Hips before and after HRT: ideas please?

[alyssa24]

:)Hello everyone.  I'm 24 and planning to start transitioning with HRT quite soon, and probably will undergo SRS before I'm 30.  I'd like to know if it would be okay for me to expect to gain feminine / wide hips once I start HRT.  Right now, I've a 34 inch breast base (the size of the bra band usually), and 36/35 inch measurement for the bums.  Practically no hips or waist to hip difference.  Other people who've already transitioned around my age or not please give me your stats.  For example, you could help me with your pre-HRT and post-HRT shoulder-waist-hip-butt measurements.  Would it be possible to end up with an hourglass figure with 24 inches on the waist and 35/36 inches on the butts?  Also, let me know if the 12 inch difference between the waist and the butt is actually supposed to be the difference between my waist and the hips (not the butts, which are 1/2 inches below the hips).  Thanks for your help :-)

[Elsa.G]

Honestly it really depends on how good the hrt works, it works differently for people. Also you have to consider the fact that by age 24 you most likely already have a male type skeleton, women also have wider pelvises which is why women have wider hips than males. For females the wider hips also come more with pelvis and skeleton stucture than just simply fat deposits. Women have wider pelvises to allow a baby to pass through the birth canal. I will say with honesty that a hourglass figure might be not be achieved by hrt or naturally, Its hard for mtf's to even achieve a pear shaped body. Consider as well your ribcage for that matter, females have differences in the rib cage which for the most part gives a smaller waist than males. As i've said before hrt will probably have different results for everyone, just remember taking more hormones than what is prescribed wont make any difference but it might make you sick so just take the hrt your recommended and hope for good results, but like i tell other mtf's dont too high expectations. Good luck.

[pheonix]

:)Hello everyone.  I'm 24 and planning to start transitioning with HRT quite soon, and probably will undergo SRS before I'm 30.  I'd like to know if it would be okay for me to expect to gain feminine / wide hips once I start HRT.  Right now, I've a 34 inch breast base (the size of the bra band usually), and 36/35 inch measurement for the bums.  Practically no hips or waist to hip difference.  Other people who've already transitioned around my age or not please give me your stats.  For example, you could help me with your pre-HRT and post-HRT shoulder-waist-hip-butt measurements.  Would it be possible to end up with an hourglass figure with 24 inches on the waist and 35/36 inches on the butts?  Also, let me know if the 12 inch difference between the waist and the butt is actually supposed to be the difference between my waist and the hips (not the butts, which are 1/2 inches below the hips).  Thanks for your help :-)

If you're basing your decision on whether to transition or not on your hips, I'd suggest assuming it won't have that effect on you.

The 20s and 30 somethings I know who have transitioned have had gotten some padding on their hips but it is only fat distribution.  Your bones are likely not in the right position or width to gain cis-female hips.  Similarly, you likely have the extra rib which males have which also affects your attainment of the "perfect" waistline.

For most trans-women the hourglass shape will never happen.  Accept that.  And if by some miracle you get atypical results be grateful you got them.  Mentally you'll be better off if you can internalize this reality.

[rejennyrated]

In THEORY epiphesal closure takes place at around the age of 16 to 18 and after that no widening is possible.

In practice however I think, from my own experience either the closure does not always occur so young and/or may take place a little slower in some of us.

My own experience of HRT in my early twenties was that despite the theory I did get a modest amount of hip widening, but admittedly marked less than the normal amount for a genetic woman. One caution though... I may be an exception because, although I did not know it at the time, I have subsequently discovered that I was PAIS grade 2 intersex so that may have changed the result.

In short it is possible, but on the whole it is, as others have said, better to assume that it isn't going to happen and then be pleasantly surprised.

[lilacwoman]

I'm about 42/30/39 but don't have the hourglass from the front when naked but do have more like it when dressed.  maybe the way skirts fit to my natural waist?
Plus I hate loose tops that hang low over my bum and prefer tighter shorter fits.
I can see and feel plumpness around my ribs and waist but my present lifestyle doesn't seem to let me get any smaller or lighter.

[AnitaLife]

I started hormones around age 20, and had my GRS at 24, and i'm 39 now. My weight has fluctuated pretty wildly in those years (i'm a horribly yo-yo dieter; i've been 30 lbs lighter than I am now, as well as almost 20 lbs heavier).  I can honestly say, at any weight, that i've never gotten hips  If I have, it's probably been an inch at most.  It's been very frustrating, but i've become the master at dressing for my body shape.  But I wonder if genetics plays a big part of it, because i'm half Asian and both my Asian mother and sister don't have noticeable hips either.  Of course, they still have feminine bodies though, mainly because they're both very petite and don't have the somewhat masculine upper body that I have. 

Only recently have I started to research options to surgically alter my hips. The main options are liposuction/fat grafting (alot of surgeons do this in the U.S.), PMMA injections, and implants.
With liposuction and fat grafting, it seems to be the safest process, but i think there's a chance of reabsorption of the fat cells thus it might not be a long-term process, plus you need to have enough fat already for them to suck out and reinsert. From my research, it's also the most expensive process. Dr. Constantino Mendieta in Miami is supposedly the best in the U.S. for this http://www.buttsbymendieta.com.
PMMA is an injectable substance (I don't really know much about it, although wikipedia has a pretty good page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poly%28methyl_methacrylate%29). It's used for cosmetic purposes in the U.S. in small amounts, but not for large areas, thus you usually have to travel outside the U.S. to have it done. Alot of people go to Tijuana, Mexico to do it, as it's right over the border. It's also relatively cheap, but i've heard you need several sessions for satisfactory results.
As far as hip implants go, until now there was only one surgeon in the whole world that I'd heard of that did it, and he was in Spain. Now there's a surgeon in the U.S. who does them, but I know nothing about his process (here's his website and before/after pictures: http://www.bodyimplants.com/hip-implant-photos.html).

Sorry for the thread derail, just thought i'd put it all out there 

[Sadie]

Many genetic women have shoulders wider than their hips.  We would all love the hourglass but so would a lot of genetic women too.   

[lilacwoman]

that wiki link to PMMA is interesting but I'll do without any of that stuff in me apart from dentures - pre-seatbelts crash is bad for teeth.

[alyssa24]

AnitaLife, I read in a cosmetic surgeon's clinic's site that the injectable substance could flow down to other parts of the body.  If it's true, it would make implants and the fluid injections riskier than lipsuction.  But even then I think it's worth taking the risk.

[lilacwoman]

can anyone tell me what happens with the injectables if the person bumps into something or lies too long in one position? Or for that matter if someone squashes themself into tight clothes and get a deep crease in their skin.
Does it all stay is sort of a pocket in the other flesh, muscle or fat and be unable to move about
I'm happy with my boob implants as they are trapped under the pectoral muscle that looks like a natural bra to keep them in place.

[Jalene E.]

Before I started hrt I did some research on what to expect as far as body changes. As you alyssa24 and most other mtf I would love to have that hour glass figure but I knew I would not because males have different bone structure and shorter torsos than genetic woman. Genetic woman have a greater distance between the last rib and the top of the pelvic bone. Plus as others have wrote hips naturally widden on gg for child birth.

I have been on hrt for just over a year and I am extremely happy with my body thus far. Since I started hrt I lost 30 pounds of muscle mass. I'm 5'6" and 140 lbs and thankfully I have small bone structure so I have a body that looks quite female even though I do not have an hour glass shape. When I first started hrt I worn size 12 jeans and now I'm down to 7 or 8. I buy tops that are cut that make it look as though you do have an hour glass figure. We are all different so its so hard to say how your bod will change but how ever it does don't let it get you down we deal with enough without adding trouble ourselves.