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Started by iris1469, September 25, 2010, 10:00:40 AM

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Carlita

Quote from: Britney_413 on September 28, 2010, 02:22:09 AM
It sounds to me that the person you met who said "I like being transsexual" doesn't know what that means. An MTF TS is simply a woman born in a man's body, simple. As I've stated in other threads a lot of people call themselves TSs and wear it like a badge of honor, something that is different and special, parade it around, etc. It is ok to be happy with who you are as it gives you self esteem and purpose in life. However, if someone is truly a woman in a man's body I don't see why they would be acting any differently than genetic women normally do. I don't even see the point to this whole thread or question. I'm sick of trans women being subjected to femininity standards that cis women would never tolerate. A TS woman is simply a woman period who just needs to change various attributes of her body. Some GGs have hairy armpits and some don't. If being a TS is about how girly you look, the size of your boobs, about "being trans" and comparing yourself to other "->-bleeped-<-s" then you are not a TS but a crossdresser. A TS is the same as a GG in the sense that both care about getting up in the morning and going to work. Unless the issue discussed is strictly the ability to pass well, I'm growing increasingly wary of "TSs" whose focus is looks and appearance (i.e. being feminine) as it sounds like crossdresser talk to me. It reminds me of the endless times I'm in a bar that has a lot of so-called TSs and I'm always being told how I have "no makeup on" despite that I have a pretty standard amount yet GGs will be in the same bar with absolutely no makeup and nothing would be said to them. Or why I shouldn't drink beer because that isn't girly enough. So I can't understand why someone would be concerned if a TS has hairy armpits and I equally can't understand why a TS would want to be perceived as a "->-bleeped-<-" instead of just a woman.

I have to say that statements such as, 'An MTF TS is simply a woman born in a man's body, simple,' or, 'If being a TS is about how girly you look, the size of your boobs, about "being trans" and comparing yourself to other "->-bleeped-<-s" then you are not a TS but a crossdresser' make me feel pretty uncomfortable.

I don't think that any of us have the right to tell another person how she should or should not express her gender. There is no right or wrong way to be transsexual, any more than there's a right or wrong way to be male or female.

Some people define themselves very clearly as women who happen to have been born with male bodies, others may feel that their gender is more ambiguous, or that they are proud to define themselves as 'trans' ... I have spent my entire life wrestling with my own gender definition. I am very clearly built like a man physically, have many male traits and have no trouble at all 'passing' successfully as a man in virtually all but the most intimate circumstances. So I could not honestly claim to be a woman, as I am. Yet I have felt all my life that I would be more comfortable and natural living as a woman and I have all the medical/psychiatric clearance I need to transition, provided by eminent specialists who have known and treated me for years.

I am very definitely not a ->-bleeped-<-: I am frustrated rather than aroused by wearing women's clothing because it simply underlines that I still have a male rather than female body. But when or if I transition, I will certainly want to dress as nicely as possible, look my best and, yes, shave my armpits. But this is a cultural thing as much as a gender one. Many French women would traditionally have been aghast at the idea of shaving their armpits, since they believe that the scent of a female armpit contains pheremones that arouse their men and they'd rather have great sex than smooth pits.

My point is, we should live and let live ... the outside world gives us all enough sh*t to deal with without adding to it amongst ourselves.

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K8

I want to second Carlita's response.

1) See rule 10 of Susan's Terms of service:

Rule10. Bashing or flaming of any individuals or groups is not acceptable behavior on this web site and will not be tolerated in the slightest for any reason.  This includes but is not limited to:


  • Advocating the separation or exclusion of one or more group from under the Transgender umbrella term
  • Suggesting or claiming that one segment or sub-segment of our community is more legitimate, deserving, or more real than any others

In other words, it is not for any of us to say who is and who is not transsexual, transgendered, etc.

2) Shaving armpits is a cultural thing.  As Carlita pointed out, many women in the world don't shave their armpits and may even think naked armpits are gross.  I had my armpits lasered so that they are hairless because that is what I like.  My 36 year-old daughter has never shaved her armpits as far as I know and has no trouble attracting men (her preference).  To each her own.

3) The comment about liking being a TS may be a throwaway line – she just didn't want to discuss her armpits.  Or she may have found her comfort zone being openly TS for now.  I don't think that we should criticize another for coping with her gender issues as she sees fit.

- Kate
Life is a pilgrimage.
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iris1469

Well I for one was not saying that any one group or segment of people are better/worse than any other. And I posted because it confused me, and I was hoping for a clearer understanding. ONe reason i didnt and still dont understand was when she said she likes being a transexual, because I have always considered myself to be transgender,,,thats all
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Jillieann Rose

I don't like being a transsexual or even transgender but I am one too.
And will have to live with it until I get this body fixed or I die trying.
But I don't want to share this with the world either.
No offense but I really don't understand why anyone would WANT to be in the wrong body for there gender and be STRUGGLE to fix it.
Jillieann
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