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Christmas memories

Started by Dennis, December 08, 2006, 10:28:03 PM

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Dennis

There are a lot of parties for kids going on and people are being asked to donate gifts, marked "boy" or "girl". It brought back memories.

I remember going to one of those and standing in the "boy" line and being pulled out of the line, I don't remember who by or why. I refused to stand in the "girl" line because I said I'd rather not have a present than have a girl present. A nice lady picked out a special present for me. Said it was not for either boy or girl (it might have been my mother who had me pulled out of the boy line, which makes that make sense). It was a reasonable compromise for me, and I really appreciated that lady's thoughtfulness. I treasured the Gumby and Pokey figures for a long time, just because she was so nice to me.

And yet, every Christmas, I would ask my parents for things like Hot Wheels, racing tracks, toy guns, and I don't remember ever getting an inappropriate present. Given my mum's constant discomfort with me doing guy things, I suspect my dad did a lot of lobbying for me. Although it might not have always been for me. I do recall always having to wait an hour or so to play with my presents till Dad was done. Then Dad and I would make the Hot Wheels tracks run through the whole house and work out the physics of jumps and loops so that the cars ran perfectly through the tracks.

One Christmas, I got an electricity kit, with plug in resistors and capacitors and a volt/ohmmeter, so you could make up your own circuit and measure the current that went in versus the current that went out. That was seriously cool.

Poor Mum. Well-meaning relatives would occasionally send dolls and crap like that and I'd dismantle them playing surgery or mash them up making them into commandos (Commando Barbie had ziplines through the woods and could kill a man with her pointy feet.) Or their body parts would get salvaged for props in my latest murder mystery play. It's just too darn bad she didn't have another kid so she could've had a girl.

Makes me very cautious when I buy presents for kids at this time of year. I used to buy my niece the coolest (in her mind) presents by picking out the thing I would've hated the most when I was a kid and buying it for her, cause she loves girly stuff. My little buddy (friend's son) loves the stuff I love, although I do have to be very careful to make it age appropriate and not violent, cause his mum doesn't approve of guns and stuff. If I didn't know a kid was into gender stereotyped stuff, I'd make the effort to find something neutral like paints.

Dennis
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Transguykid

I had a mix of toys. I did grow out of barbies earlier than my peers, but that's only because I moved on to Littlest Pet Shop and other little animal toys. One day I'd be dressing up my stuffed animals, and the next I'd be playing Army(remember those buckets of little troops?) with my dad. My guy cousins played with the same things I did until peer pressure "made" them stop, so I didn't see any problems with it.

My parent' didn't pressure me to be girly, but I think they were happier when I did it myself...blegh  :-X
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mikke

I haven't changed much. I always asked for books and computer stuff when I was little (I wanted the 'carmen sandiago' games for PC when I was in grade school and all the animorph books), and now I want parts for the server I'm building aaaand more books.  ;D <-nerd
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Julie Marie

I'm one of those people who never saw gender lines drawn in my earlier ages.  I have a sister 11 months older and we'd play whatever we felt like playing.  For the most part it was more typically what girl's did but there was also times it was boy play too.

I don't recall receiving gifts at Christmas that I saw as boy's stuff or feeling I wanted girl's stuff.  Maybe because I got all the girl stuff I needed with my sister.  But I liked playing with boy stuff too. 

I have a strong math/science mind.  So come Christmas I'd ask for erector sets, chemistry sets, things like that.  And my dad, who was very macho, never saw my requests as anything but all boy.  If I needed to play with dolls my sister had all I needed and she had no problem sharing.

When I was raising my kids I never encouraged them to follow gender expectations.  I let them decide for themselves.  There Christmas lists reflected that.  And we always filled the lists the best we could.  And no, none of my three kids has any type of gender conflict.

Julie
When you judge others, you do not define them, you define yourself.
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ConfusedMichelle

Hehe know how that is. I don't think I have ever owned a Barbie. My older sister had tons, but I couldn't stand them.  I was obsessed with WWF/WCW wrestling.  Would ask for Wrestling figures and would constantly wrestle with my older brother (8 years older than me), acting like wrestlers such as the Undertaker and Shawn Michaels hehe  :D

My parents tried to get me girly stuff, but I hated it, so they eventually gave up.

Girliest toy I had was a talking Michelle doll from the show Full House. She would say things like "You got it dude!" Wonder what ever happened to that thing?

Wow, I just realized how much of a dork I really am.
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Nero

When I was about 10, well-meaning relatives started giving me items such as makeup, perfume, and other girl things because I was becoming a 'young lady'. :icon_blah:
I didn't mind dolls or pretty things, but anything to do with my nascent womanhood was deeply disturbing.
I mostly played with 'boy' toys, but would occasionally ask for a doll in the hopes that other girls might invite to me to play with them. Never worked.
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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Kismet

I was always into the guy-stuff too. Always into the dinosaurs, the blood-gusts-'n'-gore, the video games, things like that.
Relatives whom I never knew, and who barely knew my name would send me girly stuff too, and I remember being irritated and sad, but thankful for the thought. Even as a child, I knew they just didn't understand, but they were trying.

I always asked for one thing for Christmas, but when I was little my mother encouraged me to increase the list because she couldn't always find what I wanted. So I'd ask for three things for Christmas. That's it.
It helped to have the extra two slots in there though, because sometimes I'd ask for a SOLID STEEL REMOTE CONTROL FLYING HAWK WITH LASER GUNS IN ITS EYES AND GRASPING CLAWS AND MOVING BEAK or some other ridiculous thing. Usually the other two requests were fairly mundane.
A "Feel so Real" Simba plush.
A screeching pterosaur action figure from Jurassic Park.

I dunno.
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Transguykid

Quote from: Laine on December 10, 2006, 01:20:03 AM
I haven't changed much. I always asked for books and computer stuff when I was little (I wanted the 'carmen sandiago' games for PC when I was in grade school and all the animorph books), and now I want parts for the server I'm building aaaand more books.  ;D <-nerd

Hahaha Animorphs was the best.

Here's a new question: Do transpeople have a higher likelyhood of being total nerds? I think so.

This year, I'm asking for videogames, t-shirts, and a Dungeons & Dragons Player's Handbook v. 3.5 \/\/007!
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Ricki

Dennis you made a wonderful point!
I remember all the xmas exchanges in sunday school always getting the boy gift and one year i got a girl one by accident the kids all teased me but i was secretly thrilled as you guys could imagine!
anyway.. Tis the season and some gifts should or do require some thought!
thansk Dennis..
Ricki
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Mario

I got all the boy stuff I asked for. GI Joes, Evil Kinevel Stunt Cycle Set (still one of the coolest toys ever made) Stretch Armstrong, I guess the list goes on. I started riding minibikes at age 7. My mom did not like that, but that was thast. I was lucky to get what I did want.  ;) Merry Chrismas people.

                                                     Marco
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Luc

Well, I will be having Christmas away from my family for the first time this year. So no presents. But I do have my beautiful wife to keep me happy and warm. Happy Christmas to all.

Rafe
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Melissa

Quote from: Julie Marie on December 10, 2006, 12:17:05 PM
I'm one of those people who never saw gender lines drawn in my earlier ages.  I have a sister 11 months older and we'd play whatever we felt like playing.  For the most part it was more typically what girl's did but there was also times it was boy play too.

I don't recall receiving gifts at Christmas that I saw as boy's stuff or feeling I wanted girl's stuff.  Maybe because I got all the girl stuff I needed with my sister.  But I liked playing with boy stuff too. 

I have a strong math/science mind.  So come Christmas I'd ask for erector sets, chemistry sets, things like that.  And my dad, who was very macho, never saw my requests as anything but all boy.  If I needed to play with dolls my sister had all I needed and she had no problem sharing.

When I was raising my kids I never encouraged them to follow gender expectations.  I let them decide for themselves.  There Christmas lists reflected that.  And we always filled the lists the best we could.  And no, none of my three kids has any type of gender conflict.

Now that makes a lot of sense.  I was always the same way and I had a twin sister, so your theory holds for me.  Of course I never cherished dolls like a typical girl either.  One time me and my brother ruined a bunch of my sister's barbie dolls.  I honestly don't remember why I did it.  Perhaps jealousy?  I can't remember. :P  Perhas I have always been masculine in that sense, but that didn't stop me from wanting to be a girl.

Melissa
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cindianna_jones

I remember all the times when I'd go to a party and end up with a girl thing.  It never bothered me! 

I always wanted an erector set.  I never got one.  I wanted a chemistry set, microscope, and telescope.  I never got them.  I ended up buying all of the things that I wanted for myself.

Cindi
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heatherrose

I always asked for and got,
gifts that helped to develope a curious and creative mind.
Such as erector sets, tinker toys, books and such
I never had an interest in dolls of any kind,
Barbie or G.I. Joe.

I guess I'm just an independant tomboy.
"I have always wanted to have a neighbor just like you,
I've always wanted to live in a neighborhood with you.

So let's make the most of this beautiful day,
Since we're together, we might as well say,
Would you be mine?
Could you be mine?
Won't you be my neighbor?" - Fred Rogers
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Sarah Louise

I try never to think about Christmas.  It was never good.

Sarah L.
Nameless here for evermore!;  Merely this, and nothing more;
Tis the wind and nothing more!;  Quoth the Raven, "Nevermore!!"
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cindianna_jones

Oddly enough, Christmas was the only time that the TS thing didn't plague me.  On Christmas Eve, I could never sleep... I still can't.  I loved getting presents when I was a kid. And now, I love giving them.  The whole thing absolutely transcends everything else that has weighed on my mind.  Giving presents is the most wonderful part of my life.  In fact, I love to spring presents on my family throughout the year.

Cindi
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LostInTime

I enjoyed XMas and the gifts that I used to get.  A desk, a small b&w television, chemistry set, computer, some clothes (yuck! no matter which gender, gimme toys!), and even a quarter here and there.  Music was common and so were Atari games.

I do remember my first XMas after transition.  I ended up with two or three toolsets.  Talk about being mad, that year I had actually requested clothes!
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Andrew

I remember one Christmas when my little brother got a baseball cap like Ash from Pokemon from my grandparents -- which was one of the things I'd really wanted. Me, I got some stupid girly clothes that didn't even fit me. My grandmother was always getting me arts and crafts sets and stuff like that, which I didn't really use. My parents were pretty good, though -- Hot Wheels!  ;D
Posted on: December 15, 2006, 01:18:33 PM
Which actually kind of reminds me how good my mom has been about the whole thing. Know what she sent me in a "care package" when I went off to college (besides the stuff I already had but she assumed I'd forgotten -- toothbrush, toothpaste, deodorant, etc.)? A shaving kit! Now excuse me, I've got lip fuzz to shave...dark lip fuzz, but fuzz nonetheless...
Lock up yer daughters.
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Ricki

I'm trying but my Xmas spirit is being tested thoroughly!!!!!
Could be some unnerving things going on here at the home front soon.....
Cindianna is that mushroom edible?
I need like well.. maybe 6 or 7 if possible if its  a magic mushroom that is.. hehe............. :icon_dizzy:
I did get my nephew an awesome gift he's 14 into baseball plays short stop or second base? forget.. anyway we had the Pirates pitcher zach duke in for autograph sessions at work, he signed a brand new glove i got my nephew and two balls and a picture..
Cool, i think!  if the rookie ever is good the stuff will be worth something not just money but nostalgia.. If not its a nice glove and the balls will still hit, hehe....(the boy should keep it new and locked up i case but it's his call not mine)
Got him a great deal on b-ball cleats.. they were out of his sizes in two of the only nike cleats at dicks.. 34.00 on sale.. I had to go into a 65.00 pair of adiddas shoe.. I fought the store manager like a pro female scrapper and got the 65.00 shoes for 35.00! WeHeeeeeeeee are ya lovin the holidays and the shopping fistfights or what! :icon_bumdance-nerd:
Isn;t that the worst when the stores offer these sales and never have the freakin sizes.. Aggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh
We have changes of plans, we normally have done Xmas day around 11:00am-2:00pm then the family people leave to go to their other halves... Leaving me and the mrs mom alone for pease.. Well this year due to plan changes they are coming around 4:00pm or so.. Cool gives me the whole stinkin morning of peace to myself.. Until the fatal confusion of three kids erupts!
Remember this is my baby puppy hunny's first XMas!
I have to get her something special
Ricki
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