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Which one do you dislike more: your upstairs or downstairs?

Started by Devyn, September 08, 2010, 03:40:21 PM

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Al James

I desparately want a working, talking, living BIG penis BUT  its my chest that really gets me down. At a 40D it aint ever gonna look male no matter how much binding i do so i'm 80% sure that that is the operation that will define me as a person
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Farm Boy

My chest.  It's there for everybody to see, and binding doesn't get it flat enough for me.  I really want to get surgery to get rid of it.
Started T - Sept. 19, 2012
Top surgery - Jan. 16, 2017
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Alexmakenoise

I don't hate any part of my body.  I just hate being perceived as female because it's not who I am. 
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Lewis

I'm going to be another rare one and say downstairs. But only because I'm extremely luckyto have an upstairs that's barely AA-cup sized and it binds totally flat. I can even get away without wearing a binder at all, with some of my clothes, and still pass.

Downstairs-wise, it's not the presence of a vagina that bothers me. I have no interest, positive or negative, in that at all, it just does nothing for me (except bleed in an annoying way once a month). But the lack of a penis - that's what gets me the most. I can feel it, like a phantom presence, nearly all the time. But I can't see it or touch it and that's the worst thing for me. I wear a packer all the time because it feels wrong not to. I'd sooner go out in public without binding than without packing.
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gilligan

For me, it's my top that bothers me the most. As I am asexual, no one is going to see that I don't have a penis (other than maybe a doctor). I can always pack for that purpose. But my top is huge, 44DD to be specific. Although I am overweight enough to realistically have man-boobs, they just don't look like your typical overweight cismale's moobs.

As for bottom, since no one sees that, surgery isn't necessary, but I detest monthly flows. I think T would get rid of that. So no problem there.
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." ~Dr. Seuss
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Xren

Downstairs.  All the way.  That's the part which makes me the most uncomfortable.  I could deal with having small manboobs, as long as my chest isn't overtly female--for a while I could pass wearing a tight shirt and a sports bra from target--but I couldn't live the rest of my life with a vagina.

On a day to day basis it might seem like my upper half gets the most grumbling-about, but that's because it's an easier target.  If I regularly acknowledged how much grief my lower half gives me overall, how much discomfort and disgust I have towards it, I'd have trouble keeping myself hopeful.
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PixieBoy

My chest, definately. It's what people will see the easiest, it doesn't bind nicely and it is what I most usually have to "mentally photoshop" away from my reflection. My curves also bug me, and my huge rear. I look like Midna...



I have no real opinion of downstairs, it just... is. I can wank with those parts, and they bleed sometimes, but I don't really give 'em much thought. I don't care about them.
...that fey-looking freak kid with too many books and too much bodily fat
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Vancha

Downstairs for me, but both are horrible.  I think the chest impedes my ability to interact with people, move, and simply exist comfortably, but the downstairs stuff will always impede my relationships, my sex life, my... everything.  That is to say, I don't have relationships; I don't have a sex life.  The chest can be taken care of, probably will be next year; I'll be damned lucky if I ever get anything close to a real, normal-sized fully functioning penis, which is exactly what I want.  I'm not about to give up, though.  But all in all, the bottom dysphoria is going to be with me for a lot longer than the chest stuff, and I think it psychologically affects me on a much deeper level. 
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Miniar

Quote from: Maldita on September 10, 2010, 12:22:22 AM
My curves also bug me, and my huge rear. I look like Midna...

Yah,.. you and me both.
I've accepted my wide hips cause hubby likes to grab 'em.



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Konnor

Lol I look like that cartoon character too. Most guys jeans look ridiculous on me because of my hips and thighs. Ugh...this body sucks.
"It takes more courage to reveal insecurities than to hide them, more strength to relate to people than to dominate them, more manhood to abide by thought-out principles rather than blind reflex. Toughness is in the soul and spirit, not in muscles and an immature mind." --Alex Karras
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Him

I don't mind my chest- It's my crypt I loath.
Damn thing- can't please my woman with it XD Farts in the morning.
Bleeds. Chafes. I go years some times on dry spells because I can't stand any sort of 'intimacy'.
Though I suppose I'll never have parts to please my 'cave woman' with XD;

My breasts are tiny- so I can hide them fairly easily.
I also slouch a bit and not go directly looking down at them.
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LoganTyler

i'd have to say i hate my upstairs even with binding it still looks like i have man boobs and i just cannot handle that. ugh. not to mention all the health issues my chest is causing... i can so live with my downstairs... minus the reproductive organs and such. blegh.

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jmaxley

Quote from: Him on September 17, 2010, 01:16:57 AM
I don't mind my chest- It's my crypt I loath.

That's what I'm going to start calling it.  Much better than some of the names people where I live call it.  I had somebody ask me when I get "the change", what am I going to do with my moo-moo.  Arrrrgh on so many levels.
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Aegir

Definitely downstairs. I hate not having a penis, that would be bad enough- but to add insult to injury I bleed once a month.

I honestly wouldn't give more than half a ->-bleeped-<- about upstairs if downstairs were in order; the surgery for upstairs gives reliable results as far as flattening and reshaping goes and I'd feel better about things to begin with.
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Jamie

I hate my chest!
I don't like what's downstairs too, but chest is bigger problem for me.
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HarryP

Well my chest is more annoying on a daily basis, along with my annoyingly feminine hips and bum the size of a bus! It's fine when I am relaxing in trackies and t-shirt, but I just can't find formal trousers that hide my curves, and, well, we all know how uncomfortable binding is.  (Although, tip for other guys with big hips - Adidas techfit boxers.  They're compression pants for sportsmen and do a fab job of making my bum stick out behind me, like a guy's, rather than out to the side like a girl's - and they squish my love handles!)

Anyway, to answer the question, despite the annoyances of binding, I hate downstairs more.  At least I can imagine what my chest will one day look like, and console myself with the fact that I have seen men on the beach with bigger moobs than me! I don't know what downstairs will eventually look like, but for now I just find it really gross, and it frustrates and saddens me that I have to resort to a strap-on in order to have sex with my boyfriend, and I don't like letting him touch me.  I just want to be able to unzip my jeans and get going without faffing about with rubber willies!  ;)
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Greg

Most definately chest. Every waking hour I get self conscious about it at least once. In the moring when I have a shower I see my face and chest together and the combination is bizzare. 
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trnsboi

Downstairs. In fact, I really like my tits. Well, I don't exactly like having them but everyone who has seen them has commented on how nice they are. I know it may sound arrogant, but they're one of my best features. If they weren't so nice I would have already had top surgery, but being as they are I feel like it would be dumb of me to have them lopped off (and I REALLY do not want to spend $8k to have scars across my chest forever).
On the other hand, I really hate how much weight they add (they make me slouch) and I hate wearing binders and bras, so as far as comfort goes I often wish I didn't have them. If peri were an option for me I'd do it but I'm a large C cup so I would need the double incision and, like I said, I'm not down with the scars. So yeah, it's something I struggle with.


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rexgsd

Quote from: Elijah on September 08, 2010, 04:53:18 PM
I'm gonna agree with silver.

my bottom dysphoria is worse.. top is bad too, but bottom is worse.  for a few reasons.

-my chest grossness will be gone within a few years, but bottom surgery is realistically not going to happen, i will always have a vagina, and never have a decent sized penis.
-the lack of dick really bothers me
-the anatomy of the vagina/ vulva is very unappealing to me, I find it repulsive that I actually have one.
- I am a gay guy, most gay guys hate vaginas
-I COULD get pregnant, that is terrifying for me.
-the fact that I have ovaries and stuff, repulsive to me.
-if i want a bulge, i have to pack, ad packing is uncomfortable and its not real.
- sex and masturbation, i feel i am missing out
-periods

this. you basically took the words right out of my mouth. why do you say you will always have a female downstairs, if you dont mind me asking? are you non-op cause of the options or something?
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Elijah3291

Quote from: rexgsd on September 21, 2010, 04:46:37 PM
this. you basically took the words right out of my mouth. why do you say you will always have a female downstairs, if you dont mind me asking? are you non-op cause of the options or something?

yea, I am non (genital) op, at least for now.  meta seems like it could be nice, but not good enough for the money and pain.  and Phallo is deff not for me.
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