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Started by danivamp3435, August 19, 2005, 04:25:27 PM

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danivamp3435

well boys and girls i just found out due to an ultrasound that i am intersexed. i have the outward stuff of a man but the inward stuff of a woman go figure hehe..turns out i have a fully functional and healthy uterus and one ovary. and since i have been taking spironolactone and after having had my hormone and other levels checked i am perfectly healthy, and my mone levels are to that of a natal female with out taking estrogen. guess my system just needed a kick in the butt hehe. well lots of love
Christy
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Cassandra

So does this mean if you get the plumbing inverted and connected into the passageways you can get pregnant? Just curious.

Cassie
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beth

i can see how the shock would be confusing, but that is wonderful news Christy!  it must feel great to know your body is correct inside. i know i would love news like that.



beth
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Alison

Wow christy!!!  I really am wondering if you couldn't have a pregnancy with the correct hormones...

What wonderful news, im sure! :)
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Sarra

Pregnancy might not be possible. Healthy or not, if it isn't fully developed, I don't think pregnancy would be advisable to attempt.

If you aren't bleeding monthly, then you aren't naturally furtile, but that may change. If you start experiencing cramps on a monthly basis, tell your Urologist immediatly. People on other forums who are similar to you have had ruptures, or worse, because they bled with nowhere for the blood to go.
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stephanie_craxford

Quote from: danivamp3435 on August 19, 2005, 04:25:27 PM
well boys and girls i just found out due to an ultrasound that i am intersexed. i have the outward stuff of a man but the inward stuff of a woman go figure hehe..turns out i have a fully functional and healthy uterus and one ovary. and since i have been taking spironolactone and after having had my hormone and other levels checked i am perfectly healthy, and my mone levels are to that of a natal female with out taking estrogen. guess my system just needed a kick in the butt hehe. well lots of love
Christy

Hello Christy,

That is such good news, I'm really happy for you, I imagine you must be overjoyed.  I hope that kick in the butt didn't hurt too much  :)  So what on the horizon for you next, has this revelation changed anything for you?  I know that if I found myself in your situation, it would really change my plans.  I would probably want to speed things up, but that's me.   :)

Keep us posted, take care,

Steph
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danivamp3435

ok , heres the skinny. i have been cramping ever since ive started my "first" puberty, and according the the gyno i talked to she said that i have been bleeding every month but my body has absorbed the blood back into my ystem and that my iron count in my body must be unusually high for 3 days out of my cycle. i definately want to speed things up now as soon as i can. my uterus and ovary are 90% matured and pregnancy is possable, and from what she told me safe as well. to be a little moreexplanatory with what i hve is this. uterus, ovary, falopian tube, curvix, and a birthcanal.(that one i can feel between my "sac" and anus) when i started my first puberty, i started to grow breasts until my testosterone caught up. then they went away. i reall didnt know why that happened but it is until now after i got the information on my body that i needed..now that i think about it, i do have a really odd scr in that area. i wonder if my mother wasnt told about my girl stuff and the doctors just "closed it up" argh oh well ill find out when i get my grs :) yey happy times.
love you all and take care.


Christy
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Sarra

Interesting... I've talked to at least one other person with similar anatomy, who have ruptures due to the lack of available volume for blood compared to actual menstrual volume. Consider yourself lucky. ;) Then again, you have more volume as the other people I've talked to don't have anything south of the cervix.

You're going to ahve to go in for Pap smears. :p That might be... Interesting...
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Cassandra

Sounds like you got a lot of really good news Christy. I'm really happy for you, and a little jealous. Good luck on getting everything fixed the way it was ment to be.

Cassie
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danivamp3435

well the strange part is this. i am getting much more support from my family now that modern science has revealed to me that i have what i have and that when i was in the womb i had a sister (possibly) and she didnt survive and i got all her reproductive organs and my male organs dont work because of it :) yay....well talk to you later girls
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Shelley

Hi Christy,

Great news, I wonder if the increased support from your family is because generally we find it easier to deal with medical issues than with what we perceive as mental health issues.

Shelley
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Mario

Christy,

     That is a trip to me. I myself was born female but really feel male, always have. I lived as a male for 8 years but then tried to be "normal" for other people and have had 4 kids and married a guy now only to get a divorce and live some other way since we can not change who we are on the inside. I know I am more male than female even though I have givin birth. I would like to know of some tests that maybe could verify this? Can you help?
                                              Thanks,
                                                       Mario
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taylor

Hi All,

I am going to jump in here, although I am new to this site. I am by far not knew to all of this. Transitioned 15 yrs ago and consider myself a intersexed trans person. Bottom line we all transition if we alter whatever was assigned at birth for whatever reason, doctors ignorance, or well if you think about it, doctors ignorance. I am a believer that no one should be assigned a sex until the age of 5 if we have to do it. Because until about the age of language development,, there is no way to tell what we are, because we can't tell anyone what we are. 

Here is where the question comes in can we take a test of some sort to find out

I would like to know of some tests that maybe could verify this? Can you help?

Scientist have been trying to seperate the sexes for hundreds of years, and sense the 1700's no one method has been found to work consistently There are just too many variables.

The other thing is to get your answer through a scientific test, you have to believe that sex is something that we can isolate and define by specific factors that have failed so many people so many times.  Sex is determined where?

Mario, you can have a chromosome test done to see if you are xy, xx, xxy, etc. but all that is going to really do is tell you what your chromosomes are, but is it really going to tell you what "sex" you are?  I know plenty of people that consider themselves "Male" with female chromosomes, and I know others that have such a string of chromosomes that it is impossible to know what their sex is.

Having a uterus, does not make a woman. I had a uterus and a testicle, does that make me a woman or a man?  There are traditionally defined women that cannot have babies does that make them less of a woman?  See what I mean?  And in history it is documented "males" having babies on battle fields, and I do not mean what we consider women prosing as males back in history. I mean regular males that had external openings that had gone un detected. Today we surgical "Fix" / " Butcher , babies born with these openings and assign a sex to them.

For the past nine years I have traveled this country and done extensive research on this topic and I never sease to be amazed at how our own community just buys into what the "experts" want to tell us about who and what we are, as people collectively.

If a person really wants to know what their scientific make up is, that is one thing, but to find out what your sex is.... I personally say, ask yourself where you believe you fall on that spectrum!

I hope no one minds my butting in here and writing. I just wanted to share, and I have enjoyed reading through some threads today.  This is truly a great site!  The support here for eachother is just really cool to see.

By the way, personally I define and live my life as a male, a father, brother, and husband. But what I am is defined by me,, no longer the medical world. I wish we could all share in that freedom, there is progress, but much more needed.

Thanks for being here Susans.org this is just great support offered that is seldom found!

Taylor
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taylor

Hi M Girl,

It would be a wonderful world, if in fact the doctors ( medical community) really gave parents the right to make educated choices for babies in these positions. However in most all cases that is never what happens. There is a movement currently going on to stop the "butchering" of babies with IS conditions. And then we also have the issues of biolgical differences that are not even observed at birth but show up later in life, what about these children, you know?

I am trying to figure out what you mean when you say that it is easier to make choices after your children are born?  I have personally not met anyone that put off transitioning,, be they transsexual, ( as currently defined) or ( intersexed).  So I am wondering if you would explain what you mean by this?  Hope you don't mind me asking, I am just wondering about it. I just never thought of the connection there. 

Well hope your having a good weekend!

Peace,
Taylor
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taylor

Ohhh now I get  ;D  that was confusing me.  Yea I am glad I did not have to face that issue with a child either. I have worked with children and their families that have had to deal with it, and it is a real hard road to hoe.

Well thanks for clearing up my confusion!

Peace,
Taylor
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Chaunte

Taylor,

Simple genetics isn't going to say very much.

If I recall correctly, there are roughly a thousand lines of genetic code that start the transition from female to male.  As a reminder, all of us start as female and then morph into male.

During the second stage of meiosis, the chromosome strands are very fragile.  It is very easy to mix and match genes.  THis is what has allowed Homo-sapien Sapines to evolve in a radically changing world for the past 3+ million years.

Consider what could happen if some of this genetic code that detemins our gender crosses over, but not all of it.  It is quite possible that both sets of sex organs develope, just like two of our sisters here have shared.  I would postulate that, depending on what DNA strands are rearranged, the majority of the transgender and homosexual community could be explaned and understood.

Yes, that would make us genetic mutations.  But that is how life works!  Multicellular life itself is a result of genetic mutations.  And, to be honest, I really like having an explaination for being transgendered. 

I'll take my tie-dyed labcoat and steel-toed pumps off now....

Chaunte
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taylor

Chaunte,

Exactly my point  There is no test to tell you what you are.
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Leela Rani

I do not know how intersexed persons feel when they happen to know they are. I think parents should not impose their choice of sex on the offspring. They should let them grow and when they are in a position to know what they are they should be what they feel they are.

Leela
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Shelley

Sounds very reasonable to me Leela. Unfortunately not all decisions made by people are reasonable.

Shelley
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taylor

In situations where a child is born with Ambigous genitals, the parent is often not the one that chooses the assigned sex of the child. It is the team of doctors. The doctors decide what sex the child is going to "be", and they pressure the parents, and I do mean pressure, to have genital surgeries done.  Many parents are starting to find information allowing them to make their own stand in these situations but it is a constant fight against the figures of authority.

This is the only known surgerical practice that is not medically needed and is not based on a life threatening situation but instead is being done due to the social threat.  Until recently parents of these children had no support, education or anything to help them stand against what was being done to their child. Yes some parents would still opt for surgery to their children, but many would not!  There is a movement going on to give the parents correct information and support them while the doctors are also now being re educated.

I just wanted to post this incase some of you were interested in knowing more of the picture.

Taylor
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