "I want to look just like him, he acts a lot like me". Well then I thought of womanhood, it's not being a woman that I want, but being treated like one more so. In other words, since that made no sense, I just want to be treated special I guess. I think I can do that just as a guy, and I really like my body shape. I don't want breasts, or a vagina really. I don't even need a waist, or small hands or feet. I just want long hair and a very skinny body. Feminine qualities I guess.

It was a realization of realizations, and I am pretty sure it's what it is. I daydream being a woman because I want to use fantasies of a happier life as a woman, like I want to be pretty and cute. I want men to like my look, and be loved most of all. I think I just have to accept myself as a guy, and work with what I have rather than destroy what I do like about myself.

I don't think I am transsexual as much as I have a low self esteem, because I feel ugly about who I am. I don't need to be a woman, since if I do become a woman it wouldn't change a thing. It will just put me in debt and lose my family. Its not being a woman that I want, it's being me....

I guess that's it.

I won't stop spiro though because it does remove my acne.
Please excuse I momentary diversion...

Megan - Great to hear of your moment of truth!  :) That's what this is supposed to be all about so good for you.

I can see how that line of thinking might develop in some people. I even wonder if some who feel isolated and have trouble forming friends might look around at the ease with which we women seem to form our relationships and think "hey if I were a woman perhaps I would find it easier to relate to others." Trouble is if your brain isn't female wired already it isn't really going to work for you.

The thing with spiro and acne is to EASE gently off it and with luck your skin will stabilise and settle down. For most people acne is a transient thing which eventually passes. Either way being on spiro for life is not really a viable idea because eventually it will cause osteroporosis which trust me is a HORRIBLE and debilitatingly painful disease. There are far better ways to cure the acne which don't have life threatening and incurable side effects.

Anyway good luck in applying your new self knowledge. I Reckon that counts as a result. :)

Sorry for the diversion - I now return the rest of you to your thread.... ;D
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Megan

Eventually I'll stop the spiro lol.

Yeah, that's what it is, the grass is greener on the other side. I experience some things transsexuals feel, but then I don't feel the same the same that most do.

If I truly was transsexual I shouldn't be so unsure that I am, since most usually know. Then when I think I am, I don't after a while. So, the only symptom I see in common with me and transsexuals is the femininity, so I am probably just a feminine man. Like the butch lesbians, and the flamer homosexuals.

Even though I don't feel like a flamer, or act like one.

I just don't feel like I need to be a woman to be happy.

It's confusing but it makes sense right now, but I don't think I am a woman now. I like being a guy for the most part.....

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pebbles

#45
Quote from: Virginia Marie on August 09, 2010, 02:50:28 AM
Hey friend, if you do or don't want to transition... That's up to you to decide... But using spiro as an acne treatment does not sound like a good idea... There are far better ways to deal with acne than chemically castrating yourself
Lower dosages of spiro are quite commonly used to control acne you don't have to completely wipe out your T production for reasonable control of your hormones.
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Pica Pica

#46
Quote from: Cruelladeville on August 08, 2010, 06:49:04 AM
Life is what you make it... with actions and deeds...

If you give out good....you'll get it back in return for sure...

Perhaps the clue her is to focus on being an enlightened being...than getting too hung up on the sex and plumbing part?

Too true.

Funny thing, reading this thread and (cultural differences notwithstanding) I feel that I get treated in a way different from either of these - that I might get treated in an androgyne way. I'll start my own thread about being treated as an androgyne and all are invited as always.

Good day.

Post Merge: August 09, 2010, 05:54:49 AM

Here's my AG topic

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,81957.new.html#new


Oh - and Virginia Marie, it is not a case of "getting back to transgender topics such as being treated like a woman... " as Megan started this thread with the intention of working out whether they felt female or not. Surely this large realisation that they don't want to become female is a big realisation, important and should be recognised as such instead of being brushed off - just felt it was a little rude is all.

Oh - and Megan, you might want to check out the androgyne part of the forum, for those who feel neither male nor female, you might find something to recognise in there - or may not.
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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gennee

I have been ma'amed many times. I had men open doors for me. I've been hit on more times than I can count. Overall it's been a wonderful experience knowing how the other half lives and experiences.

Gennee
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FairyGirl

Quote from: childofwinter on August 08, 2010, 08:44:16 PM
I just want to point out that rape can happen to anyone regardless of sex or gender, and even women rape (sometimes, they even rape other women).
That is very true, but I certainly think about it more now that I'm post-op.

This from the UCSC website, Rape Prevention Education section (http://www2.ucsc.edu/rape-prevention/statistics.html)

QuoteAn estimated 91% of victims of rape are female, 9% are male and 99% of offenders are male. (Bureau of Justice Statistics 1999)
There is a lot of good info on this site. It also reports that:

QuoteAccording to the First National Survey of Transgender Violence, 13.7% of 402 transgender persons reported being a victim of rape or attempted rape. (Gender PAC 1997)
It's a good idea for anyone to be aware of their surroundings and situation at all times. It's just good common sense.


Girls rule, boys drool.
If I keep a green bough in my heart, then the singing bird will come.
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Karla

#49
It feels all warm and fuzzy and comforting, since now I'm being much more passing and accepted. But most importantly it feels right for me, and that's the way I can tell if my life is heading where's it supposed to be.

FairyGirl, the idea of my chance of being a rape victim increasing 9-fold is really scary, especially when it's put like that in figures.  :icon_blah:
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Debra

Girls and guys smile at you more.

People want to comfort you when you cry instead of looking uncomfortable with it.

Men often open doors for you.

Baristas you see regularly might say random things to you like "how are you, gorgeous?"

People might honk their horns as they go by you walking on the sidewalk.

Auto Repair shop owners will treat you like you know nothing about cars.

Men look at your chest a lot more. =)

People call you 'hun' a lot.

You feel much more vulnerable in a dark alley.

And probably a lot more but that's a short list

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pretty pauline

Quote from: milktea on August 07, 2010, 01:01:42 PM
for me...often lining up for more than 15 minutes in a busy mall holding your bladder!
Thats so true, guys are just in and out never have to wait, Iv often stood lining up with other women & girls 20mins or more, but Iv got use to it.
A men's room is just that, they don't interact, do their business, don't speak and gone.
A ladies room is completely different, its our space, sometimes on a night out we sometimes all go to the ladies together just for a girl chat, its nice, it might be just small girly chat about fashion or hairstyles, its a nice interaction with other women, guys never do that in a mens room, only today I was in the ladies just touching up on my makeup when a complete stranger complemented me on my hair, I resently got ''tipped hightlights'' it was nice, I enjoy just be a woman everyday.
Don't get me going on the ''car thing'' yes Fiancé forbids me not to even think about it, car repairs tyres and wheel changing is forbidden territory for a woman, wells thats according to him, maybe it makes him feel less of a man, ''stand aside pauline dear, this is my job'' lol  thats men, they just love to impress a lady.
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If your going thru hell, just keep going.
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stealth2010

 What does being treated like a female feel like?

I would have to be the world's greatest poet to describe it, especially when the experience was new. Now, it just seems normal although, at times, like when I wake up with my girlfriend staring up from below my waist and saying, "How are you this morning, you gorgeous creature you?" I have to wonder, am I awake or dreaming?
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pebbles

Quote from: Jerica on August 09, 2010, 03:27:23 PMPeople call you 'hun' a lot.
hehe you get "hun"? I get "Dear" and "Sweetheart" :P

It's abit difficult for me to say much here because I only pass some of the time.
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Myself

Guys don't let you in their online versus games saying guys only cause they are afraid to have their ass kicked by a girl ;)
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Cruelladeville

Though this is polarised and very stereotype biased.... I think it quite amusing.!!

Men tend to think that relationships jeopardize their independence

Men feel that there is no need to talk about a relationship that is going well
Women feel that a relationship is only going well as long as they are talking about it...

Women find relationships a constant source of interest, attention and communication
Men don't view relationships as central...

Women talk as a primary way to become closer to another person
Men share goals and accomplish tasks together, that is there primary way to become close to another person...

Women are more emotionally responsive
Men are overwhelmed by women's expressions of emotion...

Women pay more attention to body language
Women express more love, fear and sadness
Women laugh, gaze and smile more

Men show emotion to communicate dominance...

My tip?

*s->-bleeped-<-s*

If you want a good male buddy (and want to keep him) keep doing something with him, preferably outdoorsie and adventurous... and don't keep talking about it....lol
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insideontheoutside

People have said some really good stuff in this thread!

Here's my own personal experiences/observations in handy "Top 10" format!

1. Prejudice. That's definitely the number one. Some people really don't think that just about everyone now treats women with respect. Wrong. Chauvinism is alive and well and the first time you experience it will more than likely not be the last time. And this covers a lot of topics and territory from really awful things like inappropriate sexual advances to simply assuming you don't know anything about a certain topic simply because you're female.

2. To me, it always seemed like there was some secret club going on with females. Like even if they didn't really like another female, she was still in that club and would be pulled into the fold in certain situations where the scales needed to tip in a female direction. I've observed this first hand in work place scenarios where I was the outcast - unless of course the females were "teaming up" against a male manager or something, then all of a sudden I was given in the "secret handshake" and told of the "plan". I'm sure something like this exists with men (see #5), but what I've experienced with males more is simply just more of a, we want to get away from the females for a time and just go do "guy stuff". It didn't seem so, well, I don't want this to sound quite this bad but sneaky? lol

3. Help. Some men seem to think women need help with everything. This is especially the case if you are an attractive female. I never had to personally deal with a lot of that.

4. Being referred to as, sweetheart, babe, honey, hun, etc. etc. by men you don't know. Yes, this happens. It used to really get to me if it ever happened. People that won't use your name (but use some "pet" name like this) who you AREN'T sleeping with are most often times jerks. There are plenty of more appropriate ways to refer to a women if you don't know her name ... miss and ma'am are two of them ... how about asking for a name in a polite way? That too would work. Also the use of terms like that always made me feel "lesser" ... not sure how really to explain that but it was a just a feeling like, I'm sure that guy wouldn't have come up to another guy and said, "hey honey, do you have time?"

5. The "boys club". You're not in it anymore. If you're friends with a bunch of guys and they're all going out to the bar and they don't invite you, it's because they don't want you to come. Probably because they're going to get drunk and crack dirty jokes. Sometimes, you just have to leave the boys club do it's thing and not take the non-involvement personally. I've known a lot of women who have. Especially if they're in a new relationship with someone. If they're not invited to go somewhere they start to get all emotional and think up all these crazy scenarios about why they weren't invited. I've actually been with a group of girls before when someone's boyfriend doesn't invite them somewhere and seen it go from, "omg he didn't invite me!" to "omg he's having sex with 3 hookers right now!" Amazing.

6. These all have kind of a negative spin so far huh? lol Honestly, most of the time people will treat you nicely. So be prepared to have the occasional door held open for you and other stuff like that.

7. Someone else already mentioned the long wait at a public restroom, but also be prepared for women to potentially talk to you in there or to overhear other women talking. I always thought that was the weirdest thing. Like you're in a public toilet, in a line, ready to piss your pants, and some women says something to you. Or you'll hear two women carrying on a conversation while they're sitting in the stalls. When I need to use a public restroom I just want to get in and out of there not go to a social club. lol

8. This kind of goes along with #2, but be prepared once other women accept you into their fold to have to talk "girl talk". We're talking that sort of stuff like talking about periods and other general TMI topics. I liken this to "guy talk", which is usually just tall tales and bragging about sexual prowess but can sometimes get to places like, "Dude, you ever had hemorrhoids? Man I got this crazy one right now ...." lmao. Same kinda thing, only expect it to be about "female issues" a lot of the time!

9. Workplace bias. I could easily lump this into #1 but I thought it deserved to be it's own point because I know so many women that deal with this. There is still a lot of preferential treatment going on in the workplace. Many times a man will advance up the corporate ladder while I women remains an "admin" (a catch all secretary). I have two friends in this situation now and they're kind of stuck because the job market is so bad right now. And no matter what people say, men in some professions are still making more money than women in the same professions. I've also know women in corporate environments who were very talented with a lot of great ideas but were continually snubbed at meetings. It's also very easy for employers to skirt around issues of bias by claiming that someone was "more qualified", "more experienced", etc. etc. So be aware of situations like that in the workplace and be vocal about pointing them out and about your skills and qualifications.

10. Go to a day spa. Seriously. Total experience in and of itself. lol
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Debra

Quote from: pebbles on August 10, 2010, 09:28:47 PM
hehe you get "hun"? I get "Dear" and "Sweetheart" :P

Those are always good too hehe. It's funny my aunt used to always always always call me DUDE. So I knew when she started calling me hun or sweety, that she was accepting =)

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Debra

Quote from: Myself on August 11, 2010, 12:41:24 AM
Guys don't let you in their online versus games saying guys only cause they are afraid to have their ass kicked by a girl ;)

LOL!!!!

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cynthialee

Quote from: Dee_pntx on August 11, 2010, 10:06:37 AM

Oh no no no no no no no....................
If that's what a man needs in a partner then he shouldn't be looking for women.  And I'm not going to play surrogate male just to keep a man.  No no no no..................
AGREE!
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tsu 'The art of War'
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